Bobby Abreu anyone?

[SAMMYWHO]

Come on guys and gals, Abreu won a gold glove recently.

[nilodnayr]

Come on guys and gals, Abreu won a gold glove recently.

 

 

Sarcasm?

[beowulf28]

Milton Bradley anyone?

 

No thanks!

[SAMMYWHO]

Gold gloves are a joke, I thought everyone knew that, but I wouldn't mind Abreu, I wouldn't mind Kosuke sliding over to center to make room. I'm hoping he can bounce back like most others from his country.

[17 Seconds]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

[CubbieBum]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

[17 Seconds]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

 

This just in: Fontenot hits left handed.

 

Anyways, they hit righties just fine.

[CubbieBum]

If we are going to commit long term(3+years) and a decent amount of money(40 mil+) to a new RF'er, I would rather sign Dunn than Abreu. The defense would be close to the same but Dunn will likely produce more for the length of the contract also if we sign him to a 4-5 year deal he could be a replacement at 1B for Lee after his contract goes up in 2 years seeing as we really don't having 1B prospects(Hoffpauir will be 31-32 by then). The defense in RF may be a concern but we got by with Sammy out there, plus we could always use Pie/Johnson/Fuku as a defensive replacement in the late innings. Of available guy via trade/FA for RF my list would probably look like

 

1.Dunn

2.Giles

3.Ibanez

4.Dejesus

5.Bradley

6.Abreu

 

I'm fine with Dunn but two problems.

 

First where does he go in the lineup? He is a 3 or 4 hitter so do you move Lee to 2 and slide Dunn in at 3 or Ramirez at 3 and Dunn at 4? One of the things I liked most about Abreu is he is a perfect 2 hole hitter. He can steal when needed, has decent pop but not tons, and gets on base a lot meaning Lee and Ramirez bat with him in base.

 

Second. he will likely sign for more than the 3 for 40 mil rate I suggested. He will definately sign longer and $13.3 mil a year is about 4 or 5 mil short of what he will want. To get Dunn we would have to probably offer 7 years for the least $120 mil. I just can't see the Cubs offering that when Sori, Ramirez, and Zambrano all have huge contracts that last for a long time. Although I did read one article that Dunn said he will value winning more than money in his decision.

[Guest]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

[CubbieBum]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

[SouthSideRyan]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

 

WE JUST HAD THIS DAMN TOPIC AND PROVED THAT THE CUBS AREN'T ANY WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE AT HITTING GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TEAMS HIT GOOD STARTING PITCHING CONSISTENTLY??? NONE

 

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!!!!!

 

It's like people think there are teams out there that OPS 1200 against the best of the best and somehow don't score 1400 runs a season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Fontenot significantly outhit Abreu v. RHP last season.

[sneakypower]

if we're so sure Fontenot's a true 900 ops player then we oughta SELLSELLSELL high on Derosa this offseason

[YearofDaCubs]

Milton Bradley anyone?

I'd rather have Bradley over Abreu as well.

[wekse]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

 

WE JUST HAD THIS DAMN TOPIC AND PROVED THAT THE CUBS AREN'T ANY WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE AT HITTING GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TEAMS HIT GOOD STARTING PITCHING CONSISTENTLY??? NONE

 

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!!!!!

 

It's like people think there are teams out there that OPS 1200 against the best of the best and somehow don't score 1400 runs a season.

 

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

[Mephistopheles]

if we're so sure Fontenot's a true 900 ops player then we oughta SELLSELLSELL high on Derosa this offseason

 

im certain hes an 800 ops guy who can reach 850 in a good year.

[sneakypower]

then sellsellsell dero

[CubbieBum]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

 

WE JUST HAD THIS DAMN TOPIC AND PROVED THAT THE CUBS AREN'T ANY WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE AT HITTING GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TEAMS HIT GOOD STARTING PITCHING CONSISTENTLY??? NONE

 

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!!!!!

 

It's like people think there are teams out there that OPS 1200 against the best of the best and somehow don't score 1400 runs a season.

 

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

 

why **** are you posting my personal pictures especially when they serve no purpose whatsoever

 

mods I don't appreciate someone going onto facebook finding a pic of me and putting it on a thread for no reason

[imb]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

 

WE JUST HAD THIS DAMN TOPIC AND PROVED THAT THE CUBS AREN'T ANY WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE AT HITTING GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TEAMS HIT GOOD STARTING PITCHING CONSISTENTLY??? NONE

 

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!!!!!

 

It's like people think there are teams out there that OPS 1200 against the best of the best and somehow don't score 1400 runs a season.

 

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

 

why **** are you posting my personal pictures especially when they serve no purpose whatsoever

 

mods I don't appreciate someone going onto facebook finding a pic of me and putting it on a thread for no reason

 

you put it in the personal pictures thread

[17 Seconds]

if we're so sure Fontenot's a true 900 ops player then we oughta SELLSELLSELL high on Derosa this offseason

 

im certain hes an 800 ops guy who can reach 850 in a good year.

 

Yup. I see no point whatsoever in getting Abreu when Fontenot oculd likely match or surpass the production Abreu would give us next year.

[Mephistopheles]

cant we all just get along?

[Guest]

cant we all just get along?

:shock:

[weis21]

found this pic on facebook, is it relevant?

 

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2007/11/medium_20071102abreuM.jpg

[Guest]

Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team.

 

I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.

 

have you not seen the Cubs ineptitude at hitting good right handed pitchers enough

Team OPS versus right handed pitching:

 

1) St. Louis .796

2) Chicago Cubs: .793

 

There's a difference between right handed pitching overall and top right handed the pitchers (the type you face in the playoffs). Two straight years we have been swept because we couldn't hit very good right handed pitchers. And this just in Abreu is a much better hitter than Fontenot.

 

WE JUST HAD THIS DAMN TOPIC AND PROVED THAT THE CUBS AREN'T ANY WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE AT HITTING GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TEAMS HIT GOOD STARTING PITCHING CONSISTENTLY??? NONE

 

BECAUSE IT'S GOOD STARTING PITCHING!!!!!!

 

It's like people think there are teams out there that OPS 1200 against the best of the best and somehow don't score 1400 runs a season.

 

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

 

why **** are you posting my personal pictures especially when they serve no purpose whatsoever

 

mods I don't appreciate someone going onto facebook finding a pic of me and putting it on a thread for no reason

 

you put it in the personal pictures thread

 

His response was outstanding, though.

[CubbieBum]

if we're so sure Fontenot's a true 900 ops player then we oughta SELLSELLSELL high on Derosa this offseason

 

im certain hes an 800 ops guy who can reach 850 in a good year.

 

Yup. I see no point whatsoever in getting Abreu when Fontenot oculd likely match or surpass the production Abreu would give us next year.

 

Had forgotten I put my pic in that thread 6 months ago still see absolutely no reason why it was posted in this thread.

 

And saying Fontenot is likely to match Abreu's production is laughable. Fontenot is a good player but he isn't a Bobby Abreu (a guy who OPS's .850-900 and steals 20 bases). Fontenot is like Theriot to me (with a bit more power). He could hit .300 but isn't going to get much of anything else. He is the ultimate backup infielder. He's versatile and able to start 50 games a year very effectively but if he has to start 150 he will wear down and not be near as good. I support Theriot because he is the best we have but am well aware there are plenty better shortstops out there. I support Fontenot as well but I'm not blind enough to say he is equal to Bobby Abreu. If you can upgrade then upgrade.