Re: Bears Offseason Thread

[SpongeWorthy]

I don't know anything about him.

 

When we signed Pisa T. from the Rams last year I was excited by what I saw in preseason and then he lasted maybe one series into the Packers game.

[David]

He's good enough that they franchised him in 09.

 

From his wiki

 

St. Louis Rams

 

Oshiomogho was selected by the St. Louis Rams in the third round (66th overall) in the 2005 NFL Draft. On July 28, 2005 Atogwe to a three-year $1.6 million contract with the Rams.[4]

 

In his rookie year he played in 12 games, finishing the year with 11 tackles, one sacks, an interception, and a fumble recovery. The following season, he finished the campaign with 72 tackles and three interceptions and forced five fumbles. In the 2007 season, Atogwe had a team and NFC-high 8 interceptions along with 75 tackles and one touchdown and forced two fumbles. On April 22, 2008, the Rams tendered Atogwe a one-year deal for $2.017 million which he signed to remain with the club. [5] Atogwe is one of the rising players in the NFL at the free safety position and in the 2008 season he recorded 5 interceptions to lead the Rams once again. He also recorded 83 tackles and forced six fumbles.

 

On February 19, 2009, the Rams used their franchise tag on Atogwe. The tag is the non-exclusive franchise which allows other teams to negotiate with Atogwe but if any signed him that team has to give the Rams two first-round picks as compensation and as part of the designation Atogwe will receive a one-year tender of $6.342 million [6]

 

On July 15, 2009 the Rams signed Atogwe to a one-year, $6.342 million contract.[7]

 

On December 9, Atogwe was placed on Injured Reserve due to a dislocated right shoulder.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Antrell Rolle is my top choice. I'd rather stay away from Peppers, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

[GeoSoto420]

Antrell Rolle is my top choice. I'd rather stay away from Peppers, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Rolle and Chester Taylor would be a good offseason IMO and I'm a guy that always wants to go after the big names! I'm scared Peppers will come in and be what Ben Wallace was to the Bulls. Which means he won't give a s*** once he gets his paycheck.

[Magnetic Curses]

Antrell Rolle is my top choice. I'd rather stay away from Peppers, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Rolle and Chester Taylor would be a good offseason IMO and I'm a guy that always wants to go after the big names! I'm scared Peppers will come in and be what Ben Wallace was to the Bulls. Which means he won't give a s*** once he gets his paycheck.

 

the two situations are way different, wallace wasn't worth anything befor ehe got his pyacheck and was nowhere close to a diminant player at his position.

[GeoSoto420]

Antrell Rolle is my top choice. I'd rather stay away from Peppers, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Rolle and Chester Taylor would be a good offseason IMO and I'm a guy that always wants to go after the big names! I'm scared Peppers will come in and be what Ben Wallace was to the Bulls. Which means he won't give a s*** once he gets his paycheck.

 

the two situations are way different, wallace wasn't worth anything befor ehe got his pyacheck and was nowhere close to a diminant player at his position.

I disagree. Wallace was a beast before he got his contract. He was one of the main reasons why the Pistons won that championship. I compare both of them because they were both around 30 when their contract was up and both probably on the downslide of their careers.

[Magnetic Curses]

Antrell Rolle is my top choice. I'd rather stay away from Peppers, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Rolle and Chester Taylor would be a good offseason IMO and I'm a guy that always wants to go after the big names! I'm scared Peppers will come in and be what Ben Wallace was to the Bulls. Which means he won't give a s*** once he gets his paycheck.

 

the two situations are way different, wallace wasn't worth anything befor ehe got his pyacheck and was nowhere close to a diminant player at his position.

I disagree. Wallace was a beast before he got his contract. He was one of the main reasons why the Pistons won that championship. I compare both of them because they were both around 30 when their contract was up and both probably on the downslide of their careers.

 

wallace was 2 years removed from that pistons championship, and averaged 7 and 11 the year before the deal as opposed to 6 and 11 the year after. defensively, he wasn't much diiferent while peppers is still performing at a high level in terms of his position.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

[Magnetic Curses]

no doubt.

 

rolle negotiations heating up.

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/free-agent-rolle-could-find-new-home-quickly.html

[SpongeWorthy]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

 

Is it? Maybe for a running back with a lot of carries on the odometer.

 

30 should still be right in the prime of many guys careers.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't know what to think because I've never been so down on the Bears and I don't know if spending like crazy makes it better or worse.

[WrigleyField 22]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

 

Is it? Maybe for a running back with a lot of carries on the odometer.

 

30 should still be right in the prime of many guys careers.

For other sports. Football prime is 26-30 for 80% of the league. Maybe even younger than that.

[Old Style]

Rolle turned down a 6-year offer from the Cardinals? Wow. How old is he?

[dew1679666265]

National Football Post has learned that Burleson is on the radar of the following teams: the Kansas City Chiefs, Chicago Bears, Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

 

Thought this might be of interest.

[Guest]

@ProFootballFocus RT @espn_nfcnblog: Bears want Rolle - http://tinyurl.com/yzk9lea - They already have him, his name's Danieal Manning.

[SpongeWorthy]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

 

Is it? Maybe for a running back with a lot of carries on the odometer.

 

30 should still be right in the prime of many guys careers.

For other sports. Football prime is 26-30 for 80% of the league. Maybe even younger than that.

 

I'm really not so sure that's true for non-running backs without significant injury histories.

 

I'm not saying most players are at the absolute apex of their careers at 30 but most guys that are perennial pro bowlers or on a Hall of Fame trajectory have dominant years after 30. Reggie White and Bruce Smith, for example, were dominant until their mid 30s. Strahan too.

[David]

@ProFootballFocus RT @espn_nfcnblog: Bears want Rolle - http://tinyurl.com/yzk9lea - They already have him, his name's Danieal Manning.

 

 

wat

[Guest]

He elaborates:

 

Danieal Manning and Rolle actually frighteningly similar. Highly athletic, underachieving in coverage, CB/S tweeners

 

Difference is Rolle was the high draft pick and hit the FA market at right time. Rolle allowed 63.4% of passes thrown at him complete in '09

 

And people think the Cromarties can't tackle: Antrel Rolle missed one in every 4.4 tackles he attempted solo last year.

[SpongeWorthy]

Well I'm no expert on the Cardinals but it seems like their pass D was awfully sieve like considering everyone says Rolle and Wilson are two of the best safeties in the game.

[Magnetic Curses]

i'm hearing the rolle signing will be confirmed within the hour. but i have no link.

[Guest]

Any interest?

 

I'd rather have Rolle but Atogwe would be a nice consolation prize.

[Magnetic Curses]

zach zaidman just tweeted that the redskins aren't in the running for peppers.

[WrigleyField 22]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

 

Is it? Maybe for a running back with a lot of carries on the odometer.

 

30 should still be right in the prime of many guys careers.

For other sports. Football prime is 26-30 for 80% of the league. Maybe even younger than that.

 

I'm really not so sure that's true for non-running backs without significant injury histories.

 

I'm not saying most players are at the absolute apex of their careers at 30 but most guys that are perennial pro bowlers or on a Hall of Fame trajectory have dominant years after 30. Reggie White and Bruce Smith, for example, were dominant until their mid 30s. Strahan too.

But those type of guys make up a pretty small majority of players. No telling if you'll get a guy past his prime, or the small percentage that stays dominant.

[RedFlash]

zach zaidman just tweeted that the redskins aren't in the running for peppers.

 

Did someone bound and gagged Dan Snyder or something?

[SpongeWorthy]

Nonetheless, committing tons of money to 30-year-old football players who aren't QBs is risky, risky business.

 

Is it? Maybe for a running back with a lot of carries on the odometer.

 

30 should still be right in the prime of many guys careers.

For other sports. Football prime is 26-30 for 80% of the league. Maybe even younger than that.

 

I'm really not so sure that's true for non-running backs without significant injury histories.

 

I'm not saying most players are at the absolute apex of their careers at 30 but most guys that are perennial pro bowlers or on a Hall of Fame trajectory have dominant years after 30. Reggie White and Bruce Smith, for example, were dominant until their mid 30s. Strahan too.

But those type of guys make up a pretty small majority of players. No telling if you'll get a guy past his prime, or the small percentage that stays dominant.

 

Well the percentage of players who dominate at any point in their careers is small. In the NFL it's very easy to get a younger/cheaper alternative because most of the money isn't guaranteed.

 

If a guy is great at 30 I wouldn't be deathly afraid that you couldn't get 3 or 4 good to great years out of him.