Moises Alou: I wouldn't have caught Bartman ball

[OleMissCub]

 

i'll never watch the game again but i'm almost certain that he made a mound visit before pulling prior. by which i mean that his second visit consisted of pulling him.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

[Chris]

I've got the game on tape and could check, but he didn't go out to calm everyone down after the Bartman incident and I'm not sure if he went out after Alex couldn't make the play. Either way, Dusty needed to get up and calm the players down. I agree that Dusty didn't need to go out and explode, but that's not what I wanted to see from him at that point.

[Wheelimus]

To me it was Alou's job to make a big deal after that play. He was hoping for some sort of fan interference call. If he had of gotten it and given us that out none of us would care that he was crying wolf. And if he had of just walked away we'd be still be debating if he was a traitor for not trying to coax an interference ruling.

 

On the flipside, I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting five years later that you making that catch was pretty iffy. Especially when they ID'd the guy (which Moises surely didn't even consider in the moment) and he's still a bit of a pariah.

 

It's just sad that a Cubs fan probably feels too intimidated to come to Wrigley five years after.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

i'll never watch the game again but i'm almost certain that he made a mound visit before pulling prior. by which i mean that his second visit consisted of pulling him.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

i'm ALMOST CERTAIN he did.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

i'll never watch the game again but i'm almost certain that he made a mound visit before pulling prior. by which i mean that his second visit consisted of pulling him.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

i'm ALMOST CERTAIN he did.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

I'm almost certain

[Magnetic Curses]

 

i'll never watch the game again but i'm almost certain that he made a mound visit before pulling prior. by which i mean that his second visit consisted of pulling him.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

i'm ALMOST CERTAIN he did.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

almost certain did.

[reds44]

That makes his reaction that much more ridiculous. He's solely responsible for that incident even being remembered in the first place. He probably should have continued to never admit this.

Exactly. If Alou doesnt throw a fit and start screaming it doesnt get blown out of proportion nearly as much.

Or maybe he was trying to see it to get fan interfearance...

Then dont say it is not the fans fault

What? Just because he was trying to see fan interfearance doesn't mean the fan did anything wrong. He was trying to get a call, even know he knew had no chance at getting it.

[mcgoobs]

Regardless if Dusty should or shouldn't have, did or didn't come out to calm down Prior in the 8th, he should absolutely be faulted for leaving Prior in when he was clearly fatiguing. Before laying blame to Bartman, Alou, Gonzalez, or anyone else Baker needs to be singled out for this.

[Magnetic Curses]

Regardless if Dusty should or shouldn't have, did or didn't come out to calm down Prior in the 8th, he should absolutely be faulted for leaving Prior in when he was clearly fatiguing. Before laying blame to Bartman, Alou, Gonzalez, or anyone else Baker needs to be singled out for this.

 

not at all. dusty can't be faulted for going with his stud in a situation like that. the real crime was his abuse of prior in his previous game, as i pointed out.

 

what was dusty going to do, bring in farnsworth so he could be bad?

[Derwood]

i'm absolutely sure that i never saw the game in its entirety

[Lockes Eye Scar]

I'm almost certain I turned the game off after Derrek Lee killed us

[Bote McBoteface]

I'm almost certain I turned the game off after Derrek Lee killed us

 

Unfortunately I watched it all.

 

Dusty did not come out after the foul ball non-interference play, but I think Rothshild did after the error by Gonzalez.

[CubbieBum]

Alou should have yelled at the ump for interference not Bartman. But with that said I would have yelled at Bartman. Bartman is a scapegoat but the fact remains that when I go to games (at any level of baseball) I know to let the guy try to catch it. He should have not tried to catch it but he is hardly the first or last to do something like this.

 

And Alou saying this now when in the story they quote him saying that Bartman put his hand in his glove is a lie. He's trying to get people of the guys back because he is obviously a big fan of the Cubs and baseball.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'm almost certain I was at that game. :(

[Schwarber Fan]

A few thoughts on this:

 

1) I'm pretty sure Alou would have caught the ball, but it was no easy play

2) WTF Moises, if you're gonna come out and say this, do it like a day after the game

3) I think Alou is sick of being asked about it, which is why he said what he did

4) even if (2) is true, Bartman probably still would be getting blamed

5) The whole thing is still Alex Gonzalez's fault

[CuseCubFan69]

It was a team loss and no one player or manager lost it for them. There are 9 innings and I'm sure the Cubs could have pushed a run across earlier in the game or not allowed a run as well. I'll never understand blaming one guy for a loss as it's a team game.

[Derwood]

in Bartman's defense, it is REALLY hard to know where a ball is going to land. I was at a minor league game last summer and sat in the 4th row. A foul ball got hit very high and right towards our section. I thought it was coming right to me until the fielder reached in and caught it 2 rows in front of me.

 

in other words, it's extremely easy to blame a guy in the first row but if you just sit there with our hands in your pockets you're probably going to get a baseball in the face

[Wheelimus]

It may not have been his fault but if poor Bartman had it to do over again I bet you he'd clothesline everyone around him back so Alou could make the catch.

 

Then we'd still be talking about the hero who took multiple assault charges for the team so Moises could make the catch. lol

[Bull]

 

i'll never watch the game again but i'm almost certain that he made a mound visit before pulling prior. by which i mean that his second visit consisted of pulling him.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

i'm ALMOST CERTAIN he did.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't.

 

almost certain did.

 

Certain almost didn't (Geovanny)

[Soul]

That makes his reaction that much more ridiculous. He's solely responsible for that incident even being remembered in the first place. He probably should have continued to never admit this.

Exactly. If Alou doesnt throw a fit and start screaming it doesnt get blown out of proportion nearly as much.

 

I don't have a problem with Alou's reaction. While he can admit he probably wouldn't have caught it, Bartman eliminated any chance of possibly catching it.

 

So, the probability factor went from not likely to catch it to not a chance in hell of catching it. That's got to be pretty frustrating.

 

I've always thought it was Alou's temper tantrum that had more of an effect than actually not getting the out. Alou's the veteran there, he's got to contain himself better no matter whether he would really catch it or not. I sat there and watched Prior's reaction *to Alou*, and I went......"uh oh."

 

I'll always believe (though can't be proven obviously) that if Alou stays calm Prior would have also, and we go to the World Series.

[Old Style]

We're listening to a guy who pees on himself ON PURPOSE? Shut up, Moist Hands, and let it go. Cub fans everywhere are trying to do the same.

[CuseCubFan69]

Did the catcher go out and try to settle down Prior?

[Jehrico]

Let's not leave Dusty free from the blame. Did he ever actually stand up while the team was in meltdown mode?

 

Nope. That to me might be the most egregious sin of that night. He just sat on his fat butt with that stupid toothpick in his mouth while the ship was sinking.

 

 

i have absolutely no problem with dusty remaining calm. what would people have him do? stomp around and rant and rave? have a hippie freak out? go out and yell at the ump and ruin any kind of serenity that the players had to begin with?

 

the manager was virtually powerless in that situation. he pulls prior then he gets second guessed when farnsworth comes in and is ineffective, which he was.

 

the players blew it. the fielding percentage leader at ss muffed an easy double play and the whole world came down, period. the problem i have with dusty is leaving prior in so long during his previous start. the end of that game was all gonzalez.

Agree for the most part. However, I would hope that serenity is the last word to describe the mindset of the players when they're 5 outs away from clinching a trip to the WS, and I'd hope that Dusty wouldn't be concerned with his players feeling serene in that instance. Adrenaline or fieriness would have been far more appropriate.

[Soul]

Did the catcher go out and try to settle down Prior?

 

I honestly don't remember.