2009 Chicago Bears offseason

[Guest]

Editorial plea to Angelo from the Suntimes on Cutler:

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hayes/1491096,hayes-bears-cutler-letter-032309.article

 

Quoted for hilarity and for Truthiness:

 

"Did you know, Jerry, that generations of Chicago kids have grown up not realizing that quarterback ratings go higher than 70.0? You see them in parks and backyards across the region emulating their heroes by throwing wobbly passes and practicing hand-offs."

 

God, is that ever the truth. I only really started following the team closely at the beginning of the Harbaugh era, and it has been mediocrity at QB the entire time. You'd think at some point Angelo would at least blindly stumble his way into acquiring a good QB, but no. I'm trying to think of another team that has spent the last 20 years without having had a good-great QB at any point during, but I am having a hard time.

 

Quit complaining. I grew up in the Bob Avellini era.

 

Quit complaining, yourself. I grew up in the Bobby Douglass era. :grin:

[Guest]

Let's put this into perspective for just a minute.

 

Drew Brees has nearly as many passing yards for the New Orleans Saints as the all time passing leader for the Bears.

 

Need more?

[dew1679666265]

Heyward-Bey would be a brutal pick.

 

Why do you think that?

 

He really doesn't have good hands, and we don't need ANOTHER fast WR who can't catch. Sure he has a lot of potential, but I think it'd be a terrible first round pick when there will surely be better bets at other positions of need available.

 

He's inconsistent catching the football, but I don't think he has bad hands or anything. Everything I've heard says he has decent, but inconsistent hands that should improve with a little time. Given his terrific speed, size, athletic ability and potential, I don't think decent hands are enough to make him a brutal pick.

 

I'd still take a more refined Maclin or Crabtree over him, but if the best OTs and WRs are off the board, I don't see how he'd be a bad pick.

 

Here's three draft sites' analysis of him:

 

runs crisp routes and possesses good hands

 

Is inconsistent catching the ball and does not have great natural hands

 

With more reps he should be able to become more consistent catching the football and running his routes.

[WrigleyField 22]

Bears pick up a compensatory third rounder for Bernard Berrian. 99th overall.

 

Also get two sevenths, 246 and 251, for Gilmore and Ayanbadejo.

 

Cha Ching!

[BDWeav71]

Oh very nice, I didn't think Berrian was going to give them a 3rd I figured he would net a 4th this is very good news - Lets hope we can pick up a contributor with this pick.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Oh very nice, I didn't think Berrian was going to give them a 3rd I figured he would net a 4th this is very good news - Lets hope we can pick up a contributor with this pick.

 

Id prefer to redraft Bob Sapp.

http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bob-sapp-2.jpg

[USSoccer]

Let's put this into perspective for just a minute.

 

Drew Brees has nearly as many passing yards for the New Orleans Saints as the all time passing leader for the Bears.

 

Need more?

 

If they'd bring the Sex Cannon back we wouldn't have to worry about this.

[Magnetic Curses]

Editorial plea to Angelo from the Suntimes on Cutler:

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hayes/1491096,hayes-bears-cutler-letter-032309.article

 

Quoted for hilarity and for Truthiness:

 

"Did you know, Jerry, that generations of Chicago kids have grown up not realizing that quarterback ratings go higher than 70.0? You see them in parks and backyards across the region emulating their heroes by throwing wobbly passes and practicing hand-offs."

 

not to nitpick, but that's not what "truthiness" means.

[Magnetic Curses]

Heyward-Bey would be a brutal pick.

 

Why do you think that?

 

He really doesn't have good hands, and we don't need ANOTHER fast WR who can't catch. Sure he has a lot of potential, but I think it'd be a terrible first round pick when there will surely be better bets at other positions of need available.

 

He's inconsistent catching the football, but I don't think he has bad hands or anything. Everything I've heard says he has decent, but inconsistent hands that should improve with a little time. Given his terrific speed, size, athletic ability and potential, I don't think decent hands are enough to make him a brutal pick.

 

I'd still take a more refined Maclin or Crabtree over him, but if the best OTs and WRs are off the board, I don't see how he'd be a bad pick.

 

Here's three draft sites' analysis of him:

 

runs crisp routes and possesses good hands

 

Is inconsistent catching the ball and does not have great natural hands

 

With more reps he should be able to become more consistent catching the football and running his routes.

 

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

[Guest]

Heyward-Bey would be a brutal pick.

 

Why do you think that?

 

He really doesn't have good hands, and we don't need ANOTHER fast WR who can't catch. Sure he has a lot of potential, but I think it'd be a terrible first round pick when there will surely be better bets at other positions of need available.

 

He's inconsistent catching the football, but I don't think he has bad hands or anything. Everything I've heard says he has decent, but inconsistent hands that should improve with a little time. Given his terrific speed, size, athletic ability and potential, I don't think decent hands are enough to make him a brutal pick.

 

I'd still take a more refined Maclin or Crabtree over him, but if the best OTs and WRs are off the board, I don't see how he'd be a bad pick.

 

Here's three draft sites' analysis of him:

 

runs crisp routes and possesses good hands

 

Is inconsistent catching the ball and does not have great natural hands

 

With more reps he should be able to become more consistent catching the football and running his routes.

 

Crisp routes!? That certainly can't be correct about DHB.

[Guest]

Bears pick up a compensatory third rounder for Bernard Berrian. 99th overall.

 

Also get two sevenths, 246 and 251, for Gilmore and Ayanbadejo.

 

Cha Ching!

 

Wasn't expecting a pick for Gilmore. Had heard 3rd for Berrian and 7th for Ayanbadejo, nice to get confirmation on the 3rd rounder.

[dew1679666265]

Heyward-Bey would be a brutal pick.

 

Why do you think that?

 

He really doesn't have good hands, and we don't need ANOTHER fast WR who can't catch. Sure he has a lot of potential, but I think it'd be a terrible first round pick when there will surely be better bets at other positions of need available.

 

He's inconsistent catching the football, but I don't think he has bad hands or anything. Everything I've heard says he has decent, but inconsistent hands that should improve with a little time. Given his terrific speed, size, athletic ability and potential, I don't think decent hands are enough to make him a brutal pick.

 

I'd still take a more refined Maclin or Crabtree over him, but if the best OTs and WRs are off the board, I don't see how he'd be a bad pick.

 

Here's three draft sites' analysis of him:

 

runs crisp routes and possesses good hands

 

Is inconsistent catching the ball and does not have great natural hands

 

With more reps he should be able to become more consistent catching the football and running his routes.

 

Crisp routes!? That certainly can't be correct about DHB.

 

Yeah, NFL Draft U is the most positive I've seen about DHB. They seem to love him and rate his hands and route running much better than others - I wonder what they're seeing that others aren't.

[dew1679666265]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

[Balsa]

Heyward-Bey would be a brutal pick.

 

Why do you think that?

 

He really doesn't have good hands, and we don't need ANOTHER fast WR who can't catch. Sure he has a lot of potential, but I think it'd be a terrible first round pick when there will surely be better bets at other positions of need available.

I agree completely. I'd much rather see Hakeem Nicks.

[Magnetic Curses]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

 

yes, i think it should.

[dew1679666265]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

 

yes, i think it should.

 

It should make them more careful when evaluating players with similar skill sets, but it should not necessarily keep them from drafting very talented players.

[Magnetic Curses]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

 

yes, i think it should.

 

It should make them more careful when evaluating players with similar skill sets, but it should not necessarily keep them from drafting very talented players.

 

perhaps, but i'm staying away from receivers in the first round altogether. unless there's a calvin johnson available at 18, which is impossible, i'll pass. i think the bears' problem is that they could only give orton enough time to make two reads, if he had more time, he would be better, and make his receivers look better.

 

but anyway, i, personally, take a guy who can get after the passer in the first round because we have none of those.

[dew1679666265]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

 

yes, i think it should.

 

It should make them more careful when evaluating players with similar skill sets, but it should not necessarily keep them from drafting very talented players.

 

perhaps, but i'm staying away from receivers in the first round altogether. unless there's a calvin johnson available at 18, which is impossible, i'll pass. i think the bears' problem is that they could only give orton enough to make two reads, if he had more time, he would be better, and make his receivers look better.

 

but anyway, i, personally, take a guy who can get after the passer in the first round because we have none of those.

 

I don't disagree at all that the Bears would have greater needs in the first round than a WR or DHB specifically. I think Ayers or one of the top tackles would probably be their best pick anyway.

 

I just didn't agree with the idea that because Troy Williamson didn't develop that DHB is less likely to develop.

[Magnetic Curses]

this guy has troy williamson written all over him.

 

Always possible. Past failures shouldn't make a team gunshy, though.

 

yes, i think it should.

 

It should make them more careful when evaluating players with similar skill sets, but it should not necessarily keep them from drafting very talented players.

 

perhaps, but i'm staying away from receivers in the first round altogether. unless there's a calvin johnson available at 18, which is impossible, i'll pass. i think the bears' problem is that they could only give orton enough to make two reads, if he had more time, he would be better, and make his receivers look better.

 

but anyway, i, personally, take a guy who can get after the passer in the first round because we have none of those.

 

I don't disagree at all that the Bears would have greater needs in the first round than a WR or DHB specifically. I think Ayers or one of the top tackles would probably be their best pick anyway.

 

I just didn't agree with the idea that because Troy Williamson didn't develop that DHB is less likely to develop.

 

i think you've probably agreed with that idea before, concerning some other player, most probably.

 

i could be wrong, though.

[Flames24Rulz]

i didn't see this posted anywhere, but the bears open the season at green bay on sunday night football.

 

That should be fun. I'm expecting you guys to win though because I don't think the Bears have ever lost on SNF and I don't think the Packers have ever won on SNF. Not to mention besides that ridiculous fluke of a game last year in Green Bay, you guys have had our number at Lambeau ever since Lovie became head coach.

[NCCubFan]

Editorial plea to Angelo from the Suntimes on Cutler:

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hayes/1491096,hayes-bears-cutler-letter-032309.article

 

Quoted for hilarity and for Truthiness:

 

"Did you know, Jerry, that generations of Chicago kids have grown up not realizing that quarterback ratings go higher than 70.0? You see them in parks and backyards across the region emulating their heroes by throwing wobbly passes and practicing hand-offs."

 

God, is that ever the truth. I only really started following the team closely at the beginning of the Harbaugh era, and it has been mediocrity at QB the entire time. You'd think at some point Angelo would at least blindly stumble his way into acquiring a good QB, but no. I'm trying to think of another team that has spent the last 20 years without having had a good-great QB at any point during, but I am having a hard time.

 

Quit complaining. I grew up in the Bob Avellini era.

 

Quit complaining, yourself. I grew up in the Bobby Douglass era. :grin:

I remember when the quarterback battles were Douglass vs. Jack Concannon and Avellini vs. Gary Huff. I also remember Douglass trying to make it as a pitcher in the White Sox organization after his football career ended.

[UMFan83]

i didn't see this posted anywhere, but the bears open the season at green bay on sunday night football.

 

That should be fun. I'm expecting you guys to win though because I don't think the Bears have ever lost on SNF and I don't think the Packers have ever won on SNF. Not to mention besides that ridiculous fluke of a game last year in Green Bay, you guys have had our number at Lambeau ever since Lovie became head coach.

 

We do win a lot on Sunday Night Football, but off the top of my head, I remember losing to the Cowboys in 2007 on SNF as the torch for the NFC was supposedly passed to Dallas. We also lost to your Packers in week 17 of the 2006 season and the Vikings just this past season.

 

 

In recent years, I can remember these SNF wins:

 

05 vs. Atlanta

06 vs. Seattle

06 @ Giants

07 @ Green Bay

08 vs. Philadelphia

08 @ Colts

 

So 6-3, which I guess is good, but hardly undefeated.

[Soul]

Editorial plea to Angelo from the Suntimes on Cutler:

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hayes/1491096,hayes-bears-cutler-letter-032309.article

 

Quoted for hilarity and for Truthiness:

 

"Did you know, Jerry, that generations of Chicago kids have grown up not realizing that quarterback ratings go higher than 70.0? You see them in parks and backyards across the region emulating their heroes by throwing wobbly passes and practicing hand-offs."

 

God, is that ever the truth. I only really started following the team closely at the beginning of the Harbaugh era, and it has been mediocrity at QB the entire time. You'd think at some point Angelo would at least blindly stumble his way into acquiring a good QB, but no. I'm trying to think of another team that has spent the last 20 years without having had a good-great QB at any point during, but I am having a hard time.

 

Quit complaining. I grew up in the Bob Avellini era.

 

Quit complaining, yourself. I grew up in the Bobby Douglass era. :grin:

I remember when the quarterback battles were Douglass vs. Jack Concannon and Avellini vs. Gary Huff. I also remember Douglass trying to make it as a pitcher in the White Sox organization after his football career ended.

 

I remember praying Vince Evans would be put in so I wouldn't have to hear my Dad shout obscenities over another Avellini pass thrown at the WR's feet.

 

Yeah. It's been pretty bad. :cool:

[biittner77]

I seem to remember another QB that was competing with Avellini and Evans before they drafted McMahon. I think he wound up playing for Cleveland after he left the Bears. Anyone know who I'm talking about? To save time its not Tomczak or slingin' dummy Harbaugh.

 

edit: it was Mike Phipps and the Bears traded their #1 to Cleveland for him.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Steve Fuller anyone?