Re: NLDS Game 1: Dodgers (Lowe) @ Cubs (Dempster) TBS, 5:30 CST

[Hairyducked Idiot]

What are the odds of a team that is statistically superior losing four straight playoff games with a -15 run differential?

 

At what point are we allowed to wonder if it's something wrong with the team and not just flukes?

 

Are you seriously comparing last year's team to this year's team? Yeah, no point in reading your posts anymore.

 

It's called cognitive dissonance. Anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions can be discarded without consideration.

 

He'll, I'll do you one better: 9-20 in playoff games since WWII. Fluke?

 

the cubs haven't been very good since wwII

 

are you trying to say there are ghosts in wrigley or something because otherwise i don't get it and we had a priest in the dugout today anyway

 

 

They were the better team in at least three playoff series off the top of my head, maybe four. Didn't help.

[erik316wttn]

What are the odds of a team that is statistically superior losing four straight playoff games with a -15 run differential?

 

At what point are we allowed to wonder if it's something wrong with the team and not just flukes?

 

Are you seriously comparing last year's team to this year's team? Yeah, no point in reading your posts anymore.

 

It's called cognitive dissonance. Anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions can be discarded without consideration.

 

He'll, I'll do you one better: 9-20 in playoff games since WWII. Fluke?

 

BUT OMG THAT HAS NO BEARING ON ANYTHING!!!

[bcl412]

At least we get to see Maddux pitch.

 

We may be seeing Lowe in Game 4. If we make it that far.

 

I mean he's in now.

 

which means he's probably not going in game 4

 

That'll be when we wake up and are completing a 3-1 series win though.

[17 Seconds]

What are the odds of a team that is statistically superior losing four straight playoff games with a -15 run differential?

 

At what point are we allowed to wonder if it's something wrong with the team and not just flukes?

 

Are you seriously comparing last year's team to this year's team? Yeah, no point in reading your posts anymore.

 

It's called cognitive dissonance. Anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions can be discarded without consideration.

 

Stop trying to change the subject. Comparing the 2007 Cubs to the 2008 Cubs was silly.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
bases empty       358   54  112   12    3    0    1   43   41  0.313  0.388  0.363  0.751  0.353  3.84  0.075  0.333
9th inning         44    8   13    1    1    0    4    8    8  0.295  0.404  0.364  0.767  0.361  4.37  0.108  0.211
1 out             229   38   75    9    3    1   15   23   17  0.328  0.396  0.406  0.802  0.351  3.67  0.069  0.184
last 10 games      25    6   11    0    0    0    0    6    1  0.440  0.548  0.440  0.988  0.458  4.16  0.108  0.000
September          79   11   22    1    1    0    4   10    8  0.278  0.360  0.316  0.676  0.310  3.87  0.081  0.114
Home              294   46   91   11    1    1   16   27   34  0.310  0.368  0.364  0.732  0.347  3.70  0.059  0.127
Nite              320   54   98   13    3    1   24   50   27  0.306  0.402  0.375  0.777  0.332  3.91  0.095  0.172
vs Right          439   59  134   12    3    1   24   46   47  0.305  0.374  0.353  0.727  0.340  3.74  0.069  0.134
vs. L.A.           21    3    7    1    0    0    1    2    3  0.333  0.391  0.381  0.772  0.389  3.39  0.058  0.111
Dale Scott          4    2    2    1    0    1    2    1    1  0.500  0.600  1.500  2.100  0.500  4.00  0.100  1.000

season totals     580   84  178   19    4    1   37   73   58  0.307  0.387  0.359  0.745  0.340  3.77  0.080  0.148

[splintersag]

Theriot's safe.

 

Good to see at least someone's still trying.

Edited October 2, 2008 by splintersag

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot grounded an IF single to first base

[inari]

The Cubs lead baseball in five run innings. At least we have that going for us.

[bcl412]

3 more baserunners until the tying run is up.

[erik316wttn]

My dad told me a joke when I was little.

 

Why did they rip up all the grass at Wrigley Field and replace it with newspaper?

 

Because on paper the Cubs are the best team in baseball.

[Prior4CyYoung]

why bother arguing that call?

[manbearcub]

"oh, yeah, he looked out to me"

[moose]

If we lose this game, I hope a bear escapes brookfield zoo and eats Torre's stupid head.

[imb]

What are the odds of a team that is statistically superior losing four straight playoff games with a -15 run differential?

 

At what point are we allowed to wonder if it's something wrong with the team and not just flukes?

 

Are you seriously comparing last year's team to this year's team? Yeah, no point in reading your posts anymore.

 

It's called cognitive dissonance. Anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions can be discarded without consideration.

 

He'll, I'll do you one better: 9-20 in playoff games since WWII. Fluke?

 

the cubs haven't been very good since wwII

 

are you trying to say there are ghosts in wrigley or something because otherwise i don't get it and we had a priest in the dugout today anyway

 

 

They were the better team in at least three playoff series off the top of my head, maybe four. Didn't help.

 

yeah but i don't get what you're attributing it to is what i'm saying

[big_shooter17]

I thought that Joe Torre had class, but this is showing a degree of classlessness with a 5 run lead in the 9th and the game won.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ward               AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Pinch hitting      53    3    8    2    0    2    9   12   13  0.151  0.303  0.302  0.605  0.158  4.32  0.152  0.132
runners on         67    7   13    4    0    3   16   11   16  0.194  0.304  0.388  0.692  0.208  4.03  0.110  0.149
9th inning         26    2    5    1    0    1    3    2    6  0.192  0.250  0.346  0.596  0.211  4.11  0.058  0.087
1 out              39    5   13    4    0    3   11    5    8  0.333  0.409  0.667  1.076  0.357  4.05  0.076  0.216
last 10 games      15    2    3    2    0    1    3    1    4  0.200  0.250  0.533  0.783  0.200  4.06  0.050  0.100
September          21    2    4    2    0    1    3    2    5  0.190  0.261  0.429  0.689  0.200  3.91  0.070  0.074
Home               50    5   12    5    0    1    9   11   11  0.240  0.377  0.400  0.777  0.289  4.28  0.137  0.182
Nite               46    2    4    2    0    2    6    6   12  0.087  0.189  0.261  0.450  0.063  4.11  0.102  0.093
vs Right           92    8   20    7    0    4   16   15   17  0.217  0.324  0.424  0.748  0.225  4.09  0.107  0.158
vs. L.A.            0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
Dale Scott          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     102    8   22    7    0    4   17   16   24  0.216  0.319  0.402  0.721  0.243  4.20  0.104  0.148

[Fro]

fake rally time!

[Hairyducked Idiot]

What are the odds of a team that is statistically superior losing four straight playoff games with a -15 run differential?

 

At what point are we allowed to wonder if it's something wrong with the team and not just flukes?

 

Are you seriously comparing last year's team to this year's team? Yeah, no point in reading your posts anymore.

 

It's called cognitive dissonance. Anything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions can be discarded without consideration.

 

Stop trying to change the subject. Comparing the 2007 Cubs to the 2008 Cubs was silly.

 

Same manager. Same ballpark. Same fan base. Same 3 and 4 hitters. All but 1 inning tonight pitched by players on the 2007 team. Same 2b. Same LF/leadoff hitter.

 

Not at all the same. Nothing to see here. Move along.

[erik316wttn]

If we lose this game, I hope a bear escapes brookfield zoo and eats Torre's stupid head.

 

This made me LOL

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot took second on defensive indifference

Ward, pinch hitting for Marquis, grounded out to first, unassisted , Theriot to third

[Fred Hornkohl]

Soriano            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP              115   19   32    7    0   10   55   20   26  0.278  0.383  0.600  0.983  0.278  3.74  0.105  0.271
9th inning         21    4    5    3    0    1    2    7    7  0.238  0.429  0.524  0.952  0.308  4.50  0.190  0.125
2 outs            127   10   32    6    0    7   25   18   33  0.252  0.354  0.465  0.818  0.287  3.77  0.102  0.171
last 10 games      27    0    4    1    0    0    3    2    7  0.148  0.207  0.185  0.392  0.200  4.14  0.059  0.333
September          82   10   20    3    0    6   12   13   21  0.244  0.347  0.500  0.847  0.255  4.14  0.103  0.167
Home              227   41   67   11    0   17   44   20   41  0.295  0.356  0.568  0.924  0.296  3.53  0.061  0.260
Nite              245   44   72   18    0   15   36   24   62  0.294  0.358  0.551  0.909  0.339  3.81  0.064  0.194
vs Right          323   49   81   16    0   17   48   31   83  0.251  0.318  0.458  0.777  0.287  3.73  0.068  0.203
vs. L.A.           29    5    8    1    0    1    2    3   10  0.276  0.344  0.414  0.758  0.389  4.00  0.068  0.083
Dale Scott          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     453   78  127   27    0   29   75   43  103  0.280  0.344  0.532  0.876  0.305  3.73  0.064  0.221

[Brian]

get some momentum for tomorrow at least

 

or not

[TMan92]

Soriano = Bum

[Outshined_One]

I'm locking this thread now. Call it a pre-emptive measure.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

They were the better team in at least three playoff series off the top of my head, maybe four. Didn't help.

 

yeah but i don't get what you're attributing it to is what i'm saying

 

I have no idea. Probably nothing.

 

But how much a sample do we need before we decide Cubs playoff underperformance isn't a fluke?

 

20 games? 30? 50? 100?

 

I'm asking an honest question.