Would you trade Soriano for J.D. Drew and Julio Lugo?

[SouthSideRyan]

I'd rather trade Soriano 3 years from now. I don't think he'll fall of a cliff that quickly.

 

who is going to take a 35-year-old Soriano with 3 years at $16m left on his contract?

 

A lot of teams if his numbers are similar to where they are now. Well not NOW, but the general now of his career.

[Tracer Bullet]

I'd rather trade Soriano 3 years from now. I don't think he'll fall of a cliff that quickly.

 

who is going to take a 35-year-old Soriano with 3 years at $16m left on his contract?

 

A lot of teams if his numbers are similar to where they are now. Well not NOW, but the general now of his career.

 

With an OPS of .840 (his career OPS), you think they'll be a lot of people looking to take him? If he has a couple years of .800-.820 OPS like he did in Texas, I don't think the phones will be ringing off the hook.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I'd rather trade Soriano 3 years from now. I don't think he'll fall of a cliff that quickly.

 

I'm wondering if we're presently watching reality TV of that fall happening before our eyes. A stretch, I know, but I am concerned

[Shawon12]

are you kidding? In a heartbeat. He sticks out like a sore thumb on this team and it's only going to get worse.

[rchap24]

Drew way to injury prone....I don't care if Soriano gets hurt, but Drew really hasn't been healthy his entire career. As for Lugo I think Cedeno/Theriot> way over him, please lets just trade for another starter or bullpen we don't need another hitter right now unless its Brian Roberts!

[YearofDaCubs]

To me, this wouldn't be about which player is better, it would be about getting rid of Soriano's contract from the books. 7 years left. Edited April 23, 2008 by YearofDaCubs

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To me, this wouldn't be about which player is better, it would be about getting rod of Soriano's contract from the books. 7 years left.

 

exactly

[Rob]

Drew way to injury prone....I don't care if Soriano gets hurt, but Drew really hasn't been healthy his entire career. As for Lugo I think Cedeno/Theriot> way over him, please lets just trade for another starter or bullpen we don't need another hitter right now unless its Brian Roberts!

 

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You don't care if Soriano gets hurt, but use the injury risk as an excuse to say no to JD Drew?

[RedFlash]

Drew way to injury prone....I don't care if Soriano gets hurt, but Drew really hasn't been healthy his entire career. As for Lugo I think Cedeno/Theriot> way over him, please lets just trade for another starter or bullpen we don't need another hitter right now unless its Brian Roberts!

 

Drew's contract is off the books by 2011.

 

Soriano's contract is off the books by 2014.

 

Injury prone or not, Drew has a shorter contract, thus IMO would have more value to the Cubs, then a semi-productive healthy Soriano.

[WrigleyField 22]

Despite his contract situation, I wouldn't trade him this year. Once he get back and his healthy and his bat heats up he will be way too valuable for us this year if we are serious about winning the World Series.

 

Now if the return was good enough that the drop in production from Soriano to Murton/Johnson/DeRosa/Pie was justified by the return I'd do it, but I don't think Drew qualifies.

 

After this year, I'd definitely be much more open to trading Soriano, even if the package back was crap.

[wrigley23]

yes. Soriano is addition by subtraction at this point.

[TruffleShuffle]

yes. Soriano is addition by subtraction at this point.

 

the only problem is that drew and lugo are subtraction by subtraction

[WrigleyField 22]

yes. Soriano is addition by subtraction at this point.

Only assuming that the player(s) we get back are just as likely to help us win this year.

 

Sorry, but if we want to maximize our chances of winning this year it isn't happening by getting rid of Soriano and downgrading to Murton, Cedeno, or whoever.

 

Now say we got back a pitcher, or upgrade at SS, then it might be justified. But when Soriano gets back and his bat heats up, he's going to be just as helpful in getting us wins as anyone else right now.

[wrigley23]

I hope you are right. If team OBP keeps up the current pace & soriano is even average, this will be a lethal offense. On top of that, we've kept the trading chips we do have & that could get us pitching insurance for the rotation down the stretch. Even if we win the division going away, we need a big move heading into the playoffs.

[nilodnayr]

No, especially since we no longer could use Lugo.

 

Serioiusly? After 3 weeks of the season we have changed our minds and Theriot is acceptable? There is no way that anyone can say that the past 20 games have changed anyones true talent. Thats ridiculous.

[RedFlash]

No, especially since we no longer could use Lugo.

 

Serioiusly? After 3 weeks of the season we have changed our minds and Theriot is acceptable? There is no way that anyone can say that the past 20 games have changed anyones true talent. Thats ridiculous.

 

With Cedeno also on the roster, Lugo is not needed as much. I would do that trade, provided the Cubs could flip Lugo to another team.

[nilodnayr]

No, especially since we no longer could use Lugo.

 

Serioiusly? After 3 weeks of the season we have changed our minds and Theriot is acceptable? There is no way that anyone can say that the past 20 games have changed anyones true talent. Thats ridiculous.

 

With Cedeno also on the roster, Lugo is not needed as much. I would do that trade, provided the Cubs could flip Lugo to another team.

 

Hey, I'm all for starting Ronny at SS permanently, but as we saw today hes behind Theriot on the depth chart.

[SouthSideRyan]

No, especially since we no longer could use Lugo.

 

Serioiusly? After 3 weeks of the season we have changed our minds and Theriot is acceptable? There is no way that anyone can say that the past 20 games have changed anyones true talent. Thats ridiculous.

 

With Cedeno also on the roster, Lugo is not needed as much. I would do that trade, provided the Cubs could flip Lugo to another team.

 

Hey, I'm all for starting Ronny at SS permanently, but as we saw today hes behind Theriot on the depth chart.

 

I'm not sure today really showed that. Lou seems to be a believer in lineup positions and sees Theriot as a better fit for the 2 hole. If he plans on putting Soriano back at leadoff, then I could see him filling the 2 spot with Pie/Johnson.

[NCCubFan]

No, especially since we no longer could use Lugo.

 

Serioiusly? After 3 weeks of the season we have changed our minds and Theriot is acceptable? There is no way that anyone can say that the past 20 games have changed anyones true talent. Thats ridiculous.

 

With Cedeno also on the roster, Lugo is not needed as much. I would do that trade, provided the Cubs could flip Lugo to another team.

 

Hey, I'm all for starting Ronny at SS permanently, but as we saw today hes behind Theriot on the depth chart.

We did not see that at all. What we did see is that, if they're both going to start, he likes Theriot at SS and Cedeno at 2B rather than the other way around.

[NCCubFan]

Soriano is overpriced and always injured.

No, Soriano is not always injured. He had one trip to the DL last year and once this year, and that's it for his career. That is not "always injured." Overpriced, that one I'll give you.

[NCCubFan]

Kill this. What makes anyone think Boston would do this deal?

I must not have received the memo that said hypothetical trades couldn't be mentioned if they aren't realistic.

[17 Seconds]

Kill this. What makes anyone think Boston would do this deal?

 

Did you even read the original post? He even said it's hypothetical. Obviously Boston wouldn't do it, but that's not the point. He's trying to get an idea of what people would do.

[YearofDaCubs]

Soriano is overpriced and always injured.

No, Soriano is not always injured. He had one trip to the DL last year and once this year, and that's it for his career. That is not "always injured." Overpriced, that one I'll give you.

Maybe he's not "always" injured but let's face it..last year the guy got hurt with a pretty serious injury. Luckily, he was able to rebound but all that time off during the off-season and he couldn't get fully healthy? And then he gets hurt yet again on a very weak play. I don't know, the guy might be breaking down but maybe not, we'll see soon enough.

[Tracer Bullet]

Soriano is overpriced and always injured.

No, Soriano is not always injured. He had one trip to the DL last year and once this year, and that's it for his career. That is not "always injured." Overpriced, that one I'll give you.

 

A - it was pretty clear from the context of my post (quoting the other poster) that I was borrowing his language to make a point. Hyperbole was intentional.

 

B - That said, Soriano missed about 30 games last year and injured himself by hopping in the OF. He's 32 and seems to be less than 100% a fair amount. He's not injured as frequently as Drew, but no one's mistaking him for Cal Ripken Jr at this point either.

[rchap24]

Drew way to injury prone....I don't care if Soriano gets hurt, but Drew really hasn't been healthy his entire career. As for Lugo I think Cedeno/Theriot> way over him, please lets just trade for another starter or bullpen we don't need another hitter right now unless its Brian Roberts!

 

Drew's contract is off the books by 2011.

 

Soriano's contract is off the books by 2014.

 

Injury prone or not, Drew has a shorter contract, thus IMO would have more value to the Cubs, then a semi-productive healthy Soriano.

 

Soriano is a better player. Drew is statistically a pretty decent player, but we dont need another average outfield how will that help us out in anyway more than Soriano does?