Dodgers win without a hit

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They won 1-0 on an error by Jered Weaver. How many times has a team won a game without a hit?

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_06_28_anamlb_lanmlb_1

[chuckywang]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-hitter#Pitched_a_no-hitter_and_lost

[Sosa21MVP]

I remember the Andy Hawkins no hit loss.

 

I can't even imagine losing a game like that.

[chuckywang]

It is maddening how arbitrary MLB sets the rules for a no-hitter. Weaver/Arredondo pitched an entire MLB game without giving up a hit. It's not their fault their offense was completely lethargic that game. How can that not be a no-hitter?

 

Also arbitrary is that Weaver/Arredondo could have had a chance for a no-hitter had they been the home team. But since they were away, that chance is taken away from them.

[Guest]

It is maddening how arbitrary MLB sets the rules for a no-hitter. Weaver/Arredondo pitched an entire MLB game without giving up a hit. It's not their fault their offense was completely lethargic that game. How can that not be a no-hitter?

 

Also arbitrary is that Weaver/Arredondo could have had a chance for a no-hitter had they been the home team. But since they were away, that chance is taken away from them.

 

Especially because a pitcher can get credit for throwing a complete game in the same scenario where his team is on the road but loses and he only throws eight innings. If the rules said that wasn't a complete game, then I would understand. But I don't see how you can have a complete game that only goes 8 innings but not a no-hitter that only goes 8 innings.

[BigSlick]

Enough talking about the rules of what constitutes a no hitter, lets enjoy how embarrassing this is for the Angels.

 

You'd think that A's fans would enjoy this, but they got shut out and lost on an error as well today!

[NCCubFan]

The current rules for a no-hitter are completely indefensible. A rain-shortened game also doesn't qualify as a no-hitter any more, even though it would still count as a shutout and a complete game. The one rule change I do agree with is that a game where no hits are given up in regulation but at least one is in extra innings no longer counts (e.g. Harvey Haddix, Hippo Vaughn). It's not rocket science; it should be very simple. If a team has a zero in the hit column for an official game, regardless of length, it's a no-hitter.

[Electron Blue]

The current rules for a no-hitter are completely indefensible. A rain-shortened game also doesn't qualify as a no-hitter any more, even though it would still count as a shutout and a complete game. The one rule change I do agree with is that a game where no hits are given up in regulation but at least one is in extra innings no longer counts (e.g. Harvey Haddix, Hippo Vaughn). It's not rocket science; it should be very simple. If a team has a zero in the hit column for an official game, regardless of length, it's a no-hitter.

 

why is that the one you agree with? If a pitcher throws 9 no-hit innings, yet loses it in the tenth, it shouldn't count as a no-hitter? I don't agree with a pitcher being penalized (as far as milestones go) because of his own team's lack of offense. A no-hitter is about the pitcher . . . why should what eight other guys do at the plate matter.

 

Oh well, it's not like that scenario is ever likely in my lifetime.

[Mute]

Even more ridiculous: May 8, 2008.

 

Randy Johnson strikes out 20 batters in the first nine innings of an extra inning game. But because the game goes to extra innings (and even though he doesn't pitch in those extra innings), he doesn't get credit for tying the record for most strikeouts in a game.

[Electron Blue]

Even more ridiculous: May 8, 2001.

 

Randy Johnson strikes out 20 batters in the first nine innings of an extra inning game. But because the game goes to extra innings (and even though he doesn't pitch in those extra innings), he doesn't get credit for tying the record for most strikeouts in a game.

 

fixed that for you... I was confused at first :)

[Mute]

Even more ridiculous: May 8, 2001.

 

Randy Johnson strikes out 20 batters in the first nine innings of an extra inning game. But because the game goes to extra innings (and even though he doesn't pitch in those extra innings), he doesn't get credit for tying the record for most strikeouts in a game.

 

fixed that for you... I was confused at first :)

 

lol, thanks

[chuckywang]

Even more ridiculous: May 8, 2008.

 

Randy Johnson strikes out 20 batters in the first nine innings of an extra inning game. But because the game goes to extra innings (and even though he doesn't pitch in those extra innings), he doesn't get credit for tying the record for most strikeouts in a game.

 

I believe MLB changed that rule and Randy Johnson does get credit for a 20 strikeout performance. I heard Pat mention this during Wood's 20 K anniversary.

[NCCubFan]

The current rules for a no-hitter are completely indefensible. A rain-shortened game also doesn't qualify as a no-hitter any more, even though it would still count as a shutout and a complete game. The one rule change I do agree with is that a game where no hits are given up in regulation but at least one is in extra innings no longer counts (e.g. Harvey Haddix, Hippo Vaughn). It's not rocket science; it should be very simple. If a team has a zero in the hit column for an official game, regardless of length, it's a no-hitter.

 

why is that the one you agree with? If a pitcher throws 9 no-hit innings, yet loses it in the tenth, it shouldn't count as a no-hitter? I don't agree with a pitcher being penalized (as far as milestones go) because of his own team's lack of offense. A no-hitter is about the pitcher . . . why should what eight other guys do at the plate matter.

 

Oh well, it's not like that scenario is ever likely in my lifetime.

Because it's not a shutout if a pitcher gives up no runs over 9 innings but gives up a run in extra innings. Nor is it a complete game if a pitcher pitches 9 innings but is relieved in extra innings. I just think there should be consistency in qualifying for a complete game, shutout, or no-hitter since they all relate to the pitcher's accomplishments.

[laryan]

this problem can be solved very easily. an asterisk. list the effort of the team as a no-hitter, but list that the team lost and only pitched 8 innings because they were the road team. baseball's rules pretty much say that the game was regulation length, because instances where the home team doesn't come up to bat in the 9th are very frequent, especially this year! are they saying that over half of the games played this year aren't full length games?

[Jon]

Even more ridiculous: May 8, 2008.

 

Randy Johnson strikes out 20 batters in the first nine innings of an extra inning game. But because the game goes to extra innings (and even though he doesn't pitch in those extra innings), he doesn't get credit for tying the record for most strikeouts in a game.

 

I believe MLB changed that rule and Randy Johnson does get credit for a 20 strikeout performance. I heard Pat mention this during Wood's 20 K anniversary.

Yeah, Johnson is credited with striking out 20 now.

[Mute]

Yeah, Johnson is credited with striking out 20 now.

 

good to know, that always seemed like an idiotic ruling.

[TruffleShuffle]

i still think the angels have charged onto the field and celebrated the no-hitter after their hitter made the final out.

[inari]

i still think the angels have charged onto the field and celebrated the no-hitter after their hitter made the final out.

 

That would've been gloriously awesome.

[Careless]

And the pitcher can't even feel that good about his no hitter because his error cost them the only run