Re: Bears Offseason Thread

[YearofDaCubs]

Clements can't just leave and sign with us. It doesn't work that way. Who even knows if he wants the responsibility of being a OC, especially for the Bears? I didn't expect the Packers to grant permission to the Bears anyway, just not happening.

 

wrong.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/11/25/1173920/rules-on-hiring-nfl-coaches

No, you are wrong. Going from a QB Coach to an OC is considered a lateral move in the NFL. NFL coaches have two categories. 1. Head Coach, 2. Assistant coaches.

 

http://www.insidefootball.com/antitamperingpolicy.pdf

[jersey cubs fan]

Clements can't just leave and sign with us. It doesn't work that way. Who even knows if he wants the responsibility of being a OC, especially for the Bears? I didn't expect the Packers to grant permission to the Bears anyway, just not happening.

 

wrong.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/11/25/1173920/rules-on-hiring-nfl-coaches

No, you are wrong. Going from a QB Coach to an OC is considered a lateral move in the NFL. NFL coaches have two categories. 1. Head Coach, 2. Assistant coaches.

 

http://www.insidefootball.com/antitamperingpolicy.pdf

 

That just means they aren't obligated to let him talk to them and go for nothing. But if he wants out and wants the job, it can happen, with repercussions.

[Magnetic Curses]

Clements can't just leave and sign with us. It doesn't work that way. Who even knows if he wants the responsibility of being a OC, especially for the Bears? I didn't expect the Packers to grant permission to the Bears anyway, just not happening.

 

wrong.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/11/25/1173920/rules-on-hiring-nfl-coaches

No, you are wrong. Going from a QB Coach to an OC is considered a lateral move in the NFL. NFL coaches have two categories. 1. Head Coach, 2. Assistant coaches.

 

http://www.insidefootball.com/antitamperingpolicy.pdf

 

it doesn't say what the penalties are for it. i'd imagine there are penalties, but you can't simply restrict a guy the opportunity to work where he wishes to work.

[Guest]

Clements can't just leave and sign with us. It doesn't work that way. Who even knows if he wants the responsibility of being a OC, especially for the Bears? I didn't expect the Packers to grant permission to the Bears anyway, just not happening.

 

wrong.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/11/25/1173920/rules-on-hiring-nfl-coaches

No, you are wrong. Going from a QB Coach to an OC is considered a lateral move in the NFL. NFL coaches have two categories. 1. Head Coach, 2. Assistant coaches.

 

http://www.insidefootball.com/antitamperingpolicy.pdf

 

That just means they aren't obligated to let him talk to them and go for nothing. But if he wants out and wants the job, it can happen, with repercussions.

I believe that depends upon the nature of the contract he signed, the statutes of the states involved and the complicating legal status of sports franchises.

 

If it is anything like the high tech industry, the current employer could file an injunction to prevent employment if he has a no-compete clause in his contract. Unless he was interviewing with Dallas or Houston, of course. Texas is pretty notorious for pretty much disregarding non-competes in high tech, at least.

[RedFlash]

I personally think the Packers refused the Bears permission simply because they are the Bears. If it were a team outside of the NFC North, then I think they would at least let the man interview with said team, but because this is the Bears they weren't going to help their rivals. I mean look at Aaron Rodgers, do you think the Packers want to see Clements do to Cutler what he has done to Rodgers? That is more the enough reason to keep the Bears away from Clements.

 

With that said, this really isn't the big of deal.

[WrigleyField 22]

I personally think the Packers refused the Bears permission simply because they are the Bears. If it were a team outside of the NFC North, then I think they would at least let the man interview with said team, but because this is the Bears they weren't going to help their rivals. I mean look at Aaron Rodgers, do you think the Packers want to see Clements do to Cutler what he has done to Rodgers? That is more the enough reason to keep the Bears away from Clements.

 

With that said, this really isn't the big of deal.

I highly suspect this to be the case as well.

[Soul]

Clements can't just leave and sign with us. It doesn't work that way. Who even knows if he wants the responsibility of being a OC, especially for the Bears? I didn't expect the Packers to grant permission to the Bears anyway, just not happening.

 

wrong.

 

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/11/25/1173920/rules-on-hiring-nfl-coaches

No, you are wrong. Going from a QB Coach to an OC is considered a lateral move in the NFL. NFL coaches have two categories. 1. Head Coach, 2. Assistant coaches.

 

http://www.insidefootball.com/antitamperingpolicy.pdf

 

That just means they aren't obligated to let him talk to them and go for nothing. But if he wants out and wants the job, it can happen, with repercussions.

I believe that depends upon the nature of the contract he signed, the statutes of the states involved and the complicating legal status of sports franchises.

 

If it is anything like the high tech industry, the current employer could file an injunction to prevent employment if he has a no-compete clause in his contract. Unless he was interviewing with Dallas or Houston, of course. Texas is pretty notorious for pretty much disregarding non-competes in high tech, at least.

 

My understanding is that it is very difficult to enforce a non-compete, pretty much nation wide.

 

But anyway, this is all very hypothetical. The guy isn't going to come to the Bears. I was just pointing out that a current employer saying "no" intially doesn't need to be the end of the story, more or less. I've known colleagues who got the big "no" from our CEO at first, and so they negotiated, worked on it, and eventually it was OK.

[Guest]

perhaps one of our lawyers could clarify the point. :)

[Flames24Rulz]

I personally think the Packers refused the Bears permission simply because they are the Bears. If it were a team outside of the NFC North, then I think they would at least let the man interview with said team, but because this is the Bears they weren't going to help their rivals. I mean look at Aaron Rodgers, do you think the Packers want to see Clements do to Cutler what he has done to Rodgers? That is more the enough reason to keep the Bears away from Clements.

 

With that said, this really isn't the big of deal.

I highly suspect this to be the case as well.

 

Bingo.

 

I guarantee that this wouldn't have happened if a team like the Raiders or Browns were interested in him.

[YearofDaCubs]

Ken Zampese has interviewed for the job as OC. This guys resume is actually very impressive.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-13-bears-chicago-jan13,0,5081029.story

[JonJayCutler]

I personally think the Packers refused the Bears permission simply because they are the Bears. If it were a team outside of the NFC North, then I think they would at least let the man interview with said team, but because this is the Bears they weren't going to help their rivals. I mean look at Aaron Rodgers, do you think the Packers want to see Clements do to Cutler what he has done to Rodgers? That is more the enough reason to keep the Bears away from Clements.

 

With that said, this really isn't the big of deal.

I highly suspect this to be the case as well.

 

After a heart-breaking loss, I wouldn't be in the mood to let other teams interview my coaches either.

Edited January 13, 2010 by CubsBearsMagic

[DivineBovine]

Ken Zampese has interviewed for the job as OC. This guys resume is actually very impressive.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-13-bears-chicago-jan13,0,5081029.story

 

 

 

It seems as if the Bears keep looking to Quarterbacks coaches. Another QB coach who has had success with other NFL QB's. I'm certainly no expert on football, and probably don't know what being a "QB coach" entails. But I sure hope that if they actually bring one of these "QB coaches", he can do more than teach Cutler how to throw a better spiral and have better footwork. I sure hope that he can actually design an offensive play, call it, and coach and offensive line.

[rawaction]

Ken Zampese has interviewed for the job as OC. This guys resume is actually very impressive.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-13-bears-chicago-jan13,0,5081029.story

 

 

 

It seems as if the Bears keep looking to Quarterbacks coaches. Another QB coach who has had success with other NFL QB's. I'm certainly no expert on football, and probably don't know what being a "QB coach" entails. But I sure hope that if they actually bring one of these "QB coaches", he can do more than teach Cutler how to throw a better spiral and have better footwork. I sure hope that he can actually design an offensive play, call it, and coach and offensive line.

 

NFL coaches spend so much time together. A QB coach works very closely with the OC. Just by osmosis a QB coach should be able to design and call plays.

[Soul]

Ken Zampese has interviewed for the job as OC. This guys resume is actually very impressive.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-13-bears-chicago-jan13,0,5081029.story

 

 

 

It seems as if the Bears keep looking to Quarterbacks coaches. Another QB coach who has had success with other NFL QB's. I'm certainly no expert on football, and probably don't know what being a "QB coach" entails. But I sure hope that if they actually bring one of these "QB coaches", he can do more than teach Cutler how to throw a better spiral and have better footwork. I sure hope that he can actually design an offensive play, call it, and coach and offensive line.

 

NFL coaches spend so much time together. A QB coach works very closely with the OC. Just by osmosis a QB coach should be able to design and call plays.

 

Probably. I don't have a problem with looking for a good QB coach to promote. We definitely need, and have needed for a long time, and infusion of QB knowledge on the coaching staff. Focusing on that skill set seems OK to me.

[jersey cubs fan]

I personally think the Packers refused the Bears permission simply because they are the Bears. If it were a team outside of the NFC North, then I think they would at least let the man interview with said team, but because this is the Bears they weren't going to help their rivals. I mean look at Aaron Rodgers, do you think the Packers want to see Clements do to Cutler what he has done to Rodgers? That is more the enough reason to keep the Bears away from Clements.

 

With that said, this really isn't the big of deal.

I highly suspect this to be the case as well.

 

Bingo.

 

I guarantee that this wouldn't have happened if a team like the Raiders or Browns were interested in him.

 

At the risk of being a jerk:

 

 

ummmm, no [expletive] sherlock. It's pretty obvious it's because it's a division foe.

[jersey cubs fan]

If the Bears are going to sign a position coach as OC, my first choice would be a QB coach. Some teams, like the Bears, use it to employ somebody that doesn't bring much to the table, but many QB coaches are vital to the development of the QB and the implemenation of the passing game, if not the entire offense.

 

That said, without knowing anything about the guy other than he is a coach's son, the Bengals QB coach doesn't scream out to me as a guy who has done a great job. Carson Palmer entered the league as one of the most polished high caliber 1st rounders, started fast and looked to be great, and has since plateaued into a good, but not steller QB. He was awful in the playoff game, his completion percentage has gone down, as has his touchdowns, and he's worked with a pretty talented group of receivers out there. At the very least, he hasn't improved.

 

Although I would say he sort of fits the profile in general of what I hope they get, I hope he would be able to bring in a strong line and QB coach as well.

[Guest]

perhaps one of our lawyers could clarify the point. :)

 

I signed a no compete agreement in the industry I'm in. It really doesn't hold much weight, especially in right to work states like Florida. Actually, if I was in Florida, my no compete agreement would be worth less than the paper it is written on. I don't believe California is a right to work state, so it's worth more here than it is there. How much, I'm not sure. I'm not willing to give it a test drive. :ninja:

 

I have yet to see my franchisor go after a former franchisee that tried to start a competing business. However, I've also yet to see one be successful competing against the company I work with after they left the company.

[dew1679666265]

Chaney to Chicago?

 

Lane Kiffin's sudden departure to USC increases the odds Tennessee offensive coordinator/tight ends coach Jim Chaney joins the Bears coaching staff in some capacity. Although the Bears keep in contact with Chaney, it's unknown whether an official interview has been scheduled.

[Soul]

Clayton was just on ESPN 1000. He wasn't very positive about the Bears' chances for finding a good OC who will work well with Cutler. His strong speculation was that Martz isn't a guy who Jay wants to work with.

 

FWIW

[Soul]

Oh, also: Fewell is reportedly now at the top of the Giants' list, meaning we might be back to square one for a DC, too.

[Smack]

Netflix has full games from the 85 season. This is awesome, I'm watching Bears vs. Packers 1985 right now.

[dew1679666265]

Interesting . . .

 

The Chicago Bears continued on their quest to fill out their offensive coaching staff today, meeting with former Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice at Halas Hall, according to Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Interesting . . .

 

The Chicago Bears continued on their quest to fill out their offensive coaching staff today, meeting with former Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice at Halas Hall, according to Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune.

 

 

I hope to god they are only considering him for OL coach

[jersey cubs fan]

Interesting . . .

 

The Chicago Bears continued on their quest to fill out their offensive coaching staff today, meeting with former Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice at Halas Hall, according to Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune.

 

 

I hope to god they are only considering him for OL coach

 

Actually I hope he's more of an assistant TE coach. I think this team needs a real OL coach, and Tice isn't even really that.

[davell]

PFT speculated that it would be a good idea for Lovie to consider the UT job. Mainly because he's certainly on the hotseat as far as Chicago goes......No idea if he'd have any interest in coaching college football or not, but I'd like to see him gone ASAP here anyway and since we didn't fire him, this may actually be a shot at ridding ourselves of him anyway.....