Cub prospects in the news

[Guest]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

Jesus Christ...this is the response to a glowingly positive report and #1 ranking?

 

Also, Pierce isn't that good and all he said was that he hasn't been effective at AA, which is pretty much true. Sue the guy for not getting every last detail about every player's arbitrary end points.

[jersey cubs fan]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

Jesus Christ...this is the response to a glowingly positive report and #1 ranking?

 

Also, Pierce isn't that good and all he said was that he hasn't been effective at AA, which is pretty much true. Sue the guy for not getting every last detail about every player's arbitrary end points.

 

Hey now mister you know the rules, any negative commentary about anything related to the farm system is unwarranted and must come from a biased viewpoint.

[Guest]

I'm actually thinking/hoping that may have been a joke post

[imb]

"i need to sit down and write about the number 1 farm system in baseball"

 

*pens a story focused on the system's disappointments.*

[Guest]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

No, Law is right that Pierce hasn't had a good season (he's referring to the whole season, not just the small sample of 21.2 AA innings since returning from injury).

[Guest]

It's gonna take prospect guys years to come around on how pitching is becoming commoditized. Hendricks/Johnson/Edwards/Black at the upper levels is perfectly acceptable depth, especially since Tseng/Underwood/Blackburn and friends aren't exactly crushing the opposition 2-3 levels lower. No real problem with what Law said, although I did laugh at calling Tseng undersized(confirmation bias indeed).

[UMFan83]

Most loaded the Cubs have been in 30 years? Was the system more loaded circa 1984ish? Dunston, Palmeiro, Grace, Carter...anyone else? Of course I can only recall the hits, so there were potentially more talented prospects that didn't pan out.

[Guest]

Looking back on Shawon's career, it's debatable whether you can call him a "hit" or not.

 

I'm wondering if anybody has had that many PA's and provided that little value.

[fromthestretch]

Looking back on Shawon's career, it's debatable whether you can call him a "hit" or not.

 

I'm wondering if anybody has had that many PA's and provided that little value.

 

Ozzie Guillen...at least offensively. Most of his value came from his defense, but offensively, he was worse than Dunston.

[Guest]

Actually, nevermind that I said that.

 

Neifi Perez also had a huge amount of PA's (not as many as Shawon) with way worse value

 

5510 PA and career WAR of -2.8

 

Shawon was at least positive at 7.3 WAR in 6276 PA

 

 

With a minimum of 5000 career PA, the lowest career fWAR belongs to....Tommy Dowd at -3.1

 

Neifi is 2nd.

 

EDIT - Strangely, I decided to look at only 1980-now on Fangraphs, and Tommy Dowd was wiped out, but Neifi was still second as Alfredo Griffin popped in at #1. Odd. And his player page shows him worth -1 for his career but the leaderboard shows him worth -3.

Edited July 22, 2014 by David

[Guest]

@PaulGerke: Harsin says Joe Martarano is back and done with baseball for now. Working out at BSU, will play some on offense and defense this year.

 

That wasn't...memorable.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Most loaded the Cubs have been in 30 years? Was the system more loaded circa 1984ish? Dunston, Palmeiro, Grace, Carter...anyone else? Of course I can only recall the hits, so there were potentially more talented prospects that didn't pan out.

They must have been pretty loaded in the early 1900s.

[Guest]

Mick Gillispie interview with Soler: http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-injuries-behind-him-soler-finding-his-rhythm

[Guest]

Mick Gillispie interview with Soler: http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-injuries-behind-him-soler-finding-his-rhythm

 

Ha, I was just about to post that. He looks jacked.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Look at that [expletive] smile.

[jersey cubs fan]

Mick Gillispie interview with Soler: http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-injuries-behind-him-soler-finding-his-rhythm

 

Ha, I was just about to post that. He looks jacked.

 

Subtitles? What kind of conceited movie snob would watch this drivel?

 

I vote football in the groin.

[davell]

@PaulGerke: Harsin says Joe Martarano is back and done with baseball for now. Working out at BSU, will play some on offense and defense this year.

 

That wasn't...memorable.

 

Geez, that was quick.

[wekim81]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

No, Law is right that Pierce hasn't had a good season (he's referring to the whole season, not just the small sample of 21.2 AA innings since returning from injury).

I was joking

[Guest]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

No, Law is right that Pierce hasn't had a good season (he's referring to the whole season, not just the small sample of 21.2 AA innings since returning from injury).

I was joking

 

liar.

[snoodmonger]

Mick Gillispie interview with Soler: http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-injuries-behind-him-soler-finding-his-rhythm

 

i think im in love

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Pierce has a 2.08 ERA with almost 8K per 9 and a 2:1 K:BB ratio (which isn’t great, but tons better than before) since he’s come back from injury. But hey Keith, let’s not let that get in the way of a good story. Go write about board games and custard you buffoon.

 

No, Law is right that Pierce hasn't had a good season (he's referring to the whole season, not just the small sample of 21.2 AA innings since returning from injury).

I was joking

 

liar.

yeah, I have a pretty good internet sarcasm detector, and my readings were low on that post

[TruffleShuffle]

lol, did soler really not know that there are rules like, you can't grab a baseball bat and threaten the other dugout? i need to check out a baseball game in cuba, sounds wild.

[seanimal]

lol, did soler really not know that there are rules like, you can't grab a baseball bat and threaten the other dugout? i need to check out a baseball game in cuba, sounds wild.

 

in his defense, that's kind of a dumb rule anyway

[TruffleShuffle]

from the BP monday ten pack (and it's probably good that these are guys we hear less about, rather than the players like bryant/soler/baez who we already know enough about):

 

 

Marco Hernandez, SS, Cubs (High-A Daytona)

There is no system in baseball with more shortstop depth than the Cubs', which is unfortunate for Marco Hernandez, who is as blocked as any minor leaguer in the game. Hernandez will never be Chicago's starting shortstop, but he probably won't be anyone else's starting shortstop either because he doesn't profile to have any impact with the bat. He's a slap hitter from the left side who makes no effort to drive the ball, understanding his role as a speed-based player. He puts the ball on the ground repeatedly but he will never have better than an average hit tool with no power. Where Hernandez makes his name is in the field. He's a plus-plus shortstop who can be a true asset both with his glove and his arm. Smooth and fluid on routine ground balls, he also features plus range to either side and natural creativity on tough plays, regularly flipping the ball behind his back or between his legs on double play turns when necessary. Hernandez won't hit enough to play regularly on a good team and is about the fifth best option for the Cubs at the position, but his glove should be enough to carry him to the majors and allow him to carve out a Freddy Galvis–like role. —Jeff Moore

 

Duane Underwood, RHP, Cubs (Low-A Kane County)

Underwood works with a simple step-back delivery and a 3/4 arm slot. The arm whip is fast and crisp, though he does create an inverted W with his upper body. Underwood worked in the 92-95 mph range with his fastball. It had two-seam action lower in the velocity band, but he had trouble locating it all night. The curveball had some sharp bite beneath the strike zone but he was unable to locate it effectively for strikes. Underwood showed a few changeups, including a few backdoor changes that flashed plus fade, but overall it looked like a show-me pitch that will require work. The raw ingredients are there for Underwood to succeed but he’s going to have to work on fastball command first and foremost; everything else will play up if he can locate his fastball effectively. The curve command will have to come along as well, as he will have to learn how to throw the pitch for effective strikes. At present, it’s just a chase pitch and the higher levels will lay off. Underwood is intriguing, but he’ll need refinement. —Mauricio Rubio

 

Shawon Dunston, OF, Cubs (Low-A Kane County)

An 11th-round pick in the 2011 draft, Dunston was clearly selected to be a slow burn. His first couple of seasons brought moderate success in short-season ball, but the jump to full-season wasn't so kind. He'd been playing sporadically and didn't look comfortable at the plate, finding it hard to get in a groove. After the All Star break, however, especially in the wake of Jacob Hannemann's promotion to Daytona, Dunston has found himself getting everyday reps and the results have followed. In July, he's hitting .410/.426/.525, and it hasn't just been BABIP luck: In the last two games, Dunston has stung the ball five or six times. As the son of a major leaguer, it's no surprise that Dunston is a good athlete, running times around 4.2 seconds to first. He doesn't feature his father's 80 arm; it's average or a tick below. Overall, Dunston does not have an impact profile, but he has put himself firmly on the prospect radar. Even though there isn't much power potential, as the hit tool manifests, there's the possibility he becomes a solid extra outfielder. —Jordan Gorosh

[jersey cubs fan]

from the BP monday ten pack (and it's probably good that these are guys we hear less about, rather than the players like bryant/soler/baez who we already know enough about):

 

 

Marco Hernandez, SS, Cubs (High-A Daytona)

There is no system in baseball with more shortstop depth than the Cubs', which is unfortunate for Marco Hernandez, who is as blocked as any minor leaguer in the game. Hernandez will never be Chicago's starting shortstop, but he probably won't be anyone else's starting shortstop either because he doesn't profile to have any impact with the bat. He's a slap hitter from the left side who makes no effort to drive the ball, understanding his role as a speed-based player. He puts the ball on the ground repeatedly but he will never have better than an average hit tool with no power. Where Hernandez makes his name is in the field. He's a plus-plus shortstop who can be a true asset both with his glove and his arm. Smooth and fluid on routine ground balls, he also features plus range to either side and natural creativity on tough plays, regularly flipping the ball behind his back or between his legs on double play turns when necessary. Hernandez won't hit enough to play regularly on a good team and is about the fifth best option for the Cubs at the position, but his glove should be enough to carry him to the majors and allow him to carve out a Freddy Galvis–like role. —Jeff Moore

 

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