08-09' Blackhawks (46-24-12) 104 PTS - 4th Seed In The West!

[Soul]

Great brawl. Really sucks how they played yesterday though.

[NewUserName]

Also I am not a Canucks fan

 

Aren't you a Wings fan?

 

Yes, it sucked that the Hawks got their teeth kicked in where it counts, but I'm encouraged by the fact that they showed a little heart on a night when they clearly weren't going to beat Luongo.

 

Now Montreal. Game is on Vs., by the way. I haven't been following them lately, but the last I heard they were in a freefall.

 

So giving the goalie a cheap shot and getting into a line brawl with Vancouver while the Sedins and Burrows line is out there is showing heart?

[Cynosure]

Also I am not a Canucks fan

 

Aren't you a Wings fan?

 

Yes, it sucked that the Hawks got their teeth kicked in where it counts, but I'm encouraged by the fact that they showed a little heart on a night when they clearly weren't going to beat Luongo.

 

Now Montreal. Game is on Vs., by the way. I haven't been following them lately, but the last I heard they were in a freefall.

 

So giving the goalie a cheap shot and getting into a line brawl with Vancouver while the Sedins and Burrows line is out there is showing heart?

 

Uhh yes.

[kujay]

Also I am not a Canucks fan

 

Aren't you a Wings fan?

 

Yes, it sucked that the Hawks got their teeth kicked in where it counts, but I'm encouraged by the fact that they showed a little heart on a night when they clearly weren't going to beat Luongo.

 

Now Montreal. Game is on Vs., by the way. I haven't been following them lately, but the last I heard they were in a freefall.

 

So giving the goalie a cheap shot and getting into a line brawl with Vancouver while the Sedins and Burrows line is out there is showing heart?

 

It didn't appear to be Buff's "cheap shot" (which I agree it was, I said that last night) that started the fracas. And Burrows and Bieksa seemed like perfectly willing participants. Sure, the sisters were hiding, but what were the Hawks supposed to do?

 

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

[jersey cubs fan]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

[kujay]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

[NewUserName]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

[jaydee]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

[Cynosure]

Can you guys imagine how ugly this whole thing would have gotten if this was next year and Aliu and Beach were on that "goonery" line?

[kujay]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

 

I agree with you on everything except that last part. Buff clearly put a closed fist into Luongo's face and made a jabbing motion. I don't know if Luongo embellished it, but like was mentioned last night, if someone did that to Nik or Huet, I would hope he would get pummeled.

[RedFlash]

Anybody hear what Keith said about Burrows "hair pulling" incident?

 

Keith said something along the lines of "even my little sister didn't pull my hair when we fought". Wasn't the exact quote, but damn near it. And it was hilarious.

[Cynosure]

Comments from Keith

 

Quote:

"That's not something I've ever had happen to me," Keith said. "My little sister never even pulled my hair when I was a kid. It's kind of comical when you have a grown man trying to pull your hair on the ice."

 

From Burish

 

Quote:

"I think it's silly," Hawks forward Adam Burish said. "There's no spot for that. I think that's stupid the way he was pulling [Keith's] hair. Especially a nice haircut like Duncan has. I didn't see it at the time [but] I'm sure I would have been more mad than I was already."

[RedFlash]

Comments from Keith

 

Quote:

"That's not something I've ever had happen to me," Keith said. "My little sister never even pulled my hair when I was a kid. It's kind of comical when you have a grown man trying to pull your hair on the ice."

 

From Burish

 

Quote:

"I think it's silly," Hawks forward Adam Burish said. "There's no spot for that. I think that's stupid the way he was pulling [Keith's] hair. Especially a nice haircut like Duncan has. I didn't see it at the time [but] I'm sure I would have been more mad than I was already."

 

Thx Cyno. Both comment swere hilarious, especially Keith's. Man did Keith punk out Burrows.

[jaydee]

Burish is always good for a laugh. If only he was better with the puck he could be kind of like Ott and Avery.

[NewUserName]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

 

Yes you are probably right, the next time that the Canucks play the Hawks they are probably going to be worried that Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien are going to be goons after they get whooped at hockey.

[jaydee]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

 

Yes you are probably right, the next time that the Canucks play the Hawks they are probably going to be worried that Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien are going to be goons after they get whooped at hockey.

 

That is not what I was saying. Stop being a troll.

[NewUserName]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

 

Yes you are probably right, the next time that the Canucks play the Hawks they are probably going to be worried that Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien are going to be goons after they get whooped at hockey.

 

That is not what I was saying. Stop being a troll.

 

I dont think I am being a troll, I am just giving a honest unbiased assessment of what happened the other night. I also understood what you are trying to say. What I am saying is that what the Hawks did on Sunday night will not lead to the results that you are wishing. Like I said in other posts, win battles in the corners, put consistent pressure on in front of the goalie, finish checks. Stand up when the other team is behaving like goons. That will get your desired effect.

[UMFan83]

Anyone pick up playoff tickets this morning? For some reason I thought they went on sale at 11 AM, not 10 AM so when I got on, there aren't any seats left for game 1, and scattered seats for the other games of round 1.

[kujay]

Anyone pick up playoff tickets this morning? For some reason I thought they went on sale at 11 AM, not 10 AM so when I got on, there aren't any seats left for game 1, and scattered seats for the other games of round 1.

 

I wish I could, but not knowing the dates of the games, it's tough. And if there is a weekend game, I won't be able to afford the secondary market prices. So I'll be watching from home.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't see how this is acting like a troll. The guy makes a pretty good point.

 

 

Some people may think the Hawks "took it to 'em" but in reality they got their asses handed to them. I'm sure Vancouver, and any other team, would love to trade the physical fight for the 4 goal win any time. It's not like the Blackhawks have any actual intimidating players.

 

 

This relates to a question I always have about hockey people rating penalty minutes as though it's an asset. I see the value in having some enforcement and sticking up for guys and whatnot. But penalty minutes are bad. Being short-handed is bad. A couple games ago, some Blackhawks player, I want to say Seabrook, took back to back dumbass penalties for post whistle pushing and shoving, and the Hawks gave up a goal, and lost the game. For some reason his toughness was lauded by some reporters, although all he accomplished was making his team short handed where they gave up a goal.

[kujay]

The playoffs are going to be very physical, and the Sedins and the Hair-Puller need to know that they won't be able to do anything without getting pounded.

 

Something tells me the Canucks didn't leave that game worried about getting pounded.

 

When a team is willing to lay the hard checks and make a lot of contact, it impacts how a lot of guys go into the corners after pucks. It's just an instinct and a split-second reaction to take a path to the puck that won't get you killed. And that path is probably less likely to lead to possession of the puck.

 

"Worried" isn't the correct term for it. Not to play word games, but I would say "mindful." On the flip side, the Hawks should be mindful of the fact that Vancouver will run them out of the building if they come out sleepwalking again.

 

Thats not what the Hawks did though. They cheap shot the goalie and during all the tie ups, Burish went after one of the Sedins, who everyone knows doesnt fight. Why? Because they owned the Hawks all night.

 

If the Hawks want to show me heart. In a big game, win the battles in the corners, finish their checks, make life miserable for the opposing goalie by having traffic in front of the net. Not only does this help you win, it disheartens the other team. My guess is Vancouver did not come out of last nights game worried about the heart the Hawks showed.

 

Hopefully next game the Canucks will be more worried about Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien than Kane, Toews, and Sharp. At least that is the goal of something like that. See NJ vs. NYR last year. The hawks played terrible, yes, but Vancouver hardly dominated the game. Their goals were a result more of blackhawks mistakes than good plays on vancouver's part. I don't think the blackhawks walked away from the game scared of playing them in the playoffs either.

 

And Luongo wasn't cheapshotted - he flopped Marty/Hasek style. It was definitely a goalie interference call, but it wasn't that bad.

 

Yes you are probably right, the next time that the Canucks play the Hawks they are probably going to be worried that Burish, Eager, and Byfuglien are going to be goons after they get whooped at hockey.

 

That is not what I was saying. Stop being a troll.

 

I dont think I am being a troll, I am just giving a honest unbiased assessment of what happened the other night. I also understood what you are trying to say. What I am saying is that what the Hawks did on Sunday night will not lead to the results that you are wishing. Like I said in other posts, win battles in the corners, put consistent pressure on in front of the goalie, finish checks. Stand up when the other team is behaving like goons. That will get your desired effect.

 

You've made your point.

[kujay]

Some people may think the Hawks "took it to 'em" but in reality they got their asses handed to them. I'm sure Vancouver, and any other team, would love to trade the physical fight for the 4 goal win any time. It's not like the Blackhawks have any actual intimidating players.

 

It wasn't about that game anymore, it was about the next one (or the next "series").

[NewUserName]

Some people may think the Hawks "took it to 'em" but in reality they got their asses handed to them. I'm sure Vancouver, and any other team, would love to trade the physical fight for the 4 goal win any time. It's not like the Blackhawks have any actual intimidating players.

 

It wasn't about that game anymore, it was about the next one (or the next "series").

 

That may be true...but picking fights with the Sedins is not intimidating anyone, even the Sedins. I am not going to dig through the thread to find any examples, but this kind of goonery has been bashed by several Hawks fans here.

[kujay]

Some people may think the Hawks "took it to 'em" but in reality they got their asses handed to them. I'm sure Vancouver, and any other team, would love to trade the physical fight for the 4 goal win any time. It's not like the Blackhawks have any actual intimidating players.

 

It wasn't about that game anymore, it was about the next one (or the next "series").

 

That may be true...but picking fights with the Sedins is not intimidating anyone, even the Sedins. I am not going to dig through the thread to find any examples, but this kind of goonery has been bashed by several Hawks fans here.

 

The Sedins happened to be on the ice, but the bigger combatants were O'Brien, Burrows and Bieksa. Who rank 3rd, 28th and 63rd in PIMs in the league, respectively.

[Cynosure]

Some people may think the Hawks "took it to 'em" but in reality they got their asses handed to them. I'm sure Vancouver, and any other team, would love to trade the physical fight for the 4 goal win any time. It's not like the Blackhawks have any actual intimidating players.

 

It wasn't about that game anymore, it was about the next one (or the next "series").

 

That may be true...but picking fights with the Sedins is not intimidating anyone, even the Sedins. I am not going to dig through the thread to find any examples, but this kind of goonery has been bashed by several Hawks fans here.

 

Dude Obrien and Bieksa were on the ice, the Luongo shove wasn't hard at all... he flopped. Byf should have gotten 2 for goaltender interference.

 

Burish ran his mouth... it is unclear who jumped who first but Eager was initially squared off with Obrien then Bieksa got in the way and Eager pulled him out of the pile.

 

It's not like someone just made a run at the Sedins... except for Bolland's slashes after the brawl. Even then, it's [expletive] Dave Bolland... he's not exactly a tough guy.