Re: College Basketball 2008-2009

[hawkeyecub]

Oakland cut it to 2 points late against Iowa, but isn't going to get it done.

 

I guess the best thing I could say about that game is this team is learning. Wow they really struggle against the press some times and they were playing a 1-1-3 zone that was causing problems. Played tentative and passive against it for the most part and were thinking too much.

 

Oakland is a pretty decent squad though and I'll take it. Gatens had his worst game thus far but other than him and the turnovers they did some good things. We shot 55% from the field and 40% from 3. We had 19 effing assists on 22 field goals.

Tate had 11 and 13. Peterson had 8 points, 9 assists and 1 turnover. Tucker had 19 on 7-12 and 5-10 from 3.

 

Our offense has been extremely efficient thus far, even though they've had too many turnovers in two of the games. We already have 2 games with a higher efficiency rating than we had all of last year and all 4 games would have been top 10 last year.

[CubbieBum]

for the most part - and i say this with no knowledge of this dude's game - players who average a lot of steals are weak one-on-one defenders

 

no that is what he excels at he picks the ball out a lot when a guy has the ball

[CubbieBum]

For as much crap as Chet gets from the fans he is actually a nice looking player. He rebounds, plays great D, has good handles, and his shot appears to be improved. Also take a look at his A/TO ratio this year. Chet is an asset to this team, and I think fans will finally embrace him by the end of the season.

 

he hasn't deserved to be embrace yet, though. his game hasn't been good. but as far as doing the other things, he's been golden.

 

I bet if his name was Chris Kramer you would love him, very similar games between the two yet everyone always shits all over Chester. It's not his fault he was put in the situation he was last year, that goes on Bruce and his poor recruiting.

 

umm no

 

Let's see Frazier averaged .8 steals a game last year in 33 minutes while Kramer averaged 2.3 in 29 minutes. Frazier might be a good defender but Kramer is ridiculously good. He not only makes people shoot bad but he gets a lot of steals.

 

Then offensively Frazier is a liability while Kramer is someone who just doesn't shoot much (probably because he works the defense so much). Frazier has never even shot 36% in a season while Kramer's lowest is .430 his freshman year. In other words Kramer can score when needed and when left open Frazier just simply can't.

 

So to sum up Kramer is a better shooter, defender and a much better player all around. He is also the clear team leader.

Kramer is just a better athlete. I really like Kramer's game a lot.

 

i'm going to have to come to chet's defense, here.

 

kramer gets more steals and shoots a better percentage.

 

however, chet is a better ball handler, distributer, and rebounder. as far as team leader, i believe that they were saying today on btn that the players call chet "coach frazier" (maybe they call kramer "mr. athletic director" at purdue, i wouldn't know). like i said, they're both role players and it's comical to say that either is "ridiculously good". haha.......hahahahaha.

 

Read the post and don't take it out of context. Kramer is ridiculously good at defense and that is what I said. I never wrote he was ridiculously good overall. Oh and yes Frazier has more assists but his assist to turnover ratio his worse than Kramer's in their career's. The reason Kramer doesn't get a lot of assists is because everyone on Purdue can handle the ball (except the center's) so they don't have a true point guard because they don't need one.

[SouthSideRyan]

Frazier might be a good defender but Kramer is ridiculously good.

 

That can easily be misinterpreted.

[CubbieBum]

On the CubbieBum projection system, Kramer is set to average 25 points per game by next year.

 

I assume you are basing this off of my LewJack stuff. I find it funny how you can misinterpret a post and then run with it as if you are right. I said LewJack could become a 15 point scorer. He very well could because he is very talented. I don't think he will. I would say he probably averages 10 pts or so his senior year but he could score 15 a game.

 

Oh and that's not a projection its an evaluation of his potential. Big difference.

[CubbieBum]

Frazier might be a good defender but Kramer is ridiculously good.

 

That can easily be misinterpreted.

 

I can see how you would but the entire paragraph is about their defense and defense was already mentioned in the sentence.

[CubbieBum]

Big 10 a combined 31-1 so far

 

stupid Michigan and its only being able to beat one top 5 team

[SouthSideRyan]

On the CubbieBum projection system, Kramer is set to average 25 points per game by next year.

 

I assume you are basing this off of my LewJack stuff. I find it funny how you can misinterpret a post and then run with it as if you are right. I said LewJack could become a 15 point scorer. He very well could because he is very talented. I don't think he will. I would say he probably averages 10 pts or so his senior year but he could score 15 a game.

 

Oh and that's not a projection its an evaluation of his potential. Big difference.

 

LewJack has talent, but you're talking him up like he's a top 50 recruit, he's not. What are you basing these evaluations off of, the 3 games he's played against low-major talent thus far? He can be a solid Big Ten point guard when he's an upperclassman, but he's never going to be a scorer.

[Magnetic Curses]

For as much crap as Chet gets from the fans he is actually a nice looking player. He rebounds, plays great D, has good handles, and his shot appears to be improved. Also take a look at his A/TO ratio this year. Chet is an asset to this team, and I think fans will finally embrace him by the end of the season.

 

he hasn't deserved to be embrace yet, though. his game hasn't been good. but as far as doing the other things, he's been golden.

 

I bet if his name was Chris Kramer you would love him, very similar games between the two yet everyone always shits all over Chester. It's not his fault he was put in the situation he was last year, that goes on Bruce and his poor recruiting.

 

umm no

 

Let's see Frazier averaged .8 steals a game last year in 33 minutes while Kramer averaged 2.3 in 29 minutes. Frazier might be a good defender but Kramer is ridiculously good. He not only makes people shoot bad but he gets a lot of steals.

 

Then offensively Frazier is a liability while Kramer is someone who just doesn't shoot much (probably because he works the defense so much). Frazier has never even shot 36% in a season while Kramer's lowest is .430 his freshman year. In other words Kramer can score when needed and when left open Frazier just simply can't.

 

So to sum up Kramer is a better shooter, defender and a much better player all around. He is also the clear team leader.

Kramer is just a better athlete. I really like Kramer's game a lot.

 

i'm going to have to come to chet's defense, here.

 

kramer gets more steals and shoots a better percentage.

 

however, chet is a better ball handler, distributer, and rebounder. as far as team leader, i believe that they were saying today on btn that the players call chet "coach frazier" (maybe they call kramer "mr. athletic director" at purdue, i wouldn't know). like i said, they're both role players and it's comical to say that either is "ridiculously good". haha.......hahahahaha.

 

Read the post and don't take it out of context. Kramer is ridiculously good at defense and that is what I said. I never wrote he was ridiculously good overall. Oh and yes Frazier has more assists but his assist to turnover ratio his worse than Kramer's in their career's. The reason Kramer doesn't get a lot of assists is because everyone on Purdue can handle the ball (except the center's) so they don't have a true point guard because they don't need one.

 

so kramer gets a pass on his lack of assist numbers but frazier doesn't get one on his shooting despite the fact that he was having to take a lot of shots playing on a team full of bad players? frazier didn't have the luxury of filling a role on last year's team. let's not make excuses for either because there are enough to go around on both sides. neither offenses require a true point guard because they're 3-guard offenses--they are the exact same motion system.

 

like i said, both players are role players. kramer's a better shooter and gets more steals, frazier is a better ball-handler, distributer, and rebounder. i'm fine with frazier on this year's team because it's actually a good team.

[imb]

oh my god, you don't use an apostrophe when you pluralize something. god i hope your copy editor punches you in the face one day

[CubbieBum]

oh my god, you don't use an apostrophe when you pluralize something. god i hope your copy editor punches you in the face one day

 

you know there's a difference in writing for a message board and for a newspaper. I don't care about making everything perfect on a message board and anyone who does needs to get a life.

 

I don't even see what you are talking about

[imb]

their career's, center's, so on and so on

 

i'm just saying, that's not even, like, an accident. just a pet peeve of mine

[CubbieBum]

their career's, center's, so on and so on

 

i'm just saying, that's not even, like, an accident. just a pet peeve of mine

 

those are actually correct

 

they can be done either way but newspapers, or at least the one I work for wants the apostrophe

[snoodmonger]

their career's, center's, so on and so on

 

i'm just saying, that's not even, like, an accident. just a pet peeve of mine

 

those are actually correct

 

they can be done either way but newspapers, or at least the one I work for wants the apostrophe

 

wait, what? Elaborate. I think you're confused, dude.

[XZero771679666304]

their career's, center's, so on and so on

 

i'm just saying, that's not even, like, an accident. just a pet peeve of mine

 

those are actually correct

 

they can be done either way but newspapers, or at least the one I work for wants the apostrophe

 

No, not really. Apostrophes should only be used in the pluralization of a number or abbreviation (2000's or CD's), but even in that case it is becoming quite irregular.

 

There was a time when it was acceptable to use an apostrophe when pluralizing a word that ends in a vowel, but that was a long, long time ago. Using one in the words IMB used as examples would be wrong. What we are talking about here is the greengrocer's apostrophe, a phenomenon that I am sure has driven many an English instructor mad.

 

 

If there is a newspaper that allows it, I am surprised the Apostrophe Protection Society hasn't gone all PETA on it. Apostrophes really shouldn't ever be used to pluralize.

[imb]

their career's, center's, so on and so on

 

i'm just saying, that's not even, like, an accident. just a pet peeve of mine

 

those are actually correct

 

they can be done either way but newspapers, or at least the one I work for wants the apostrophe

 

lol

 

and poor andy is the one that can't get a job

[snoodmonger]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

[wekse]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

 

youngster's, big's...duh.

[Magnetic Curses]

yung mee is a hack compared to this guy.

[SouthSideRyan]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

 

Hasn't Washington kinda sucked this year?

[illiniguy]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

I could go and be sitting front row for free, but I have to work. I hate work.

[Guest]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

 

They haven't been that impressive so far and part of the problem is their guards forget to get Brockman the ball.

[fromthestretch]

Just ordered my tickets to see Purdue play on Friday at Madison Square Garden. Not excited about being in NYC on the biggest shopping day of the year, but at least I'll get to watch the Boilers.

[snoodmonger]

KU vs. Washington tonight. Our first real opponent. I smell a loss for the KU youngsters. I think Brockman puts our bigs into foul trouble early.

 

Hasn't Washington kinda sucked this year?

 

They did lose to Portland, but honestly, it's impossible to assess where KU is right now. Sherron is the only guaranteed stud on the court. Aldrich, while he has potential, is still a Sophomore big who tends to swat down at the ball. If he can stay on the court, board, and score 8-12 points/game, I'd be very happy. After that, it's basically freshmen or sophomores with almost zero game experience. So while Washington might be pretty average, they'll be the first high-major team most of these guys will face. I wouldn't be shocked if the speed of the game put them on their heels.

[Andy]

Notre Dame looks great today. They're dominating IU without much help from Luke Harangody. Tory Jackson is much improved offensively.