Jake Peavy: Available.

[mordecaibrown]

I've heard from friends in San Diego(also San Diego sports radio reports) that the Padres want to build their ball club around speed. They are looking for a speedy major league ready centerfielder in return for Peavy(per Andy Masur on the SCORE yesterday) and are unwilling to take any salary in return.

 

The goal for San Diego is to build a speed lineup set around A.Gonzalez, so do the Cubs have the right parts in order to help the Padres achieve their goal?

Edited October 29, 2008 by mordecaibrown

[Rusch33]

Felix Pie, your table is set in San Diego. :D

[Outshined_One]

The goal for San Diego is to build a speed lineup set around E.Gonzalez, so do the Cubs have the right parts in order to help the Padres achieve their goal?

 

We've got a farm system stocked with athletic prospects who all have at least some speed to them. Pie is probably the fastest guy in the entire system. Cedeno has wheels. Guys like Sam Fuld, Tyler Colvin, Tony Thomas, and Brandon Guyer aren't afraid to steal a base. It's a bit hard to get a read on how fast some of these guys are since the Cubs don't have a SB-happy system, but they've definitely got guys who can fit that mold.

[mhuber92211]

According to MLB 2K8, Sam Fuld turns into the league's best CF withing 3 years

[nilodnayr]

According to MLB 2K8, Sam Fuld turns into the league's best CF withing 3 years

 

Well that must be where Hendry got the idea that Fuld should be untouchable.

[SouthSideRyan]

According to MLB 2K8, Sam Fuld turns into the league's best CF withing 3 years

 

Well that must be where Hendry got the idea that Fuld should be untouchable.

 

I just figured he had leprosy.

[Jehrico]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

[nilodnayr]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

 

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

 

Well evidently it worked because people immediately stopped talking about how we can get him for pennies on the dollar and that there was an ultimatum to trade him. We can't and there isnt. Buster pegged it at $50M and all other reports are saying $20M off 2008, which would be just over $50M, either way that still allows them to field a team with Peavy. Towers denied reports of a $40M payroll during the Giles trade debacle. Even if it was $30M off, they could still field a team with Peavy and get rid of Giles or Greene. I've shown you that they absolutely can fit Peavy and 24 other guys in $50M, you just chose to ignore it. I guess I should have put it in 200 point font.

 

Obviously the Padres are under a payroll contraint. That point is undeniable, but it is 100% absolutely false for people to think that it is impossible or even difficult for the Padres to field a 25 man roster with Peavy and stay within those payroll constraints.

[CP_414]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

 

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

 

Well evidently it worked because people immediately stopped talking about how we can get him for pennies on the dollar and that there was an ultimatum to trade him. We can't and there isnt. Buster pegged it at $50M and all other reports are saying $20M off 2008, which would be just over $50M, either way that still allows them to field a team with Peavy. Towers denied reports of a $40M payroll during the Giles trade debacle. Even if it was $30M off, they could still field a team with Peavy and get rid of Giles or Greene. I've shown you that they absolutely can fit Peavy and 24 other guys in $50M, you just chose to ignore it. I guess I should have put it in 200 point font.

 

Obviously the Padres are under a payroll contraint. That point is undeniable, but it is 100% absolutely false for people to think that it is impossible or even difficult for the Padres to field a 25 man roster with Peavy and stay within those payroll constraints.

 

I'm going to assume you are talking about me "immediatly stopping posting" once you used big font since you used my "pennies on the dollar phrase." Just to let you know, some people have jobs during the day that takes up their time and doesn't allow them to monitor internet message boards to see if someone replied to something they wrote by using really big font.

 

As far as the Peavy issue, we disagree. I think he will get traded, and the return will be less than you expect. We'll just have to see what happens. I'm going to go spend some time with my family now, so if I don't respond to what you write, I can assure you it has nothing to do with whatever font, bold, or italics you choose to use.

[RedFlash]

The goal for San Diego is to build a speed lineup set around E.Gonzalez, so do the Cubs have the right parts in order to help the Padres achieve their goal?

 

That can't be right. Edgar Gonzalez (I think they who I assume you are talking about) is a mediocre backup INF, who's biggest claim to fame is the fact the he is the big brother of Padres 1st baseman Adrian Gonzalez. So I assume the Padres are trying to build the team around ADRIAN, and not EDGAR Gonzalez.

[mordecaibrown]

The goal for San Diego is to build a speed lineup set around E.Gonzalez, so do the Cubs have the right parts in order to help the Padres achieve their goal?

 

That can't be right. Edgar Gonzalez (I think they who I assume you are talking about) is a mediocre backup INF, who's biggest claim to fame is the fact the he is the big brother of Padres 1st baseman Adrian Gonzalez. So I assume the Padres are trying to build the team around ADRIAN, and not EDGAR Gonzalez.

 

You are completely right, I must edit now...I am surprised no one else caught that enormous error :oops: thank you friend

[RedFlash]

The goal for San Diego is to build a speed lineup set around E.Gonzalez, so do the Cubs have the right parts in order to help the Padres achieve their goal?

 

That can't be right. Edgar Gonzalez (I think they who I assume you are talking about) is a mediocre backup INF, who's biggest claim to fame is the fact the he is the big brother of Padres 1st baseman Adrian Gonzalez. So I assume the Padres are trying to build the team around ADRIAN, and not EDGAR Gonzalez.

 

You are completely right, I must edit now...I am surprised no one else caught that enormous error :oops: thank you friend

 

No problem.

[Jehrico]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

 

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

 

Well evidently it worked because people immediately stopped talking about how we can get him for pennies on the dollar and that there was an ultimatum to trade him. We can't and there isnt. Buster pegged it at $50M and all other reports are saying $20M off 2008, which would be just over $50M, either way that still allows them to field a team with Peavy. Towers denied reports of a $40M payroll during the Giles trade debacle. Even if it was $30M off, they could still field a team with Peavy and get rid of Giles or Greene. I've shown you that they absolutely can fit Peavy and 24 other guys in $50M, you just chose to ignore it. I guess I should have put it in 200 point font.

 

Obviously the Padres are under a payroll contraint. That point is undeniable, but it is 100% absolutely false for people to think that it is impossible or even difficult for the Padres to field a 25 man roster with Peavy and stay within those payroll constraints.

First, people didn't stop talking about trading for Peavy because of your post. This threads been going for awhile now, is getting up there in pages, and is beginning to suffer from BRTII syndrome. Second, I didn't choose to ignore anything. It's not in any teams best interest to tie up a third of their payroll in one player. No one ever said it was impossible for them to keep Peavy and 24 other guys on the books. What you're obviously missing is that everyone thought everyone else understood that the team wouldn't want that high of a percentage of their payroll on one guy, and they would find it difficult justifying keeping someone in his salary class when they're cutting back everywhere else. You keep talking in extremes, but you're the only one. No one is saying they're going to do or not do anything for sure other than yourself. The only thing anyone else is saying is that they should be compelled (not absolutely, but to a degree) to move him for a variety of reasons. From a business perspective, they're taking a huge gamble if they keep Peavy. He had some arm problems this year, he has a long term contract, and he is taking up a huge percentage of their projected payroll. If he goes down this year with TJS, it would be a total utter disaster that would set their franchise back significantly, kind of like Albert Belle with the Orioles from 2001-2003. If he were on the DL for an extended period, they'd have a payroll of somewhere in the low to mid $30 millions with the figures you reported for the other 24 guys and his replacement. As far as anyone saying we can get him for peanuts, I agree with you on that one, they won't give him away for nothing. But if they can get maybe 70% (maybe more, maybe less) of what they would under more normal circumstances, I think they'd have to think real hard before turning it down.

[davearm2]

ML-ready speed and pitching, huh?

 

Seems to me the names in play would be Pie, Theriot, Marshall, Marmol, Gaudin, Ceda. Possibly Hill if they're into a reclamation project. Possibly Cedeno instead of Theriot. Possibly Greene coming back our way as a salary dump. Some fringey pitchers that could be sweeteners would include Wuertz Hart Guzman Cotts Atkins Veal.

 

For as good as Peavy is, those are some scary salary figures after '09. Granted he'd get that and more as a FA, but if a team was getting him as a FA, it wouldn't be costing them players on top of the $$$. I think that extension might suppress Peavy's trade value a bit, actually.

 

Using the Santana trade as a guideline might not be too far off here: Carlos Gomez and three minor league arms.

[haubrich91]

How about we try to just get Greene?

[BigbadB]

The writing was on the wall when the Padres decided to dabble Peavy in front of the market. Here is a guy who they just signed to an extension, which included a full no trade clause.

 

Does that mean they will trade him for pennies on the dollar? Of course not. But, they will more than likely trade him. Hendry is not one to try to rip off another GM. He will look at a fair package of players and it will be up to Towers/Moores to decide whether the package is good enough to move him.

 

There is most certainly good enough packages to make it happen. The question will be whether any of the other teams Peavy is willing to be traded to will offer up a better package for Peavy.

 

We have the players to get a trade done. Theriot, Pie, Marshall, Marmol and 1 or 2 prospects (Vitters/Adkins/Ceda/Colvin/Castillo/etc....)would most certainly be enough to get it done, especially if the Cubs were to take back even more contract than just Peavy. For example, Greene.

 

The Padres will be anticipating a tremendous drop in season tickets this season. The writing is on the wall. Between the economic challenges facing San Diego along with this very ugly divorce and the fans disappointment that the team is going into rebuild mode will not be pretty for this organization.

 

Count on Peavy getting traded. Even if it means sweet talking Peavy to be traded to Boston or New York.

 

The question for Hendry will be whether the 6 for 1 deal that will need to be offered is worth it in comparison to just resigning Dempster. Not to mention the other holes that might need to be filled.

 

Let's look at the package I proposed above:

 

Theriot: Cheap, speedy and productive (in the eyes of other GM's who don't value OPS)

Pie: A top prospect who can play CF well, is cheap for several years and has the speed the Padres are looking for

Marshall: A cheap lefty starter who can step into the rotation right now.

Marmol: A cheap, top reliever that can probably be converted back into a starter.

Prospects: Filler that has the potential to help the team down the road.

 

The original rumor was a speedy talented CF and two starters for the rotation.

 

I'm sure the Padres would rather have a package that included something along the lines of Cameron Maybin, Chris Volstad and Andrew Miller, I'm sure they would be much happier with that package. But, the Marlins are not on Peavy's short list.

 

The Cubs offer is more than fair. I think they can absorb moving each of those players as well. I also think that Hendry would attempt to get Greene back in that particular trade also, which would give the Cubs something along these lines:

 

LF: Soriano

CF: Reed Johnson/Fukudome

RF: DeRosa/Someone

3b: Ramirez

SS: Greene

2b: Fontenot/DeRosa

1b: Lee

c: Soto

 

SP: Peavy

SP: Zambrano

SP: Harden

SP: Lilly

SP: Marquis/Hill

 

RP: Wood, Samardzija, Gaudin, Wuertz, Cotts, Guzman, Cashner, Veal, etc...

 

Sorry for the length. I firmly believe Peavy will be traded. And I firmly believe the Cubs have a shot to get him. I'm just not convinced Hendry will do everything possible to make it happen.

[SouthSideRyan]

That's way more than necessary IMO. I think you underrate how much value teams feel Marmol has. Marmol and any one of those guys you mentioned would get it done.

 

Talking about giving up our top 2 tradeable prospects, a former top prospect who still has value, a league average cost controlled starter, a speedy cost controlled SS that gets on base in addition to a guy who'd immediately become a stud closer for them?

[jersey cubs fan]

That's way more than necessary IMO. I think you underrate how much value teams feel Marmol has. Marmol and any one of those guys you mentioned would get it done.

 

Talking about giving up our top 2 tradeable prospects, a former top prospect who still has value, a league average cost controlled starter, a speedy cost controlled SS that gets on base in addition to a guy who'd immediately become a stud closer for them?

 

Agreed. Marmol is not going to be part of a major package, Marmol would be the featured piece. Fans know him, the league knows him. He's marketable, and quite valuable. I'd give him up in a Peavy deal, but would not throw in a bunch of other pieces.

[BigbadB]

That's way more than necessary IMO. I think you underrate how much value teams feel Marmol has. Marmol and any one of those guys you mentioned would get it done.

 

Talking about giving up our top 2 tradeable prospects, a former top prospect who still has value, a league average cost controlled starter, a speedy cost controlled SS that gets on base in addition to a guy who'd immediately become a stud closer for them?

 

That may be true. The point is that we do have enough to get a trade done. I just wanted to prove it.

[shnsajax]

That's way more than necessary IMO. I think you underrate how much value teams feel Marmol has. Marmol and any one of those guys you mentioned would get it done.

 

Talking about giving up our top 2 tradeable prospects, a former top prospect who still has value, a league average cost controlled starter, a speedy cost controlled SS that gets on base in addition to a guy who'd immediately become a stud closer for them?

 

Agreed. Marmol is not going to be part of a major package, Marmol would be the featured piece. Fans know him, the league knows him. He's marketable, and quite valuable. I'd give him up in a Peavy deal, but would not throw in a bunch of other pieces.

 

There are very few closers currently worth more than Marmol in trade value. I would have to look at a list to even think of which ones.

[nilodnayr]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

 

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

 

Well evidently it worked because people immediately stopped talking about how we can get him for pennies on the dollar and that there was an ultimatum to trade him. We can't and there isnt. Buster pegged it at $50M and all other reports are saying $20M off 2008, which would be just over $50M, either way that still allows them to field a team with Peavy. Towers denied reports of a $40M payroll during the Giles trade debacle. Even if it was $30M off, they could still field a team with Peavy and get rid of Giles or Greene. I've shown you that they absolutely can fit Peavy and 24 other guys in $50M, you just chose to ignore it. I guess I should have put it in 200 point font.

 

Obviously the Padres are under a payroll contraint. That point is undeniable, but it is 100% absolutely false for people to think that it is impossible or even difficult for the Padres to field a 25 man roster with Peavy and stay within those payroll constraints.

 

I'm going to assume you are talking about me "immediatly stopping posting" once you used big font since you used my "pennies on the dollar phrase." Just to let you know, some people have jobs during the day that takes up their time and doesn't allow them to monitor internet message boards to see if someone replied to something they wrote by using really big font.

 

As far as the Peavy issue, we disagree. I think he will get traded, and the return will be less than you expect. We'll just have to see what happens. I'm going to go spend some time with my family now, so if I don't respond to what you write, I can assure you it has nothing to do with whatever font, bold, or italics you choose to use.

 

Ok, well then when you get back from your job and your family you can read through this thread and see that I don't have extremely high expectations of a huge return for Peavy because frankly, his production/cost isn't that great (I used the Danny Haren comparison, noting that Peavy should garner less in return than Haren). However, never did I think he would be available for "pennies on the dollar". Of course, 10 pennies and 90 pennies are both pennies, so it depends on how much you mean. I was just annoyed by people who were thought video game trade scenarios would be appropriate and realistic. Its a pet peave of mine.

 

Word has now come out that Peavy would be willing to expand the list of the teams he would accept a trade to (thereby increasing the competition to get him and driving up his price), yet in order to not veto a trade he wants more money (thereby decreasing the price). It will actually be an interesting study in economics to see what happens.

[RedFlash]

Sorry for the length. I firmly believe Peavy will be traded. And I firmly believe the Cubs have a shot to get him. I'm just not convinced Hendry will do everything possible to make it happen.

 

I am no longer 100% sure Peavy won't be traded, but I am still around 75% sure he won't be traded.

 

To me there are a two teams with a legit chance to land Peavy; Cubs and the Braves. So unless Peavy is willing to waive his NTC to go to the AL, Peavy will be with one of three teams; Cubs, Braves, or the Padres. So with such limited options, IDK if the Padres can get even a Dan Haren type package for him, which is why I believe Peavy will be staying with the Padres. But if the Cubs are willing to take Greene or Giles (provided he would be interested in going to Chicago, which is doubtful right now) I think a Peavy deal could get done.

 

But I still am not optimistic about a Peavy deal.

[nilodnayr]

The Padres 2008 Payroll was $73.7M. Buster Olney reports the Padres want to have a 2009 payroll around $50M. Looking at the Padres currently, with them picking up Giles option and arbi raises they have roughly $49M committed. THAT INCLUDES PEAVY. It does not include retaining Hoffman. If they really want Hoffman they'll have to either decline Giles' option or trade him or trade Greene and get nothing in return.

 

Regardless, the Padres DO have room in their budget for Peavy for 2009. They don't HAVE to trade him. Like I said above, the timing of the trade is due to his maximum production/cost, not the divorce.

 

No they Don't have to trade him. No need for the size 200 font. But there have been rumors that the owners may decide to cut payroll to somewhere around 30 some million I believe because of the divorce, which would make it extremely difficult to fit 24 other guys under that limit in addition to Peavy. Just because you put it in 200 point font doesn't mean this won't come into play this winter. Doesn't mean it will either.

 

My best guess is someone will pony up a worthwhile offer and the deal will be made. Maybe the Brewers if they don't bring Sabathia back.

 

Well evidently it worked because people immediately stopped talking about how we can get him for pennies on the dollar and that there was an ultimatum to trade him. We can't and there isnt. Buster pegged it at $50M and all other reports are saying $20M off 2008, which would be just over $50M, either way that still allows them to field a team with Peavy. Towers denied reports of a $40M payroll during the Giles trade debacle. Even if it was $30M off, they could still field a team with Peavy and get rid of Giles or Greene. I've shown you that they absolutely can fit Peavy and 24 other guys in $50M, you just chose to ignore it. I guess I should have put it in 200 point font.

 

Obviously the Padres are under a payroll contraint. That point is undeniable, but it is 100% absolutely false for people to think that it is impossible or even difficult for the Padres to field a 25 man roster with Peavy and stay within those payroll constraints.

 

First, people didn't stop talking about trading for Peavy because of your post. This threads been going for awhile now, is getting up there in pages, and is beginning to suffer from BRTII syndrome. Second, I didn't choose to ignore anything. It's not in any teams best interest to tie up a third of their payroll in one player. No one ever said it was impossible for them to keep Peavy and 24 other guys on the books. What you're obviously missing is that everyone thought everyone else understood that the team wouldn't want that high of a percentage of their payroll on one guy, and they would find it difficult justifying keeping someone in his salary class when they're cutting back everywhere else. You keep talking in extremes, but you're the only one. No one is saying they're going to do or not do anything for sure other than yourself. The only thing anyone else is saying is that they should be compelled (not absolutely, but to a degree) to move him for a variety of reasons. From a business perspective, they're taking a huge gamble if they keep Peavy. He had some arm problems this year, he has a long term contract, and he is taking up a huge percentage of their projected payroll. If he goes down this year with TJS, it would be a total utter disaster that would set their franchise back significantly, kind of like Albert Belle with the Orioles from 2001-2003. If he were on the DL for an extended period, they'd have a payroll of somewhere in the low to mid $30 millions with the figures you reported for the other 24 guys and his replacement. As far as anyone saying we can get him for peanuts, I agree with you on that one, they won't give him away for nothing. But if they can get maybe 70% (maybe more, maybe less) of what they would under more normal circumstances, I think they'd have to think real hard before turning it down.

 

A) Peavy would be roughly 22% of the payroll, not 33%.

B) Correct, you did not say it would be impossible, you said it would be extremely difficult...I outlined how it wouldn't be extremely difficult at all.

 

My points are these. Based on all the information out there, the Padres do not need to trade Peavy this offseason. They can field a team with him on the 2009 payroll and fall within $50M. If they need to cut payroll beyond that, they have other options (Giles, Greene). They are not trading him only for money sake. They are trading him to improve their team and organization. If they feel they cannot do that this offseason, they have the flexibility to wait until the summer and trade him at the deadline or wait until next offseason. Now is the right time to trade Peavy regardless of payroll cuts because for 2009 he has a large amount of value (performance-salary). That gap shrinks dramatically after 2009.

[SouthSideRyan]

Sorry for the length. I firmly believe Peavy will be traded. And I firmly believe the Cubs have a shot to get him. I'm just not convinced Hendry will do everything possible to make it happen.

 

I am no longer 100% sure Peavy won't be traded, but I am still around 75% sure he won't be traded.

 

To me there are a two teams with a legit chance to land Peavy; Cubs and the Braves. So unless Peavy is willing to waive his NTC to go to the AL, Peavy will be with one of three teams; Cubs, Braves, or the Padres. So with such limited options, IDK if the Padres can get even a Dan Haren type package for him, which is why I believe Peavy will be staying with the Padres. But if the Cubs are willing to take Greene or Giles (provided he would be interested in going to Chicago, which is doubtful right now) I think a Peavy deal could get done.

 

But I still am not optimistic about a Peavy deal.

 

Giles shouldn't matter, they have a team option on him. If he has negative value to them, they won't pick it up.

[BigbadB]

Sorry for the length. I firmly believe Peavy will be traded. And I firmly believe the Cubs have a shot to get him. I'm just not convinced Hendry will do everything possible to make it happen.

 

I am no longer 100% sure Peavy won't be traded, but I am still around 75% sure he won't be traded.

 

To me there are a two teams with a legit chance to land Peavy; Cubs and the Braves. So unless Peavy is willing to waive his NTC to go to the AL, Peavy will be with one of three teams; Cubs, Braves, or the Padres. So with such limited options, IDK if the Padres can get even a Dan Haren type package for him, which is why I believe Peavy will be staying with the Padres. But if the Cubs are willing to take Greene or Giles (provided he would be interested in going to Chicago, which is doubtful right now) I think a Peavy deal could get done.

 

But I still am not optimistic about a Peavy deal.

 

Giles shouldn't matter, they have a team option on him. If he has negative value to them, they won't pick it up.

 

I don't think Giles will be back with the Padres.