College Basketball 2009-10

[snoodmonger]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

 

Sagarin's comprehensive rankings over the past 72 years.

 

AND GO

 

a lot of it doesn't really pass the eyeball test. I don't know the math behind it, though.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's the standard Sagarin formula for the past 72 years. Tournament games are worth double.

[bukie]

So the Big Ten has been consistently good for 72 years, then.

[illiniguy]

We should be in the mid teens, not the top 10. If we would have won a title maybe.

[SouthSideRyan]

If a ranking covers 72 seasons, I don't think winning 1 title should make a difference.

[illiniguy]

If a ranking covers 72 seasons, I don't think winning 1 title should make a difference.

I don't know. You gotta put a lot of value into one title. Hell I'd trade all our big ten titles for just one.

[bukie]

I can only imagine where Illinois would be if they were decent in the 70s.

[snoodmonger]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

[illiniguy]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

You would be suprised what fans think. I have friends who prefer KU's history to UCLA's. Laughable.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Top 30, f yeah

[manbearcub]

we're pretty irrelevant. darn.

[snoodmonger]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

You would be suprised what fans think. I have friends who prefer KU's history to UCLA's. Laughable.

 

if you include off-the-court history, I can see the KU fans' argument. If you take only on the court results, you have to go with UCLA. The titles speak for themselves.

 

But I'm not trying to make this about UCLA, KU, or UI. there are just some rankings that don't pass the logic test.

[illiniguy]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

You would be suprised what fans think. I have friends who prefer KU's history to UCLA's. Laughable.

 

if you include off-the-court history, I can see the KU fans' argument. If you take only on the court results, you have to go with UCLA. The titles speak for themselves.

 

But I'm not trying to make this about UCLA, KU, or UI. there are just some rankings that don't pass the logic test.

No, I understand. I didn't agree with them either when I first read them.

[shnsajax]

Not bad, Texas is #8 this decade.

[bcl412]

we're pretty irrelevant. darn.

 

Number 10? I'm kind of surprised. I know Iowa has had some really good teams, but I'm still surprised.

[illiniguy]

we're pretty irrelevant. darn.

You should probably hang a banner to go with your big ten tournament championship ones.

[manbearcub]

we're pretty irrelevant. darn.

You should probably hang a banner to go with your big ten tournament championship ones.

you should save your anger for someone less relevant than us, such as Michigan State or Louisville.

[XZero771679666304]

we're pretty irrelevant. darn.

You should probably hang a banner to go with your big ten tournament championship ones.

you should save your anger for someone less relevant than us, such as Michigan State or Louisville.

 

Hawkeye fans are so cute.

[SouthSideRyan]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

 

All it's doing is rating how teams have done over 72 years. What's so hard to understand that Illinois was a superior program to Duke for like the first 50 years of the rankings?

[SouthSideRyan]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

 

All it's doing is rating how teams have done over 72 years. What's so hard to understand that Illinois was a superior program to Duke for like the first 50 years of the rankings?

 

Should I be jealous of San Francisco's history?

[NCCubFan]

My favorite teams are #1 (Kentucky), #5 (Indiana), and #148 (Ball State).

[wekse]

My favorite teams are #1 (Kentucky), #5 (Indiana), and #148 (Ball State).

 

do you have 3 fave teams in every sport?

[SouthSideRyan]

My favorite teams are #1 (Kentucky), #5 (Indiana), and #148 (Ball State).

 

do you have 3 fave teams in every sport?

 

I believe he has 4 favorite NFL teams.

[snoodmonger]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

 

All it's doing is rating how teams have done over 72 years. What's so hard to understand that Illinois was a superior program to Duke for like the first 50 years of the rankings?

 

According to Sagarin's formula. UI over UConn, I guess I can accept, since they've only been relevant for about twenty years. Duke has a history that extends for a long time. I don't care if UI racked up wins in the 40s, 50s, and 60s--that success shouldn't outweigh the success Duke has had from the 60s on. JMO. Nothing to get worked up about. UI over Duke is hardly the only one that made me double take.

[snoodmonger]

There isn't a fan out there who could say with a straight face that they'd prefer UI's history/resume over Duke's. All this listing does (imo) is make me question Sagarin's method.

 

All it's doing is rating how teams have done over 72 years. What's so hard to understand that Illinois was a superior program to Duke for like the first 50 years of the rankings?

 

Should I be jealous of San Francisco's history?

 

 

Two different cases, and you know it. SF hasn't been relevant for 40 years or whatever. Duke has almost matched UI in sustained success, and it's done a lot more when it's been successful.