3 more years of Selig

[Post Count Padder]

Bud Selig on Thursday was given a three-year extension as baseball commissioner through the 2012 season.

 

Financial terms weren't released, of course, but Selig received $14.5 million in the 12 months ending Oct. 31, 2005, according to MLB's last available tax return. Selig insisted when his last extension was done that he'd be retiring after it expired following the 2009 season. This sets him up as commissioner through age 78.

Source: The Associated Press

[hawkcub]

No, No, No. ](*,)

[C.C.]

Fine by me...

[Electron Blue]

as stupid as this surely sounds to some, count me as surprised that he's that old.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Meh. I don't hate Selig as much as I used to.

[Brian]

Meh. I don't hate Selig as much as I used to.

 

wait till his hand picked owner takes over :x

[Coach C]

So much for his "retirement" in 2009.

 

Not sure why he deserves to stay on longer. The Steroid Era occured under his watch, and I feel that he looked the other way around, and didn't do anything. He refuses to face the serious problem of drug abuse by players, coaches (and from the ineptness of most umpires) umpires.

 

I also feel that MLB should publicly reprimand poor umpiring just as they are want to publicly admonish players and coaches. In my opinion, umpiring in the major leagues has become a laughing matter. Umpires can skirt the rules all they want, especially in calling balls and strikes. Make them accountable to somebody. I as a fan feel that the integrity of the game has suffered immensely. Especially when umpiring decisions can determine the outcome of the game and not the play of the players. It would not surprise me if there is a "Tim Donaghy" umpire somewhere in the league.

 

I don't have a problem with the Expos deal, since their attendence there wasn't exactly good, but to contracting the Twins? Not a very bright idea there.

 

Didn't baseball lockout occured during under his watch?

[RedIvyCub]

Guess this means Crane Kenney has to look for a different job when the new owners take over the Cubs? :roll:

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

worst commissioner ever.

[apete6]

I'm gonna get hammered for this, but I think Bud Selig has done a very good job as commissioner. Sure, the strike of 1994 sucked and there's a ton of things that I would change about baseball, but, under his reign, the following things have happened:

 

Increased revenue for owners like 1 million percent

Players make way more than they used to without having to agree to a salary cap

Nearly every team got a new stadium, most had a great deal of public funding

The Wild Card was implemented and has led to numerous wild card champions

Baseball got some great TV and advertising revenues

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football, despite the lack of a salary cap

Baseball returned to Washington DC, the nation's capital

Attendance is at its highest point ever, both in terms of total attendance and % of seats sold

 

Now, did he get lucky and get bailed out by Cal Ripken, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and the resurgence of the New York Yankees? Maybe, but overall, baseball is in a much better place now than it was in 1992, which is really the true measure of whether he did his job well.

[TruffleShuffle]

worst commissioner ever.

 

not even close.

 

william eckert was inept.

so was fay vincent.

bowie kuhn was responsible for the curt flood lawsuit (reserve clause) and plenty of labor strife.

kenesaw mountain landis did some good things, but was a racist who held back the integration of the game for 25 years.

[Coach C]

worst commissioner ever.

 

not even close.

 

william eckert was inept.

so was fay vincent.

bowie kuhn was responsible for the curt flood lawsuit (reserve clause) and plenty of labor strife.

kenesaw mountain landis did some good things, but was a racist who held back the integration of the game for 25 years.

 

I agree that he's not the worst commissioner, but he is way up there with those guys.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

worst commissioner ever.

 

not even close.

 

william eckert was inept.

so was fay vincent.

bowie kuhn was responsible for the curt flood lawsuit (reserve clause) and plenty of labor strife.

kenesaw mountain landis did some good things, but was a racist who held back the integration of the game for 25 years.

 

ha, as if Selig was devoid of ineptness.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football,.

bhwhahahhahahahahahah...good one.

[hawkcub]

I'm gonna get hammered for this, but I think Bud Selig has done a very good job as commissioner. Sure, the strike of 1994 sucked and there's a ton of things that I would change about baseball, but, under his reign, the following things have happened:

 

Increased revenue for owners like 1 million percent

Players make way more than they used to without having to agree to a salary cap

Nearly every team got a new stadium, most had a great deal of public funding

The Wild Card was implemented and has led to numerous wild card champions

Baseball got some great TV and advertising revenues

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football, despite the lack of a salary cap

Baseball returned to Washington DC, the nation's capital

Attendance is at its highest point ever, both in terms of total attendance and % of seats sold

 

Now, did he get lucky and get bailed out by Cal Ripken, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and the resurgence of the New York Yankees? Maybe, but overall, baseball is in a much better place now than it was in 1992, which is really the true measure of whether he did his job well.

 

You got good points. But I don't think all of them are valid.

 

Increased revenue for owners like 1 million percent-I know 1,000,000 is an exaguration on your point but your point still has merit.

Players make way more than they used to without having to agree to a salary cap-true

Nearly every team got a new stadium, most had a great deal of public funding-I'm not sure that's such a good thing for the various communities

The Wild Card was implemented and has led to numerous wild card champions-The best thing he did

Baseball got some great TV and advertising revenues-true

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football, despite the lack of a salary cap- completely disagree. You have to be really smart in small markets. Minnesota has sucess but Kansas City has not. There are many teams that know they don't got a chance every year. While in football everybody thinks they got a chance.

Baseball returned to Washington DC, the nation's capital-time will tell if this is a good thing. Others teams have failed here. After a few years the Nationals may be struggling financially too.

Attendance is at its highest point ever, both in terms of total attendance and % of seats sold-true

 

He has done good things but I think baseball could do better with someone else.

[Soul]

Is it OK to be lukewarm on the guy? I've never had a deep-seeded hatred of him, he's done some good things and then turned around and done some ridiculous things too.

 

I doubt the owners would have a hot, young, irreverent commish in any case. If a change was made, we'd probably just get another Selig anyway. More or less.

[SouthSideRyan]

As a person, I'm pretty sure he's reprehensible. He's oversaw pretty much the greatest growth in baseball's history though, whether he did anything besides not stand in the way is the question.

[apete6]

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football,.

bhwhahahhahahahahahah...good one.

 

Actually there was an article on ESPN saying that a higher percentage of baseball teams made the playoffs in baseball since either 1998 or 2000.

 

Also, the Patriots are going to win their 4th Super Bowl in like 8 years and baseball had a different champion every year from 2000-2006 with the Red Sox finally winning their 2nd this year to break the trend.

[apete6]

 

You got good points. But I don't think all of them are valid.

 

Increased revenue for owners like 1 million percent-I know 1,000,000 is an exaguration on your point but your point still has merit.

Players make way more than they used to without having to agree to a salary cap-true

Nearly every team got a new stadium, most had a great deal of public funding-I'm not sure that's such a good thing for the various communitiesHe's not working for the communities, he's working for the owners and, to some extent, the players

The Wild Card was implemented and has led to numerous wild card champions-The best thing he did

Baseball got some great TV and advertising revenues-true

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football, despite the lack of a salary cap- completely disagree. You have to be really smart in small markets. Minnesota has sucess but Kansas City has not. There are many teams that know they don't got a chance every year. While in football everybody thinks they got a chance.See my earlier post. I know everyone in football thinks they have a chance, but the actual results as far as competing in postseason play beg to differ

Baseball returned to Washington DC, the nation's capital-time will tell if this is a good thing. Others teams have failed here. After a few years the Nationals may be struggling financially too.But, MLB will no longer have to foot the bill because they sold the team at a profit to the new owners. Also, its not their problem if the team has $ problems anymore, unless it makes them lower the payroll to Marlin-like numbers

Attendance is at its highest point ever, both in terms of total attendance and % of seats sold-true

 

He has done good things but I think baseball could do better with someone else.

 

I'm not Selig's biggest fan, but I think he gets a bad rap. Most of the bad things that have happened to baseball (steroids, no salary cap, etc) have been a function of the Players Union being so hard headed. The owner can't just use his "good for the game clause" to make steroid testing mandatory or install a salary cap because the players would just strike right away. Whoever the commissioner is will face the same problems.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Competitive balance has been nearly as good as football,.

bhwhahahhahahahahahah...good one.

 

Actually there was an article on ESPN saying that a higher percentage of baseball teams made the playoffs in baseball since either 1998 or 2000.

 

Also, the Patriots are going to win their 4th Super Bowl in like 8 years and baseball had a different champion every year from 2000-2006 with the Red Sox finally winning their 2nd this year to break the trend.

 

The Patriots are an anonmoly. Everyone gets a piece of the pie on the NFL, and in theory any team has a legit shot to win it all regardless of their market size. This is simply not true in baseball.

[apete6]

Here's a decent article about competitive balance in baseball. From 2003, but has a lot of good points comparing baseball over time and to football since 1981.

 

http://www.slate.com/id/2088929