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meh. people talk about it like it's some gem but it's never been anything special, and really, with no fans in the outfield, it almost feels like a minor league game.

I disagree. Kauffman is a great place to watch a game, and while you disparage it by saying it feels like a minor league park I think that's part of it's charm. You don't feel like you're in a cookie-cutter megastaduim or a mall when you're there; it's a park for baseball and only baseball, and that's one of it's biggest strengths, in my opinion. Also don't forget that it's as good as it is despite coming from the era of the aforementioned mega-stadiums. It may not seem special when compared to today's billion-dollar stadiums with architectural significance, but when compared with its contemporaries it's an amazingly beautiful park.

 

Anyway, count me in with IMB!... I'd love to watch a few Cubs games at the K every year.

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now all we have to do is trade the cards for the marlins and the astros for the d-rays.

 

cubs

royals

pirates

reds

d-rays

marlins

 

 

jackpot.

 

You're forgetting one little thing. The Cubs can't beat the Marlins to save their lives.

 

The other thing he is forgetting is that the d-rays will be better than the cubs in a couple years.

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now all we have to do is trade the cards for the marlins and the astros for the d-rays.

 

cubs

royals

pirates

reds

d-rays

marlins

 

 

jackpot.

 

You're forgetting one little thing. The Cubs can't beat the Marlins to save their lives.

 

The other thing he is forgetting is that the d-rays will be better than the cubs in a couple years.

 

Except for the fact that they too will pull a Florida Marlins fire sale when some of these young prospects start getting arbitration money. This is a team that will have a small window of opportunity and if they don't win within that time frame, it's back to the drawing board.

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meh. people talk about it like it's some gem but it's never been anything special, and really, with no fans in the outfield, it almost feels like a minor league game.

I disagree. Kauffman is a great place to watch a game, and while you disparage it by saying it feels like a minor league park I think that's part of it's charm. You don't feel like you're in a cookie-cutter megastaduim or a mall when you're there; it's a park for baseball and only baseball, and that's one of it's biggest strengths, in my opinion. Also don't forget that it's as good as it is despite coming from the era of the aforementioned mega-stadiums. It may not seem special when compared to today's billion-dollar stadiums with architectural significance, but when compared with its contemporaries it's an amazingly beautiful park.

 

Anyway, count me in with IMB!... I'd love to watch a few Cubs games at the K every year.

 

I agree as well - I saw Jon Leiber dominate the Royals there last year and it was a great experience. Not to mention that the stadium brat with the Boulevard Pale Ale mustard is the best brat I've ever had

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The Royals are just a pathetic organization. They've only had 2 winning records in the past 15 years.

 

Although the Brewers have a brighter future it seems, they have posted only 1 winning season in the past 15 years and that was just last year!

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I'd much rather have the Royals in our division instead of the Brewers.

--I'm with Vance and others on this one. The Cubs could keep their rivalry going somewhat with the Brewers through Interleague play. Now that I live in Kansas, and no longer in Houston...I would much rather have the Royals in our division, so I could see the Cubs play at Kauffman (only a little over an hour from K.C.). Just curious, how close is Detroit to where the Brewers are at? Was it the White Sox and Brewers (when they were in the A.L.) that used to have such an intense rivalry before the switch? Beanball wars? Or am I dreaming?

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The Brewers are a rivalry like it or not, based on proximity alone. The rivalry is not like the Cards/Cubs but is not forced. I read something that before the braves moved to Atlanta the Milwaukee/Chicago games were pretty heated. Getting KC for Milwaukee would be a loss. We might win some more games initially but before last year the brewers were thought of as a team that was almost there. Give me the brewers.
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to me it makes more sense to ship the astros to the AL. they'd have the rangers for rivals, they really dont have rivals in the central anyway. the moves arent made often, so i would ignore current talent when you're considering how this would effect the cubs.

 

Yes, I agree with this as well. Several reasons:

 

1) It'd create a natural interdivision rivalry between the Rangers and Astros.

2) It'd cut down on travel, which is something that the Rangers always gripe about.

3) The Astros are not a "historic" NL franchise, and have only existed for 45 years or so. (I understand this argument easily applies to the Brewers, since they were an AL team for most of their existence.)

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to me it makes more sense to ship the astros to the AL. they'd have the rangers for rivals, they really dont have rivals in the central anyway. the moves arent made often, so i would ignore current talent when you're considering how this would effect the cubs.

 

Yes, I agree with this as well. Several reasons:

 

1) It'd create a natural interdivision rivalry between the Rangers and Astros.

2) It'd cut down on travel, which is something that the Rangers always gripe about.

3) The Astros are not a "historic" NL franchise, and have only existed for 45 years or so. (I understand this argument easily applies to the Brewers, since they were an AL team for most of their existence.)

 

The Rangers and the Astros currently play each other 6 times a year. If they moved to the AL, they'd still play each other 6 times a year.

 

It's 240 miles between Houston and Arlington and around 560 from Arlington to Kansas City. They are all in the same time zone. Considering Texas usually only goes to KC once per year, the difference in travel is so minimal to not even be worth much. In fact, Texas probably would travel just as much if Houston was in the AL because Houston is out of the way to most cities, and KC isn't that far out of the way if you're then hopping to another city on a road trip.

 

Excluding the Astros as a historic NL franchise takes out half the other franchises in the NL as well. The Mets, Padres, Expos/Nationals, Rockies, Marlins, Diamondbacks, and Brewers were all added at the same time or after the Astros.

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The Rangers and the Astros currently play each other 6 times a year. If they moved to the AL, they'd still play each other 6 times a year.

 

It's 240 miles between Houston and Arlington and around 560 from Arlington to Kansas City. They are all in the same time zone. Considering Texas usually only goes to KC once per year, the difference in travel is so minimal to not even be worth much. In fact, Texas probably would travel just as much if Houston was in the AL because Houston is out of the way to most cities, and KC isn't that far out of the way if you're then hopping to another city on a road trip.

 

Excluding the Astros as a historic NL franchise takes out half the other franchises in the NL as well. The Mets, Padres, Expos/Nationals, Rockies, Marlins, Diamondbacks, and Brewers were all added at the same time or after the Astros.

 

:oops: :oops:

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to me it makes more sense to ship the astros to the AL. they'd have the rangers for rivals, they really dont have rivals in the central anyway. the moves arent made often, so i would ignore current talent when you're considering how this would effect the cubs.

 

I would disagree. It gives the state of Texas both teams in the AL and NL and given the geographic distance between Texas and other teams in baseball it makes more sense for MLB to keep the market open to both leagues.

 

I like the KC idea too, it gives both Billy Butler and Alex Gordon a chance to see their future home on a regular basis.

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So let me get this straight. The Brewers want to move back to the AL, because when the Cubs come to town, they actually *SELL* tickets?

 

This makes sense.......how, exactly?

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There's a joke about Ryan Braun's defense somewhere in here.

 

 

 

Selfishly, I'm down. It' just a 4 hour drive and I could see the Cubs every year.

 

And yes, this. I was pretty stoked when it initally sounded like we were going to KC this year. Kauffman is a real nice place to watch a game, and I think they still have the cheapest ticket prices in MLB.

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Hmm. Let's see.

 

9-9 vs. the Reds last year, including losing 7 of the first 11.

0-6 vs. the Marlins last year.

8-7 vs. the Pirates last year, including losing 6 of the first 10.

 

All those teams have some of the best young talent in the game, while the Cubs have little. The Cubs don't do well vs. young talent.

 

i must've missed the part where the pirates had talent

Posted
The Royals are getting better and are boosting the payroll. They aren't the Brewers, but it's not impossible to think they could do well over the course of 4-6 years (in the NLC).
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So Wrigley North would leave, and Busch West would come in?

 

Yep. Then 10 years from now we can listen to the tired, monotonous moaning of Royals fans asking to move back to the AL because they can't sell out their stadium unless the Cards come to town.

 

I mean seriously. :roll:

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