2009 Chicago Bears offseason

[dew1679666265]

(119) Chicago Bears Captain Munnerlyn* DC South Carolina

 

What the heck is a DC? Is that supposed to be DB?

 

Apparently. He's a cornerback, so maybe it stands for defensive corner? Or it might be a typo.

[jersey cubs fan]

(119) Chicago Bears Captain Munnerlyn* DC South Carolina

 

What the heck is a DC? Is that supposed to be DB?

 

Defensive Center?

 

There's no such position.

 

The player mentioned is a CB, I don't know if that's supposed to be DB or CB.

[Banedon]

I guess I should've looked the guy up before I replied :P

[Soul]

I guess I should've looked the guy up before I replied :P

 

No, it's defensive coordinator. The Bears will be drafting him to be the eventual Lovie replacement as DC :P

[Banedon]

Former Chicago Bears defensive lineman William "The Refrigerator" Perry was in serious condition at a South Carolina hospital, a spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

 

Perry, 46, was hospitalized to deal with complications from Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a chronic inflammation disorder of the peripheral nerves, the Chicago Sun-Times and Chicago Tribune reported.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/21/perry.hospitalized.ap/index.html

[Jehrico]

(119) Chicago Bears Captain Munnerlyn* DC South Carolina

 

What the heck is a DC? Is that supposed to be DB?

 

Defensive Center?

 

There's no such position.

 

The player mentioned is a CB, I don't know if that's supposed to be DB or CB.

Maybe he likes being brief and redundant at the same time, and DC is short for DCB.

[Guest]

(119) Chicago Bears Captain Munnerlyn* DC South Carolina

 

What the heck is a DC? Is that supposed to be DB?

 

Apparently. He's a cornerback, so maybe it stands for defensive corner? Or it might be a typo.

 

That's got to be a typo for DB.

[dew1679666265]

(119) Chicago Bears Captain Munnerlyn* DC South Carolina

 

What the heck is a DC? Is that supposed to be DB?

 

Apparently. He's a cornerback, so maybe it stands for defensive corner? Or it might be a typo.

 

That's got to be a typo for DB.

 

That would be the most logical solution.

[cubweiser03]

Kiper and McShay's mocks both have Nicks and Britt selected between 25-30. Im not sold on DWilliams as a receiver, especially as Hesters compliment. The guy i like is FS Rashad Johnson. Ive seen that dude play a couple games and he jumps out at you. He doesnt have the all 'athletic tools' has but he most importantly he knows where to be and sees the field. Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder, i think Rashad is a lot like Brown as far as what you see him do on the football field. Its not like Rashad is totally unathletic either, hes plenty fast enough for a FS. This guys starts immediately wherever he goes and isnt a project.

[Butterscup1679666578]

damn both in the 1st round, really? i just can't see that. maybe one, but not both

[dew1679666265]

damn both in the 1st round, really? i just can't see that. maybe one, but not both

 

Nicks to the Colts, Britt to the Giants. Or Britt to the Giants, Nicks to the Titans.

 

Not sure how likely, but I can see it.

[rawaction]

Kiper and McShay's mocks both have Nicks and Britt selected between 25-30. Im not sold on DWilliams as a receiver, especially as Hesters compliment. The guy i like is FS Rashad Johnson. Ive seen that dude play a couple games and he jumps out at you. He doesnt have the all 'athletic tools' has but he most importantly he knows where to be and sees the field. Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder, i think Rashad is a lot like Brown as far as what you see him do on the football field. Its not like Rashad is totally unathletic either, hes plenty fast enough for a FS. This guys starts immediately wherever he goes and isnt a project.

 

I like Rashad Johnson too. Bullocks is likely to be a complete disaster again, just like he was in NO. Johnson has a lot of experience and is a very smart player who can start right away.

 

As for those WRs, I think alot depends on the Edwards/Giants trade. That could take a team out of the WR hunt. I still think this year will be like most years where WRs will slip in the draft. A lot of people are assuming Crabtree to Cleveland if they get rid of Braylon, but I don't see him going until the Raiders at the earliest. I think Maclin slides some and maybe stays on the board til the teens or even early 20s. If Seattle and Cleveland pass on Crabtree, I don't think there's a guarantee the Raiders or Jags go WR that early. Even if one of them does, there's not another team that needs a WR until the Eagles at 21.

 

Of course, all 4 of those teams mentioned could take a WR in the early 2nd along w/ the Colts, Ravens, or Giants in late Rd 1.

[jersey cubs fan]

Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder,

 

Really? A reach? I thought I remember that pick being praised from the beginning. I thought he was considered something like 1st round football ability but slipped only because of a perceived lack of athleticism. Maybe that's just my memory in hindsight, but I have vague recollections of a generally upbeat response to that selection while seeing some video of him at Nebraska.

[jersey cubs fan]

As for those WRs, I think alot depends on the Edwards/Giants trade. That could take a team out of the WR hunt. I still think this year will be like most years where WRs will slip in the draft.

 

If that is not the case, and there is a run on receivers, I hope Angelo doesn't get desperate and overdraft a guy in his spot. If you have to take the 8th or 9th best player at a position that early in the draft, you're probably reaching. They still need help in other places.

 

If there is a run on receivers, and offensive lineman start to slip, I would still like to see them take somebody to provide further depth, and insurance against the very significant possibility that Orlando Pace doesn't last the season, let alone into next season.

[Soul]

Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder,

 

Really? A reach? I thought I remember that pick being praised from the beginning. I thought he was considered something like 1st round football ability but slipped only because of a perceived lack of athleticism. Maybe that's just my memory in hindsight, but I have vague recollections of a generally upbeat response to that selection while seeing some video of him at Nebraska.

 

I don't remember him being a reach at all. One of his coaches called him the smartest football player he'd ever seen coming out of Nebraska. Back in those days, it actually meant something.

[Guest]

Former Chicago Bears defensive lineman William "The Refrigerator" Perry was in serious condition at a South Carolina hospital, a spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

 

Perry, 46, was hospitalized to deal with complications from Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a chronic inflammation disorder of the peripheral nerves, the Chicago Sun-Times and Chicago Tribune reported.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/21/perry.hospitalized.ap/index.html

 

I completely missed this post and just heard this news last night. GBS is horrible. I have a dear friend of mine who suffered from this about 3 years ago and she still has no feeling in her hands and feet. She spent months in the hospital and had to learn to do everything all over again. This girl might weigh 100 pounds soaking wet. A man of Perry's size may have an even bigger hurdle to climb.

 

The good news for my friend is that she can finally drive again now, although she still can't work. She seems to be back to living a normal life, though.

[WrigleyField 22]

Kiper and McShay's mocks both have Nicks and Britt selected between 25-30. Im not sold on DWilliams as a receiver, especially as Hesters compliment. The guy i like is FS Rashad Johnson. Ive seen that dude play a couple games and he jumps out at you. He doesnt have the all 'athletic tools' has but he most importantly he knows where to be and sees the field. Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder, i think Rashad is a lot like Brown as far as what you see him do on the football field. Its not like Rashad is totally unathletic either, hes plenty fast enough for a FS. This guys starts immediately wherever he goes and isnt a project.

I like Johnson too, but think he is too much of a reach at 49 and won't be around at 99.

 

It will depend on what else is there. DL and WR are in play still.

[rawaction]

As for those WRs, I think alot depends on the Edwards/Giants trade. That could take a team out of the WR hunt. I still think this year will be like most years where WRs will slip in the draft.

 

If that is not the case, and there is a run on receivers, I hope Angelo doesn't get desperate and overdraft a guy in his spot. If you have to take the 8th or 9th best player at a position that early in the draft, you're probably reaching. They still need help in other places.

 

If there is a run on receivers, and offensive lineman start to slip, I would still like to see them take somebody to provide further depth, and insurance against the very significant possibility that Orlando Pace doesn't last the season, let alone into next season.

 

Agreed. And actually, unless one of the top 6 WRs is on the board (Britt, Nicks, or Harvin are most likely to fall to 49), then they should NOT pick a WR. I like Iglesias out of OU a lot, but not at 49. I think a WR with more upside will be there at 99 anyway. And like you said, I'd rather get the 2nd best FS, 5th best DE, 3rd best DT or 5th best OL, over the #8-9 WR.

[Soul]

As for those WRs, I think alot depends on the Edwards/Giants trade. That could take a team out of the WR hunt. I still think this year will be like most years where WRs will slip in the draft.

 

If that is not the case, and there is a run on receivers, I hope Angelo doesn't get desperate and overdraft a guy in his spot. If you have to take the 8th or 9th best player at a position that early in the draft, you're probably reaching. They still need help in other places.

 

If there is a run on receivers, and offensive lineman start to slip, I would still like to see them take somebody to provide further depth, and insurance against the very significant possibility that Orlando Pace doesn't last the season, let alone into next season.

 

Agreed. And actually, unless one of the top 6 WRs is on the board (Britt, Nicks, or Harvin are most likely to fall to 49), then they should NOT pick a WR. I like Iglesias out of OU a lot, but not at 49. I think a WR with more upside will be there at 99 anyway. And like you said, I'd rather get the 2nd best FS, 5th best DE, 3rd best DT or 5th best OL, over the #8-9 WR.

 

What about Murphy? He's a guy with very solid physical skills who should be there.

[rawaction]

Kiper and McShay's mocks both have Nicks and Britt selected between 25-30. Im not sold on DWilliams as a receiver, especially as Hesters compliment. The guy i like is FS Rashad Johnson. Ive seen that dude play a couple games and he jumps out at you. He doesnt have the all 'athletic tools' has but he most importantly he knows where to be and sees the field. Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder, i think Rashad is a lot like Brown as far as what you see him do on the football field. Its not like Rashad is totally unathletic either, hes plenty fast enough for a FS. This guys starts immediately wherever he goes and isnt a project.

I like Johnson too, but think he is too much of a reach at 49 and won't be around at 99.

 

It will depend on what else is there. DL and WR are in play still.

 

I don't think he's a huge reach. Everyone that's gonna be there at 49 is going to have some question marks. I could see Johnson going anywhere from 45 to 85. At this point, I'm really rooting for a DLman to slip.

[dew1679666265]

As for those WRs, I think alot depends on the Edwards/Giants trade. That could take a team out of the WR hunt. I still think this year will be like most years where WRs will slip in the draft.

 

If that is not the case, and there is a run on receivers, I hope Angelo doesn't get desperate and overdraft a guy in his spot. If you have to take the 8th or 9th best player at a position that early in the draft, you're probably reaching. They still need help in other places.

 

If there is a run on receivers, and offensive lineman start to slip, I would still like to see them take somebody to provide further depth, and insurance against the very significant possibility that Orlando Pace doesn't last the season, let alone into next season.

 

Agreed. And actually, unless one of the top 6 WRs is on the board (Britt, Nicks, or Harvin are most likely to fall to 49), then they should NOT pick a WR. I like Iglesias out of OU a lot, but not at 49. I think a WR with more upside will be there at 99 anyway. And like you said, I'd rather get the 2nd best FS, 5th best DE, 3rd best DT or 5th best OL, over the #8-9 WR.

 

What about Murphy? He's a guy with very solid physical skills who should be there.

 

I think Louis Murphy would be a solid value at 49.

[Jehrico]

Not necessarily pertinent to us, but Giants are out of the Edwards talks...

 

http://clarkjudge.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6384866/14650617

 

Edwards would be a good buy-low candidate, but apparently the Browns aren't interested in selling low based on his last season.

[Banedon]

There's no way the Bears are gonna be trading for any more players this offseason...not big name ones anyway. They spent a ton on Cutler...I think they'll take their chances with the draft and maybe some free agents at this point.

[Soul]

Not necessarily pertinent to us, but Giants are out of the Edwards talks...

 

http://clarkjudge.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6384866/14650617

 

Edwards would be a good buy-low candidate, but apparently the Browns aren't interested in selling low based on his last season.

 

The Browns are crazy if they think they're going to get top dollar for a receiver who is one more subpar season away from being declared a bust.

 

They're selling low, whether they like it or not.

[cubweiser03]

Mike Brown didnt have the measurables either and was considered a reach when the Bears drafted him as their 2nd rounder,

 

Really? A reach? I thought I remember that pick being praised from the beginning. I thought he was considered something like 1st round football ability but slipped only because of a perceived lack of athleticism. Maybe that's just my memory in hindsight, but I have vague recollections of a generally upbeat response to that selection while seeing some video of him at Nebraska.

 

I don't remember him being a reach at all. One of his coaches called him the smartest football player he'd ever seen coming out of Nebraska. Back in those days, it actually meant something.

 

Brown was second safety taken in that draft and i dont think he was rated that high by scouts. It wasnt a fall off your rocker reach like Daniel Manning but i seem to remember at least a few second guessers. Yeah everything i saw on his highlights made me pretty excited about that pick at that time too. One position that im not overly concerned about measurables is the S position if they can make plays. Rashad and M.Brown made plays. B. Biggs of the Sun-Times says Angelos and the Bears like Rashad.