Week 10: Titans at BEARS, noon (CT) on CBS

[burnt out cubbie fan]

What were your guys thoughts on Grossman? Granted he was rushed a lot, but I saw nothing out of him that gave me any hope he could be a starting QB for the Bears. Today's game validates the Kyle Orton love. He is a good QB.

 

On two drives Rex was 11 for 13 for ~ 125 yards. The rest of the day, he was 9 for 24 with 1 INT for ~50 yards. I wonder.

 

:-k

 

It's funny. I'm in Mexico right now, but luckily Fox Sports Mexico showed the game, so I watched the first TD drive where he looked good, then went out to the beach for the next 2 hours. I then came back and watched the last 3 Bears drives where they missed a FG, scored a TD, and then turned it over on downs. I pretty much only watched good Rex today.

That's not funny. I hate you.

[cubweiser03]

This defense is flat out whacked. They freaking dominate the line of scrimmage and blow run plays up but get nothing upfront when it comes to a pass rush. Its like 4 guys doing a bull rush, Alex Brown has no moves or speed rush anymore it seems. The pass coverage and schemes are a joke too. They get people on third and long so many times and sit in a soft zone and then get picked apart. I swear id rather have them 3rd and 2 than 3rd and 7+. This team was #1 on third downs but yet they seem to give up so many 3rd and longs. Pass defense, FIX IT.

 

Lance Briggs is a bad ass.

[Banedon]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

[cubweiser03]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

[Keener98]

The sooner Nathan Vasher gets off the field the better. Our secondary is a joke.

[Careless]

Biggest difference between the quality of rush defense and pass defense ever? Edited November 10, 2008 by Careless

[Guest]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

JA is so going after a DE in the first round next April.

[Wilson A2000]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

Tommie happened. All those guys benefited from Harris. When he is hurt or playing bad the Cover-2 will not work because most of the pressure is supposed to come from the front four. Tommie doesn't have to be double teamed as often, so the other guys on the line have no shot. No one except Tommie is good enough to defeat a double team. The DBs were not great, but when you have all day to throw even the best will get picked apart. Even against well below average receivers.

[Rusch33]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

JA is so going after a DE in the first round next April.

 

I think the Bears need to draft a guy who can stretch the field for Orton. Jeremy Maclin? Michael Crabtree? Percy Harvin?

[rawaction]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

JA is so going after a DE in the first round next April.

 

I think the Bears need to draft a guy who can stretch the field for Orton. Jeremy Maclin? Michael Crabtree? Percy Harvin?

 

1. Devin Hester and Earl Bennett can stretch the field

2. Orton isn't a stretch the field type of QB.

3. The Bears won't be bad enough to draft Crabtree, because he's going in the top 5.

4. The Bears scored 28 ppg w/ Orton, do you really think stretching the field is a problem?

[Banedon]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

Tommie happened. All those guys benefited from Harris. When he is hurt or playing bad the Cover-2 will not work because most of the pressure is supposed to come from the front four. Tommie doesn't have to be double teamed as often, so the other guys on the line have no shot. No one except Tommie is good enough to defeat a double team. The DBs were not great, but when you have all day to throw even the best will get picked apart. Even against well below average receivers.

 

Actually I thought Alex Brown has been one of the more productive D lineman, though usually it's been getting in the backfield and stopping the run more than getting pressure on the QB.

 

At least we know that Orton will be back, and the offense will be ok. The pass rush has to be solved. It's making our secondary look terrible (or at least worse than they are.)

[wekse]

if orton plays the bears win, i'm convinced of this.

[jersey cubs fan]

Rex had some bad throws, but given he is the backup that is to be expected.

 

Today I'm pissed at Hester for contributing significantly to horrible field position. Vasher for doing nothing of value. The defensive coaches and/or whoever should have been defending against play action when play action was freaking obviously coming on the last drive. Lovie/Turner/Grossman for not realizing that being down 14 with 9 to go they were in 4 down territory and should have tried to pick up 5-7 on 3rd down and go for it on 4th. I think it was 3rd and 11 and they foolishly tried to get all 11 on one play, something Rex was not doing all game. You take what you can get there then try and convert a short 4th down. Kicking a field goal was asinine, as you still need 2 scores to win even if you make the FG.

 

Unlike the previous losses, I'm not going to say that was a "should have won" game, but knowing they had to play nearly perfect to pull it off, they made far too many mental mistakes.

[BigbadB]

I know this probably wasn't the ideal team for Grossman to have to make his first start in a long while against, but he basically sealed his fate with this game. I'm so ready to move on.

 

He looked really bad for most of this game. But, no play was worse than the 4th down throw to Hester. He telegraphed that play from the moment he received the ball. He might as well have called an audible that shouted "23, I'm throwing the ball to 23, 23, hut, hut, hike".

[Guest]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

JA is so going after a DE in the first round next April.

 

I think the Bears need to draft a guy who can stretch the field for Orton. Jeremy Maclin? Michael Crabtree? Percy Harvin?

 

1. Devin Hester and Earl Bennett can stretch the field

2. Orton isn't a stretch the field type of QB.

3. The Bears won't be bad enough to draft Crabtree, because he's going in the top 5.

4. The Bears scored 28 ppg w/ Orton, do you really think stretching the field is a problem?

 

I wouldn't mind another weapon at WR (esp since we're not sure what Earl Bennett can provide) but I think the offensive line and the always ambiguous "defensive playmaker" should be the priority. Crabtree has to be a lock for top 5 at this point.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wouldn't mind another weapon at WR (esp since we're not sure what Earl Bennett can provide) but I think the offensive line and the always ambiguous "defensive playmaker" should be the priority. Crabtree has to be a lock for top 5 at this point.

 

It's looking more and more like defensive back is where they need the help. Payne has been a welcome addition, but Brown is washed up and neither Tillman nor Vasher young/healthy/good enough to be considered part of the strength of the team. Manning is well on his way to being a wasted draft pick. I'd take a true defensive end stud if possible, but without a top draft pick you usually don't find those guys, rather teams often stumble across gems later on.

[rawaction]

What happened to last years Ogunleye? I liked him.

I did too. What happened to last years ABrown. What happened to rookie Mark Anderson.

Really and im serious, the pass rush from the interior (Harrison, I2, and the oft injured Tommie) produces more of a pass rush than the ends. I have more confidence in those 3 producing pressure/sacks than the ends.

 

JA is so going after a DE in the first round next April.

 

I think the Bears need to draft a guy who can stretch the field for Orton. Jeremy Maclin? Michael Crabtree? Percy Harvin?

 

1. Devin Hester and Earl Bennett can stretch the field

2. Orton isn't a stretch the field type of QB.

3. The Bears won't be bad enough to draft Crabtree, because he's going in the top 5.

4. The Bears scored 28 ppg w/ Orton, do you really think stretching the field is a problem?

 

I wouldn't mind another weapon at WR (esp since we're not sure what Earl Bennett can provide) but I think the offensive line and the always ambiguous "defensive playmaker" should be the priority. Crabtree has to be a lock for top 5 at this point.

 

I wouldn't either. But not anywhere close to the 1st round. I would prioritize OL, DE, or safety before a WR. WR isn't as important to this offense w/ Forte and Olsen having WR like skills.

[Wilson A2000]

1. Devin Hester and Earl Bennett can stretch the field

2. Orton isn't a stretch the field type of QB.

 

For the first couple of games, Orton was not throwing a good deep ball. But he has improved remarkably since. Not he doesn't have a cannon of an arm and probably has a weaker arm than Rex, but I think he can stretch the field. He can throw the 30-40 yard pass.