Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[17 Seconds]

I have no idea what The Logan is attempting to do.

 

However, BP doesn't seem to have much difference in Lee in 07 and 08. If you put any stock in WARP3, Lee rated at 7.8 in 07 and 7.4 in 08.

 

SLAM!

 

umm, actually he wasn't agreeing with you

[imb]

I have no idea what The Logan is attempting to do.

 

However, BP doesn't seem to have much difference in Lee in 07 and 08. If you put any stock in WARP3, Lee rated at 7.8 in 07 and 7.4 in 08.

 

SLAM!

 

when the top level is 7.8, 0.4 is a significant portion

[Clem Fandango]

I have no idea what The Logan is attempting to do.

 

However, BP doesn't seem to have much difference in Lee in 07 and 08. If you put any stock in WARP3, Lee rated at 7.8 in 07 and 7.4 in 08.

 

SLAM!

 

umm, actually he wasn't agreeing with you

 

BOOYA!

[17 Seconds]

I have no idea what The Logan is attempting to do.

 

However, BP doesn't seem to have much difference in Lee in 07 and 08. If you put any stock in WARP3, Lee rated at 7.8 in 07 and 7.4 in 08.

 

SLAM!

 

when the top level is 7.8, 0.4 is a significant portion

 

slam

[17 Seconds]

i'm actually pretty sure he's just messing with us and trying to stir things up, but still. annoying.

[anabiono]

thanks for the laugh guys!

 

bOOya!

[17 Seconds]

thanks for the laugh guys!

 

bOOya!

 

SLAM!

[17 Seconds]

By the way.. just for fun

 

VORP for Lee

 

07- 30.4

08- 48.6

[Clem Fandango]

I was half joking, I was being serious about his production numbers, and I think that there's not a big deal to be made between 2007 and 2008. The whole "It would be unfortunate if Hoffpauir put up 2008 Lee stats" is not really that unfortunate, IMO. In fact I would be very satisfied if a rookie, regardless of age, put up those numbers his first full year in the bigs.

 

I was jackalacking around with the extra AB tirade, though. Although now I'm trying to look up some gamelog info, just so I can stick it to the masses (I'm not going to find what I'm looking for, don't worry)

[17 Seconds]

The thing about Lee's 08 is that it's even worse than it looks on paper. The only reason his numbers even look remotely decent is because he has that freakish April. I know you can take out a chunk of at-bats for most players and it would make their season look a lot worse, but when you have a .790 OPS for the last 5 months of the season that's pretty much who you were that year

[Clem Fandango]

That plus his GIDP was unquestionably one of the worst things about his 2008

 

EDIT: Let's stop talking about Derrek Lee in the Peavy thread before it gets derailed :)

[cubsfan26]

The Cubs payroll is around 140m, but if we trade Wuertz and Cotts it could be around 138m. So say the payroll will be around 145m(heard between 140-150m), that gives us around 7m to spend. Then if we can somehow trade Marquis and get at least 5.5-6m of his contract off the books, that would give us around 13m. After that the only guy who makes sense to trade and clear some payroll is Mark DeRosa(5.5m in 09).

 

 

Maybe DeRosa will get you a good prospect you can use in a deal for Peavy, and it would also give you some payroll room. We can use Fontenot at second vs RH pitching, and maybe sign a veteran like Mark Grudzielanek, Mark Loretta or Rich Aurilia cheap to play with Fontenot. So getting rid of a chunk of Marquis salary, then DeRosa salary could give us some payroll room. Then if ownership gives us a small payroll bump(say 148-150 instead of 145). Then I think we can pull off getting a good RF and Peavy. I'm just saying it's easier to replace DeRosa production with Fontenot and a veteran in a platoon, then finding a cheap replacement for Lee, and not losing too much production.

[Blue W]

The good news is tha it only took 14 pages for this Peavy thread to derail. Thank you for sparing me.

[Backtobanks]

The Cubs payroll is around 140m, but if we trade Wuertz and Cotts it could be around 138m. So say the payroll will be around 145m(heard between 140-150m), that gives us around 7m to spend. Then if we can somehow trade Marquis and get at least 5.5-6m of his contract off the books, that would give us around 13m. After that the only guy who makes sense to trade and clear some payroll is Mark DeRosa(5.5m in 09).

 

 

Maybe DeRosa will get you a good prospect you can use in a deal for Peavy, and it would also give you some payroll room. We can use Fontenot at second vs RH pitching, and maybe sign a veteran like Mark Grudzielanek, Mark Loretta or Rich Aurilia cheap to play with Fontenot. So getting rid of a chunk of Marquis salary, then DeRosa salary could give us some payroll room. Then if ownership gives us a small payroll bump(say 148-150 instead of 145). Then I think we can pull off getting a good RF and Peavy. I'm just saying it's easier to replace DeRosa production with Fontenot and a veteran in a platoon, then finding a cheap replacement for Lee, and not losing too much production.

 

As much as I would love to add Peavy, we now have posters suggesting we trade Lee, DeRosa, Wuertz, and Cotts which would open at least 3 new holes on the team.

Assuming Marshall is part of a deal, the Cubs would have no lefties in the bullpen with the trade of Cotts. Hoffpauir has a possible future as a pinch hitter/DH, but not as a starter. As for DeRosa, he quite possibly was our 3rd MVP on the team. Let's not forget that the rotation goes into 2009 better than the 2008 rotation which lead the Cubs to over 90 wins. If we can acquire Peavy using spare parts and prospects, fine. If not, move on and fill the other holes on the team.

[PrimeTime]

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that Jake Peavy "has created the impression" to friends that he'd prefer to be traded to the Cubs.

 

"We're still talking to the Cubs," general manager Kevin Towers said. "They may have to redo some things."

 

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

[JeffH]

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that Jake Peavy "has created the impression" to friends that he'd prefer to be traded to the Cubs.

 

"We're still talking to the Cubs," general manager Kevin Towers said. "They may have to redo some things."

 

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

 

Jake Peavy is very, very dumb.

[inari]

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that Jake Peavy "has created the impression" to friends that he'd prefer to be traded to the Cubs.

 

"We're still talking to the Cubs," general manager Kevin Towers said. "They may have to redo some things."

 

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

 

Jake Peavy is very, very dumb.

 

What?

[C.C.]

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that Jake Peavy "has created the impression" to friends that he'd prefer to be traded to the Cubs.

 

"We're still talking to the Cubs," general manager Kevin Towers said. "They may have to redo some things."

 

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

 

Jake Peavy is very, very dumb.

 

SLAM?!?!?

[Tyrant]

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that Jake Peavy "has created the impression" to friends that he'd prefer to be traded to the Cubs.

 

"We're still talking to the Cubs," general manager Kevin Towers said. "They may have to redo some things."

 

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

 

Jake Peavy is very, very dumb.

 

We get it. You hate the Cubs. Find something new to talk about.

[Tedward]

Just thinking out loud, but if the Cubs were to acquire Peavy, wouldn't we then have to move Marquis?

 

Good luck to Hendry in making that happen.

 

What if we traded our resident head case pitcher with the NTC clause and get the impact bat back for RF that we need.

 

Peavy, Dempster, Lilly, Harden & Marquis is still a darned good staff.

[anabiono]

Just thinking out loud, but if the Cubs were to acquire Peavy, wouldn't we then have to move Marquis?

 

Good luck to Hendry in making that happen.

 

What if we traded our resident head case pitcher with the NTC clause and get the impact bat back for RF that we need.

 

Peavy, Dempster, Lilly, Harden & Marquis is still a darned good staff.

 

uh oh...you just did it

 

i say we trade Z to the yanks and get back hughes

 

then get peavy

 

i love the Z, but he is frustrating...

 

naw...i really don't know about that...he has actually been our only good pitcher in the playoffs two years running now

[mopapa]

Just thinking out loud, but if the Cubs were to acquire Peavy, wouldn't we then have to move Marquis?

 

Good luck to Hendry in making that happen.

 

What if we traded our resident head case pitcher with the NTC clause and get the impact bat back for RF that we need.

 

Peavy, Dempster, Lilly, Harden & Marquis is still a darned good staff.

 

I like the way you think. That way, when the head case has his inevitable meltdown (head or arm, take your pick), he won't be a Cub. I like. Unfortunately, I imagine he's an "untouchable" in management's eyes, wouldn't you think?

[UMFan83]

10:29am: SI.com's Jon Heyman talked to Peavy's agent, Barry Axelrod. Peavy hasn't revised his original list of five teams, but Axelrod says the NL West would interest Peavy (aside from the Rockies). So, maybe Giants fans have something new to speculate about. Axelrod says the list was only guidance for Towers.

[CubinNY]

Just thinking out loud, but if the Cubs were to acquire Peavy, wouldn't we then have to move Marquis?

 

Good luck to Hendry in making that happen.

 

What if we traded our resident head case pitcher with the NTC clause and get the impact bat back for RF that we need.

 

Peavy, Dempster, Lilly, Harden & Marquis is still a darned good staff.

Marquis has value to a team that needs a bottom of the rotation starter and isn't strapped for cash. That leaves out a lot of teams though.

 

I'd think he'd be on the block for the third team.

 

I'm thinking nothing is going to get done with Peavey until the free agency period gets sorted out. If the Yankees or another contending team needs another starter and they have some mid level minor league starting pitching that is pretty good that may be the Ménage à trois the Cubs need.

[anabiono]

Just thinking out loud, but if the Cubs were to acquire Peavy, wouldn't we then have to move Marquis?

 

Good luck to Hendry in making that happen.

 

What if we traded our resident head case pitcher with the NTC clause and get the impact bat back for RF that we need.

 

Peavy, Dempster, Lilly, Harden & Marquis is still a darned good staff.

Marquis has value to a team that needs a bottom of the rotation starter and isn't strapped for cash. That leaves out a lot of teams though.

 

I'd think he'd be on the block for the third team.

 

I'm thinking nothing is going to get done with Peavey until the free agency period gets sorted out. If the Yankees or another contending team needs another starter and they have some mid level minor league starting pitching that is pretty good that may be the Ménage à trois the Cubs need.

 

i don't agree with you on much, but i do think it will take the pitching market thinning out before peavy goes anywhere