College Football - Week of Oct. 10th

[dew1679666265]

Jackson State and Wofford (or whatever - I don't think either of these schools even exists).

 

Not sure if you were serious, but they do, in fact, exist. They're both 1-AA teams.

 

I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious.

 

You're probably right.

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Jackson State and Wofford (or whatever - I don't think either of these schools even exists).

 

Not sure if you were serious, but they do, in fact, exist. They're both 1-AA teams.

 

Wofford's played about 8 teams in the top 25 this year, so I'm sure the school exists. I'm not sure the football team existed before each of those teams paid the school $200k-$500k for the honor of getting their ass kicked.

[dew1679666265]

Jackson State and Wofford (or whatever - I don't think either of these schools even exists).

 

Not sure if you were serious, but they do, in fact, exist. They're both 1-AA teams.

 

Wofford's played about 8 teams in the top 25 this year, so I'm sure the school exists. I'm not sure the football team existed before each of those teams paid the school $200k-$500k for the honor of getting their ass kicked.

 

I'd round up a football team if it meant getting paid $200-$500k to get demolished. Happily.

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Jackson State and Wofford (or whatever - I don't think either of these schools even exists).

 

Not sure if you were serious, but they do, in fact, exist. They're both 1-AA teams.

 

Wofford's played about 8 teams in the top 25 this year, so I'm sure the school exists. I'm not sure the football team existed before each of those teams paid the school $200k-$500k for the honor of getting their ass kicked.

 

I'd round up a football team if it meant getting paid $200-$500k to get demolished. Happily.

 

Sure you would. But it's a tad embarrassing for a big time college program to dole out that much money 3 times a year rather than playing real teams home and home. I can see how it's necessary to complete a schedule at times. But it's ridiculous how frequently some teams do it.

[dew1679666265]

Jackson State and Wofford (or whatever - I don't think either of these schools even exists).

 

Not sure if you were serious, but they do, in fact, exist. They're both 1-AA teams.

 

Wofford's played about 8 teams in the top 25 this year, so I'm sure the school exists. I'm not sure the football team existed before each of those teams paid the school $200k-$500k for the honor of getting their ass kicked.

 

I'd round up a football team if it meant getting paid $200-$500k to get demolished. Happily.

 

Sure you would. But it's a tad embarrassing for a big time college program to dole out that much money 3 times a year rather than playing real teams home and home. I can see how it's necessary to complete a schedule at times. But it's ridiculous how frequently some teams do it.

 

Yeah, I don't really like championship contending teams scheduling 1-AA teams, but it's very pricey (like nearly $1 million per game according to UT's AD) to schedule the lower level 1-A teams and it's likely very difficult to schedule more than one home/home series with other elite teams more than once per year.

 

Also, the BCS system discourages scheduling too many tough games. For instance, OU scheduled two tough teams and are now likely out of the national championship picture. Had they scheduled Wofford and Jackson State instead of BYU and Miami, they'd still be in the picture.

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Yeah, I don't really like championship contending teams scheduling 1-AA teams, but it's very pricey (like nearly $1 million per game according to UT's AD) to schedule the lower level 1-A teams and it's likely very difficult to schedule more than one home/home series with other elite teams more than once per year.

 

Also, the BCS system discourages scheduling too many tough games. For instance, OU scheduled two tough teams and are now likely out of the national championship picture. Had they scheduled Wofford and Jackson State instead of BYU and Miami, they'd still be in the picture.

 

The price depends on the game. There was a piece about it in USA Today this season, I think. Some are $1m though I think that was the record set by OSU this year.

 

And yes, the BCS certainly discourages it. But it's as much about the margin of victory as it is the losses. Playing a legit BCS team and beating them by a TD or less is almost as bad as a loss. But beating Jackson State by 50 is apparently a legitimate win. It makes no sense. Rankings are a joke. Officiating is a joke. Scheduling is a joke. The whole system is a mess.

[Andy]

Yeah, I don't really like championship contending teams scheduling 1-AA teams, but it's very pricey (like nearly $1 million per game according to UT's AD) to schedule the lower level 1-A teams and it's likely very difficult to schedule more than one home/home series with other elite teams more than once per year.

 

Also, the BCS system discourages scheduling too many tough games. For instance, OU scheduled two tough teams and are now likely out of the national championship picture. Had they scheduled Wofford and Jackson State instead of BYU and Miami, they'd still be in the picture.

 

The price depends on the game. There was a piece about it in USA Today this season, I think. Some are $1m though I think that was the record set by OSU this year.

 

And yes, the BCS certainly discourages it. But it's as much about the margin of victory as it is the losses. Playing a legit BCS team and beating them by a TD or less is almost as bad as a loss. But beating Jackson State by 50 is apparently a legitimate win. It makes no sense. Rankings are a joke. Officiating is a joke. Scheduling is a joke. The whole system is a mess.

I'm in the "liking that the regular season is a de facto playoff" group, but this system has all sorts of improvements that need to be made. Starting with scheduling, and taking away conference officiating crews, which create all sorts of conflicts of interest.

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say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

[Andy]

say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

And one of those big-pay games a year is fine. But Penn State also played Temple and Akron. Michigan played EMU and WMU and also plays Delaware State. Michigan State played Montana State and CMU and has a game with WMU left. And that's just a few Big Ten teams for sampling. There's no reason to have three little boys on a team's schedule year in and year out.

[Andy]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

[TruffleShuffle]

say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

And one of those big-pay games a year is fine. But Penn State also played Temple and Akron. Michigan played EMU and WMU and also plays Delaware State. Michigan State played Montana State and CMU and has a game with WMU left. And that's just a few Big Ten teams for sampling. There's no reason to have three little boys on a team's schedule year in and year out.

 

if you don't play little boys, you're playing a lot more home-and-home series, or 2-for-1, which reduces the number of home games you play, which costs your athletic department a lot of revenue. penn state can't bring in west virginia or maryland to play in happy valley every year.

[Andy]

say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

And one of those big-pay games a year is fine. But Penn State also played Temple and Akron. Michigan played EMU and WMU and also plays Delaware State. Michigan State played Montana State and CMU and has a game with WMU left. And that's just a few Big Ten teams for sampling. There's no reason to have three little boys on a team's schedule year in and year out.

 

if you don't play little boys, you're playing a lot more home-and-home series, or 2-for-1, which reduces the number of home games you play, which costs your athletic department a lot of revenue. penn state can't bring in west virginia or maryland to play in happy valley every year.

Penn State has eight home games. So does Michigan. MSU does too. I'm sure the majority of SEC teams do as well. Eight home games is great for revenue, I suppose, but it's ridiculous and punishes teams like Ohio State (loath as I am to give them credit for anything), USC, Florida/Florida State, Clemson/South Carolina, Georgia/Georgia Tech, and anyone else who actually tries to play intriguing games once in a while. I think it's stupid enough that ND is playing seven home games a year now with only four true road games. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask teams to at least play 7/5 schedules most years. They don't even have to make that extra road game all that tough (Texas played at UTEP recently, Miami's going to UCF the week after this one, IU has played games at MAC schools often).

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say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

And one of those big-pay games a year is fine. But Penn State also played Temple and Akron. Michigan played EMU and WMU and also plays Delaware State. Michigan State played Montana State and CMU and has a game with WMU left. And that's just a few Big Ten teams for sampling. There's no reason to have three little boys on a team's schedule year in and year out.

 

if you don't play little boys, you're playing a lot more home-and-home series, or 2-for-1, which reduces the number of home games you play, which costs your athletic department a lot of revenue. penn state can't bring in west virginia or maryland to play in happy valley every year.

 

There's no reason to have 3 "buy" games and 8 home games in a 12-game schedule. PSU isn't the only one to do it this year. In fact, UM has done it the last 3 times ND played at Ann Arbor (05, 07, 09). You schedule 3 buy games and a home-home with a BCS team. Then you 7 home games one year and 8 the next.

[TruffleShuffle]

say penn state is paying eastern illinois $500,000 this year; that money goes a long way toward supporting non-revenue sports at eastern illinois (in other words, every sport, since football loses money there too). meanwhile, say penn state makes $70 a ticket and sells 100k tickets; that's $7M for the school plus whatever they make on concessions, clothing, etc. it's not exciting to watch penn state play eastern illinois, but the money penn state's football team makes every year is enough to support all non-revenue athletic programs. so maybe the system isn't great for college football, but for ncaa sports in general i think it's a very good thing.

And one of those big-pay games a year is fine. But Penn State also played Temple and Akron. Michigan played EMU and WMU and also plays Delaware State. Michigan State played Montana State and CMU and has a game with WMU left. And that's just a few Big Ten teams for sampling. There's no reason to have three little boys on a team's schedule year in and year out.

 

if you don't play little boys, you're playing a lot more home-and-home series, or 2-for-1, which reduces the number of home games you play, which costs your athletic department a lot of revenue. penn state can't bring in west virginia or maryland to play in happy valley every year.

 

There's no reason to have 3 "buy" games and 8 home games in a 12-game schedule. PSU isn't the only one to do it this year. In fact, UM has done it the last 3 times ND played at Ann Arbor (05, 07, 09). You schedule 3 buy games and a home-home with a BCS team. Then you 7 home games one year and 8 the next.

 

oh i agree with this, but this year is an outlier for us. it's our first year since going to a 12 game schedule that we've had 4 home games, and we have a road game in each year of 2010-12. most years we have a home-and-home with a bcs opponent, a 2-for-1 with temple (works for both schools - we get a virtual home game on the road and all the penn state grads in the philly area get to go to see psu close to home; temple gets 60,000 fans more than they usually get for a home game) and then two relative turds at home.

 

my point was that it's not realistic to play only one turd a year and still maintain at least 7 home games a year, which penn state will not give up. most bcs programs will require a home-and-home (we have that with syracuse right now and alabama, rutgers and virginia coming up), and even some of the good non-bcs programs (tcu, utah, fresno st, boise st) will require at least a 2-for-1. it'd be nice if we didn't play temple every year, but psu's alumni and the temple AD like the arrangement, so it probably isn't going away.

[Flames24Rulz]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

 

Hell. Yes.

[Keener98]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

 

Hell. Yes.

 

McGee is nothing to write home about either.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

 

Hell. Yes.

 

McGee is nothing to write home about either.

 

He'll be much better than Juice.

[Keener98]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

 

Hell. Yes.

 

McGee is nothing to write home about either.

 

He'll be much better than Juice.

 

We will see. Ive never been impressed when hes played.

[Guest]

I have no idea what I was thinking when I drafted Juice Williams in the third round of my CFB fantasy draft.

[Flames24Rulz]

According to Stewart Mandel's Twitter, Ron Zook has announced Eddie McGee will start for the Illini this weekend.

 

Hell. Yes.

 

McGee is nothing to write home about either.

 

He'll be much better than Juice.

 

We will see. Ive never been impressed when hes played.

 

At this point, why not? You can basically throw away this season anyway so let's see what the junior has to offer before next season.

 

Besides Juice's freshman year, I really haven't been a big fan of him. This year, he's looked absolutely horrible. A change had to be made.

[Flames24Rulz]

I have no idea what I was thinking when I drafted Juice Williams in the third round of my CFB fantasy draft.

 

He had a very good year statistically last year, plus you had to figure that the offense would've been better with the same unit in tact. Benn's a year older and all offseason long, they were preaching how much they were going to get him involved. The RB's are all the same, but a year older. Fayson transferring from Florida to Illinois figured to help Juice, as well.

 

I don't fault you for drafting him. He's just really regressed this year.

[SouthSideRyan]

Besides Juice's freshman year, I really haven't been a big fan of him. This year, he's looked absolutely horrible. A change had to be made.

 

He was inconsistent, but pretty damn good his sophomore year, if just for the Ohio St. game alone.

[stuy119]

Wow, I can't even begin to tell you guys how messed up the situation at FSU is right now. Changes will be announced later this week (mid-season changes), with others to follow at the end of the year. Including Bowden stepping down, or getting fired/not renewed if he doesn't want to go gracefully.

 

Boosters are slinging mud, Bobby's family is slinging mud, the Board of Trustees is overstepping the President of FSU, etc.

 

Crazy.

[NewUserName]

MSU only has 7 home games this year, and CMU is probably almost as good as ND.

 

I have believed for awhile that as long as the NCAA is going to endorse this Faux National Championship thing, they need to take more control of scheduling and officiating for non-conference games. I would suggest that until just recently PSU, UM and MSU have played fairly competitive non con schedules, they may have seen the writing on the wall of some other major powers from the south and changed their ways

[Andy]

MSU only has 7 home games this year, and CMU is probably almost as good as ND.

 

I have believed for awhile that as long as the NCAA is going to endorse this Faux National Championship thing, they need to take more control of scheduling and officiating for non-conference games. I would suggest that until just recently PSU, UM and MSU have played fairly competitive non con schedules, they may have seen the writing on the wall of some other major powers from the south and changed their ways

My mistake on 7 home games, for some reason I totally blanked that you came to South Bend this year (and I was there so that was especially dumb).

 

CMU is not almost as good as ND. They're a really good MAC team, but the MAC really, really sucks.