Re: Rosenthal: Multiple teams after Bradley

[BigbadB]

I guess we all kind of figured that there would be interest in Bradley from around the league. Interesting to see that Ricketts has set a limit on the amount of money the Cubs will include in a deal. Indication that payroll won't be going up anytime soon?

 

 

From Ken Rosenthal:

 

Around the Horn

 

Multiple teams are in contact the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley, with one source saying, "You would be shocked at the level of interest."

 

The Cubs remain confident that they can trade Bradley without assuming the vast majority of the $21 million remaining on his contract over the next two years.

 

New owner Tom Ricketts has set a limit for how much money the Cubs will include in a deal, one source says. The Cubs can take back a contract but pay only a fixed amount of cash.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10254444/La-Russa-will-have-options,-if-he-wants-them

[SouthSideRyan]

More importantly, what is BacktoBanks reporting?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

[A-Cal]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

[jersey cubs fan]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

 

It might pissing into the wind, but his ship hasn't sailed. Hendry can spend the entire offseason taking offers, and he doesn't have to accept any of them.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

 

But when your dealing with the remaining 20 mil, I think amends can be made. I mean there arent too many options. If Kosuke were to have been the middle of the order hitter he was supposed to be, he could be in RF and lket Fuld and Reed platoon center. If the Rockies were to trade Hawpe, that would be another option, but they reportedly want to hang on to him now. Bay and Holliday are probably out of our price range. Pat Burrell would be a nightb=mare in right, basically a left handed Jake Fox, so basically Micah Hoffpauir. The other options are the likes of Mike Cameron, Jeremy Hermida, and a few others that would be probable downgrades. I guess this is Hendrys chance to do some actual GM work and not just throw money around.

[jersey cubs fan]

Pat Burrell would be a nightb=mare in right, basically a left handed Jake Fox, so basically Micah Hoffpauir.

 

Pat Burrell is neither left handed nor at all similar to Micah Hoffpauir.

[MSG T]

Pat Burrell would be a nightb=mare in right, basically a left handed Jake Fox, so basically Micah Hoffpauir.

 

Pat Burrell is neither left handed nor at all similar to Micah Hoffpauir.

 

 

Burrell has shown he can hit ML pitching very well, Hoffpauir hasn't.

[erik316wttn]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

 

I don't think that his reputation is beyond repair at this point. Assuming he and Rudy J have a good relationship from his season in Texas (and I have no idea whether they do or not), he can put in work this offseason, and if he has a hot April and keeps his mouth shut, I'm sure he can get the fans back on his side.

 

It's entirely up to him, though. The fans aren't going to come around with an improvement in his production and his attitude.

 

I'd be for keeping Bradley and having him and Kouske 1-2 in the order on Opening Day. They could be deadly tablesetters for Lee and Aram.

[BeerHere]

Bradley is going to be traded. Good riddance. I'll wait to evaluate the return to say whether Hendry did a good job or not, but it's unrealistic to think that he's going to be here opening day.

[erik316wttn]

Bradley is going to be traded. Good riddance. I'll wait to evaluate the return to say whether Hendry did a good job or not, but it's unrealistic to think that he's going to be here opening day.

 

I'm not saying I think he'll be here. I'm saying that if the Cubs choose to mend fences, I don't think that Bradley's standing with the fans or the organization is beyond repair, especially if he produces. Production heals a lot of wounds.

 

I wouldn't trade him just to trade him, though. I'm encouraged that lots of teams are interested, because maybe then we might be able to get a somewhat decent return for him. However, I'm just saying I won't be heartbroken if he's here Opening Day and is serious about having a good season.

 

Does anyone have the combined OBP of Kouske and Bradley for the games in which they batted 1-2?

Edited October 22, 2009 by erik316wttn

[PrimeTime]

How about talking to the Jays and try to get Adam Lind over here??

[SouthSideRyan]

How about talking to the Jays and try to get Adam Lind over here??

 

If you don't mind taking Vernon Wells with him.

[dew1679666265]

Does anyone have the combined OBP of Kouske and Bradley for the games in which they batted 1-2?

 

Not sure if this is precisely what you want, but here is their OBP overall in 2009 batting in the 1 and 2 spots in the order:

 

Kosuke: .404

Bradley: .421

 

If you want to isolate the numbers to just when they were at the top of the order together, I'm not sure how to do that.

[Backtobanks]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

 

But when your dealing with the remaining 20 mil, I think amends can be made. I mean there arent too many options. If Kosuke were to have been the middle of the order hitter he was supposed to be, he could be in RF and lket Fuld and Reed platoon center. If the Rockies were to trade Hawpe, that would be another option, but they reportedly want to hang on to him now. Bay and Holliday are probably out of our price range. Pat Burrell would be a nightb=mare in right, basically a left handed Jake Fox, so basically Micah Hoffpauir. The other options are the likes of Mike Cameron, Jeremy Hermida, and a few others that would be probable downgrades. I guess this is Hendrys chance to do some actual GM work and not just throw money around.

 

I wonder if Jaramillo could fix Hermida. That would be a great and cheap fix to RF.

[CubColtPacer]

Does anyone have the combined OBP of Kouske and Bradley for the games in which they batted 1-2?

 

Fukudome 2/13 with 5 BB

Bradley 3/15 with 2 BB and a HBP

 

so that is a combined OBP of .361 over the 4 games that they were in the top 2 spots in the lineup.

[Tyrant]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

Unless Rudy can somehow get Milton to play half his games at The Ballpark in Arlington while somehow still playing for the Cubs, it's not going to matter.

[Backtobanks]

More importantly, what is BacktoBanks reporting?

 

I'm not "reporting" anything. I have posted often that there probably would be a lot of interest in Bradley as long as the Cubs are desperate enough to trade him for cents on the dollar. I look forward to seeing some "actual" offers for Bradley. So far all we have read is there's more interest than expected and Ricketts has set a limit as to how much he will pay on Bradley's contract. I will be ecstatic to admit I was wrong if Hendry can get something of value for Bradley without paying a ton of money.

[dew1679666265]

More importantly, what is BacktoBanks reporting?

 

I'm not "reporting" anything. I have posted often that there probably would be a lot of interest in Bradley as long as the Cubs are desperate enough to trade him for cents on the dollar. I look forward to seeing some "actual" offers for Bradley. So far all we have read is there's more interest than expected and Ricketts has set a limit as to how much he will pay on Bradley's contract. I will be ecstatic to admit I was wrong if Hendry can get something of value for Bradley without paying a ton of money.

 

If Ricketts has made it clear that Bradley won't be traded for pennies on the dollar and there is still significant interest in Bradley, wouldn't that be evidence, though?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Unless we get offered a legit replacement for Bradley, or enough money to sign Bay or Holliday I really wish they would hang on to him for another year and see what Rudy J can do for him.

 

i understand what you mean...to a degree...but it is kind of like pissing into the wind at this point

 

bradley's ship has sailed far far away from this team

 

But when your dealing with the remaining 20 mil, I think amends can be made. I mean there arent too many options. If Kosuke were to have been the middle of the order hitter he was supposed to be, he could be in RF and lket Fuld and Reed platoon center. If the Rockies were to trade Hawpe, that would be another option, but they reportedly want to hang on to him now. Bay and Holliday are probably out of our price range. Pat Burrell would be a nightb=mare in right, basically a left handed Jake Fox, so basically Micah Hoffpauir. The other options are the likes of Mike Cameron, Jeremy Hermida, and a few others that would be probable downgrades. I guess this is Hendrys chance to do some actual GM work and not just throw money around.

 

I wonder if Jaramillo could fix Hermida. That would be a great and cheap fix to RF.

 

With this I agree, however, if is the key word here.

[Banedon]

By the way, I didn't read that to mean anything about payroll limits. I think Ricketts just doesn't want to pay out too much money for a good player to play for another team. Can't blame him. If you have to spend the money, you should at least be getting something for it.

[jersey cubs fan]

More importantly, what is BacktoBanks reporting?

 

I'm not "reporting" anything. I have posted often that there probably would be a lot of interest in Bradley as long as the Cubs are desperate enough to trade him for cents on the dollar. I look forward to seeing some "actual" offers for Bradley. So far all we have read is there's more interest than expected and Ricketts has set a limit as to how much he will pay on Bradley's contract. I will be ecstatic to admit I was wrong if Hendry can get something of value for Bradley without paying a ton of money.

 

If Ricketts has made it clear that Bradley won't be traded for pennies on the dollar and there is still significant interest in Bradley, wouldn't that be evidence, though?

 

It's been reported that he set a limit, not what the limit was. If they pay half the salary it's still a huge problem unless they get a very big return of talent.

[dew1679666265]

More importantly, what is BacktoBanks reporting?

 

I'm not "reporting" anything. I have posted often that there probably would be a lot of interest in Bradley as long as the Cubs are desperate enough to trade him for cents on the dollar. I look forward to seeing some "actual" offers for Bradley. So far all we have read is there's more interest than expected and Ricketts has set a limit as to how much he will pay on Bradley's contract. I will be ecstatic to admit I was wrong if Hendry can get something of value for Bradley without paying a ton of money.

 

If Ricketts has made it clear that Bradley won't be traded for pennies on the dollar and there is still significant interest in Bradley, wouldn't that be evidence, though?

 

It's been reported that he set a limit, not what the limit was. If they pay half the salary it's still a huge problem unless they get a very big return of talent.

 

I'm not saying what it or is not a good trade, but paying half the salary is not "pennies on the dollar." Ricketts has said the Cubs won't pay the vast majority of his contract in a trade and that's all Backtobanks is saying teams will be interested in.

[Banedon]

Yeah...teams could be interested in Bradley only because they think the Cubs will give him away. If they they hold out for value, interest could shrink quickly.

[dew1679666265]

Yeah...teams could be interested in Bradley only because they think the Cubs will give him away. If they they hold out for value, interest could shrink quickly.

 

I'm sure they don't want to pay his entire salary or give up top flight young talent, but there's no way all the interest is from the idea that the Cubs will pay 80-90% of his salary. Especially after the comments from Ricketts.