Cubs sign Aaron Miles per Levine

[Backtobanks]

You can never have enough backup secondbasemen. With Fontenot, Cedeno, Soriano and Miles we have four in case Lou runs through his classic double switch fiascos late in a critical 24 inning game in the playoffs, provided we don't trade DeRosa. Kudos for Hendry to keep his forward-thinking up.

 

 

Calling Soriano a 2B is like calling Dunn a RF. =D>

[rchap24]

So has anyone seen/heard this anywhere else? Seems like it's gonna be an interesting few days here. Marquis and DeRosa moving out, Bradley in...still not sure any of it links in with Peavy though.

 

And if that all goes down and we add Peavy that I really don't mind this move...yeah the money is a little high, but its not ridiculous as previously stated after having a career year

 

Right, but I think one may have nothing to do with the other. Marquis and DeRosa are salary moving trades to set up to sign Miles and Bradley.

 

Don't see the connection with Peavy, though perhaps it clears up the ability to trade Cedeno. If we ever really needed him.

 

Where do you think DeRosa is going then?

 

Perhaps. And I guess the other thing I forgot is that we could be sending prospects we get for DeRo to San Diego.

 

So, I guess there isn't a literal connection, dude...

 

No I was actually asking where you guys think DeRosa will get traded if not to San Diego?

 

And my question was maybe answered? the Indians?

[soapy]

wait, is the $5 million right? oh no.....

[YearofDaCubs]

Am I the only one with reservations with Fontenot becoming the starting 2B?

Nope I feel the same way.

[kujay]

wait, is the $5 million right? oh no.....

 

Shades of Hank White's deal. Only worse.

[Mephistopheles]

Interesting.

 

For a middle infielder, he has average OBP skills. Below average power. Overall a below average offensive player. I'm pretty sure he is rated at being very solid defensively (I know the Cardinals saw him as a strong middle infielder defensively). Overall, an average middle infielder.

 

 

If you think Aaron Miles is an "average middle infielder" then I just don't know what to say. Aaron Miles and Neifi Perez are interchangeable. This is nowhere close to being anything but an irrational stupid move that should get Hendry fired. There's no excuse for this deal.

[rchap24]

Interesting.

 

For a middle infielder, he has average OBP skills. Below average power. Overall a below average offensive player. I'm pretty sure he is rated at being very solid defensively (I know the Cardinals saw him as a strong middle infielder defensively). Overall, an average middle infielder.

 

 

If you think Aaron Miles is an "average middle infielder" then I just don't know what to say. Aaron Miles and Neifi Perez are interchangeable. This is nowhere close to being anything but an irrational stupid move that should get Hendry fired. There's no excuse for this deal.

 

I think that's a little over board

[soapy]

i don't have a problem with signing miles as a backup, but $4.9 million for two years is insanity.

[abuck1220]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

[rchap24]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

 

Oh this move is [expletive] unless we sign Bradley and get Peavy

[Post Count Padder]

Interesting.

 

For a middle infielder, he has average OBP skills. Below average power. Overall a below average offensive player. I'm pretty sure he is rated at being very solid defensively (I know the Cardinals saw him as a strong middle infielder defensively). Overall, an average middle infielder.

 

 

If you think Aaron Miles is an "average middle infielder" then I just don't know what to say. Aaron Miles and Neifi Perez are interchangeable. This is nowhere close to being anything but an irrational stupid move that should get Hendry fired. There's no excuse for this deal.

 

I think that's a little over board

Yeah, Miles has at least shown he can hit .280-.290. After that though, I wouldn't expect much. Little power, doesn't steal many bases. Average OBP. I don't know what his defensive peripherals look like but I'm sure they're not horrible. He's rather gritty if you ask me, but I don't think he's as bad as Neifi.

[RammyFanny]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

 

Oh this move is [expletive] unless we sign Bradley and get Peavy

 

Well we already got Bradley. Levine continues to say that both parties have agreed. I'm sure they are just waiting until the front offices are officially open to announce the deal.

[rchap24]

Interesting.

 

For a middle infielder, he has average OBP skills. Below average power. Overall a below average offensive player. I'm pretty sure he is rated at being very solid defensively (I know the Cardinals saw him as a strong middle infielder defensively). Overall, an average middle infielder.

 

 

If you think Aaron Miles is an "average middle infielder" then I just don't know what to say. Aaron Miles and Neifi Perez are interchangeable. This is nowhere close to being anything but an irrational stupid move that should get Hendry fired. There's no excuse for this deal.

 

I think that's a little over board

Yeah, Miles has at least shown he can hit .280-.290. After that though, I wouldn't expect much. Little power, doesn't steal many bases. Average OBP. I don't know what his defensive peripherals look like but I'm sure they're not horrible. He's rather gritty if you ask me, but I don't think he's as bad as Neifi.

 

I think he's a little better than Neifi, but what I meant was the him getting fired for making the deal

[Mephistopheles]

Yeah Aaron Miles has shown that he can get a single 29% of the time. and that's it. He's a trashy second baseman who is more or less a replacement level player. Even if we traded DeRosa and Cedeno, there's still no excuse for this deal.

[rawaction]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

 

Yeah, I hate this philosophy. You know you can get Peavy and Bradley, but wait to get rid of players because you don't want to have that much money tied up in case something doesn't work out. Well, isn't it better to get Peavy and Bradley and worry about a Marquis trade NOT working out than making the trades to get rid of Marquis and Derosa and having the Peavy deal not work out. It's better to be stuck with a super high payroll, but have a good team than it is to be stuck with a lower payroll and a lesser team.

[Mephistopheles]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

[kujay]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

 

Yeah, I hate this philosophy. You know you can get Peavy and Bradley, but wait to get rid of players because you don't want to have that much money tied up in case something doesn't work out. Well, isn't it better to get Peavy and Bradley and worry about a Marquis trade NOT working out than making the trades to get rid of Marquis and Derosa and having the Peavy deal not work out. It's better to be stuck with a super high payroll, but have a good team than it is to be stuck with a lower payroll and a lesser team.

 

Says the guy not writing the checks.

 

I agree with you, but I don't think that's how they think in the front office.

[Schwarber Fan]

I'm OK with a Fontenot/Miles platoon at 2B if we get Bradley and Peavy

[rocket]

"We expect Aaron to provide significant versatility and flexibility to our roster," Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said. "He handles the bat well from both sides of the plate and is a skillful middle infielder who has added third base and all three outfield positions to his repertoire during the last few years."

 

God, our team would be so much better off if Hendry didn't have such a hard on for versatility.

[apete6]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

 

What if we get Peavy for the DeRosa prospects, and no one very valuable to the major league team and go into the season with this roster?

 

OF: Soriano, Johnson, Fukudome, Gathright, Bradley

IF: Ramirez, Theriot, Fontenot, Miles, Lee, another bad backup IF

C: Soto, Koyie Hill

 

SP: Peavy, Dempster, Zambrano, Lilly, Marshall

RP: Gregg, Marmol, Samardzija, Wuertz, Cotts, Guzman, Vizcaino

 

Gone in trades would be: Marquis, Pie, Cedeno, DeRosa, minor leaguers from Cleveland, and a few other lower level guys from Cubs.

Edited December 31, 2008 by apete6

[Illini Iceman]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

 

 

I'd be interested in seeing your stats to back up that 10-12 win regression.

 

And it is a little hard to make any such definitive statements until you see the final team they bring to spring training.

Edited December 31, 2008 by Illini Iceman

[rawaction]

cubs better get peavy because dero >>> miles/fontenot and wood >>> gregg. they've gotten a whole lot worse since the season ended.

 

Yeah, I hate this philosophy. You know you can get Peavy and Bradley, but wait to get rid of players because you don't want to have that much money tied up in case something doesn't work out. Well, isn't it better to get Peavy and Bradley and worry about a Marquis trade NOT working out than making the trades to get rid of Marquis and Derosa and having the Peavy deal not work out. It's better to be stuck with a super high payroll, but have a good team than it is to be stuck with a lower payroll and a lesser team.

 

Says the guy not writing the checks.

 

I agree with you, but I don't think that's how they think in the front office.

 

But that's the same philosophy that caused the Cubs to settle for Burnitz and Jacque Jones because they were too afraid of being stuck with with the contracts of Sosa, Alou, Alex Gonzalez or whatever and failed to go after Beltran, Vlad, and Tejada. And still if the Braves come in and swoop up Peavy, the Cubs are screwed.

[cubsfan26]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

 

 

 

What dumb comment, I dunno why I'm even wasting my time responding. Gregg/Wood isn't a huge difference win/loss wise. The rest of the roster will be pretty much the same with probably a upgrade of Bradley over Edmonds. If we add Peavy to the roster on top of that, it's no question were better.

Edited December 31, 2008 by cubsfan26

[JWCUB]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

 

What if we get Peavy for the DeRosa prospects, and no one very valuable to the major league team and go into the season with this roster?

 

OF: Soriano, Johnson, Fukudome, Gathright, Bradley

IF: Ramirez, Theriot, Fontenot, Miles, Lee, another bad backup IF

C: Soto, Koyie Hill

 

SP: Peavy, Dempster, Zambrano, Lilly, Marshall

RP: Gregg, Marmol, Samardzija, Wuertz, Cotts, Guzman, Vizcaino

 

Gone in trades would be: Marquis, Pie, Cedeno, DeRosa, minor leaguers from Cleveland, and a few other lower level guys from Cubs.

 

Harden?

[apete6]

even if we sign bradley with all of the downgrades we've done this season we're a lot worse than we were last season. A good 10 to 12 wins.

 

What if we get Peavy for the DeRosa prospects, and no one very valuable to the major league team and go into the season with this roster?

 

OF: Soriano, Johnson, Fukudome, Gathright, Bradley

IF: Ramirez, Theriot, Fontenot, Miles, Lee, another bad backup IF

C: Soto, Koyie Hill

 

SP: Peavy, Dempster, Zambrano, Lilly, Marshall

RP: Gregg, Marmol, Samardzija, Wuertz, Cotts, Guzman, Vizcaino

 

Gone in trades would be: Marquis, Pie, Cedeno, DeRosa, minor leaguers from Cleveland, and a few other lower level guys from Cubs.

 

Ha, I forgot Harden. Put him on there, move Marshall to bullpen and get rid of Wuertz or Guzman.