2008 College Football

[Soul]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

[CuseCubFan69]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

[CubbieBum]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

 

Yep, why change and lose millions (why I'm not that mad about ND not joining a conference). And OSU played the 53rd and 38th toughest schedules the last two years. By no means tough but not cupcakes either.

[Soul]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

 

Yep, why change and lose millions (why I'm not that mad about ND not joining a conference). And OSU played the 53rd and 38th toughest schedules the last two years. By no means tough but not cupcakes either.

 

How about someone doing something revolutionary and acting in the best interest of the sport instead of for their own selfish financial interests? Just a thought.

[SpongeWorthy]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

 

Yep, why change and lose millions (why I'm not that mad about ND not joining a conference). And OSU played the 53rd and 38th toughest schedules the last two years. By no means tough but not cupcakes either.

 

How about someone doing something revolutionary and acting in the best interest of the sport instead of for their own selfish financial interests? Just a thought.

 

That's a contradiction in terms. Whatever is in the best interest of the sport is whatever is going to create the biggest financial windfall. Then again the NCAA purports not to be a business which is a huge farce in and of itself.

 

Although I would argue that instituting a playoff system makes everyone richer besides certain bowl committees.

[Soul]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

 

Yep, why change and lose millions (why I'm not that mad about ND not joining a conference). And OSU played the 53rd and 38th toughest schedules the last two years. By no means tough but not cupcakes either.

 

How about someone doing something revolutionary and acting in the best interest of the sport instead of for their own selfish financial interests? Just a thought.

 

That's a contradiction in terms. Whatever is in the best interest of the sport is whatever is going to create the biggest financial windfall. Then again the NCAA purports not to be a business which is a huge farce in and of itself.

 

Although I would argue that instituting a playoff system makes everyone richer besides certain bowl committees.

 

It's not a contradiction in terms. You basically agreed with me. Notice I said *SELFISH* financial interests.

[Guest]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

[Soul]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

 

Ugh, I just don't want to see them in the title game again this year. Someone needs to stop 'em. I'm not really a OSU hater, but someone else plz.

[CubbieBum]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

I'm all for adding a championship game to the Big Ten, or else adding a +1 format to the BCS. I wish they'd just stop with all the excuses and do it. There shouldn't be a way for a team to simply slide from their conference schedule right into the Championship game with no other buffer at all.

 

No incentive for the Big 10 to do so though. They get 2 teams in the BCS every year by keeping the status quo.

 

Yep, why change and lose millions (why I'm not that mad about ND not joining a conference). And OSU played the 53rd and 38th toughest schedules the last two years. By no means tough but not cupcakes either.

 

How about someone doing something revolutionary and acting in the best interest of the sport instead of for their own selfish financial interests? Just a thought.

 

because no one else would and the NCAA isn't the first organization the many teams belonged to. At least in the Big Ten the schools belonged to the conference first and therefore they do what is best for the conference.

[Guest]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

 

Ugh, I just don't want to see them in the title game again this year. Someone needs to stop 'em. I'm not really a OSU hater, but someone else plz.

 

I agree and I don't want to see them in the title game either. But if they go to LA and beat USC, they'll certainly have earned it.

[Soul]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

 

Ugh, I just don't want to see them in the title game again this year. Someone needs to stop 'em. I'm not really a OSU hater, but someone else plz.

 

I agree and I don't want to see them in the title game either. But if they go to LA and beat USC, they'll certainly have earned it.

 

Badgers'll stop 'em at Camp Randall in an upset. I'm calling it right here. Hey, you gotta step out sometime. :mrgreen:

[CuseCubFan69]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

 

Ugh, I just don't want to see them in the title game again this year. Someone needs to stop 'em. I'm not really a OSU hater, but someone else plz.

 

I agree and I don't want to see them in the title game either. But if they go to LA and beat USC, they'll certainly have earned it.

 

Badgers'll stop 'em at Camp Randall in an upset. I'm calling it right here. Hey, you gotta step out sometime. :mrgreen:

 

Tell me If I'm wrong gentlemen, but didn't they lose a game before the BCS Championship last year? By no means do they have to go undefeated.

[SpongeWorthy]

Remember, Ohio State wasn't supposed to be much last year because all their players left, too. They wound up in the National Championship game, because they've got the program that keeps brining in the talent.

 

Also, a heinous schedule and no conference championship game.

 

If they go to the NC game again this year and get killed, something is going to have to be done about it.

 

If they go undefeated, they'll have earned it since that would mean they went to LA and beat USC. If they can do that and then run the table, I'll have no problem with OSU being in the title game.

 

Ugh, I just don't want to see them in the title game again this year. Someone needs to stop 'em. I'm not really a OSU hater, but someone else plz.

 

I agree and I don't want to see them in the title game either. But if they go to LA and beat USC, they'll certainly have earned it.

 

Badgers'll stop 'em at Camp Randall in an upset. I'm calling it right here. Hey, you gotta step out sometime. :mrgreen:

 

Tell me If I'm wrong gentlemen, but didn't they lose a game before the BCS Championship last year? By no means do they have to go undefeated.

 

Yes, I agree with this. I don't buy the argument that Ohio State must go undefeated to go to the BCS title game again. The coaches and Harris pollsters aren't going to collude and vote differently than then would have in previous years just because OSU got spanked two years in a row. And obviously that won't be a consideration for the computers.

 

Which isn't to say that a one-loss OSU is by any means a shoe in since so many other variables are involved but they're not going to be excluded because of what happened the last two seasons.

[shnsajax]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3458435

 

Early bowl predictions.

 

2 Big 10, Big 12, ACC, and SEC teams in BCS games.

[snoodmonger]

I think Texas Tech is being overrated by many. If there's a second BCS team from the Big XII, I expect it to be the North winner. Most likely that will be Missouri, who has the soft Big XII North schedule this year (and is, sadly, damn good regardless.) I'll be shocked if they have more than 2 losses going into the bowl season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think Texas Tech is being overrated by many. If there's a second BCS team from the Big XII, I expect it to be the North winner. Most likely that will be Missouri, who has the soft Big XII North schedule this year (and is, sadly, damn good regardless.) I'll be shocked if they have more than 2 losses going into the bowl season.

 

I agree about Tech. They're going to be good enough to beat anyone on any day, but I haven't seen anything from them that would lead me to believe they can play defense consistently enough to challenge for the Conference title(of course, you could've said the same thing about Mizzou before last season).

 

As far as Mizzou goes, they don't draw the toughest part of the south(Texas, Baylor, OSU), but they still have 3 non-home games against ranked teams(@Texas, Kansas and Illinois at neutral sites), plus they haven't won in Lincoln since we landed on the moon or something. They've still got to be favorites for the North though, as they didn't lose much from the best team last year, and their best competition both have rough schedules(KU plays Texas, OU, and Texas Tech; Colorado has a brutal non-con, and has to travel to KU and Mizzou).

[shnsajax]

I think Texas Tech is being overrated by many. If there's a second BCS team from the Big XII, I expect it to be the North winner. Most likely that will be Missouri, who has the soft Big XII North schedule this year (and is, sadly, damn good regardless.) I'll be shocked if they have more than 2 losses going into the bowl season.

 

I agree about Tech. They're going to be good enough to beat anyone on any day, but I haven't seen anything from them that would lead me to believe they can play defense consistently enough to challenge for the Conference title(of course, you could've said the same thing about Mizzou before last season).

 

As far as Mizzou goes, they don't draw the toughest part of the south(Texas, Baylor, OSU), but they still have 3 non-home games against ranked teams(@Texas, Kansas and Illinois at neutral sites), plus they haven't won in Lincoln since we landed on the moon or something. They've still got to be favorites for the North though, as they didn't lose much from the best team last year, and their best competition both have rough schedules(KU plays Texas, OU, and Texas Tech; Colorado has a brutal non-con, and has to travel to KU and Mizzou).

 

I kind of disagree on Tech simply because I think one of these years they are going to put it all together for a good period during the season. They always have that one great game every year, just a matter of doing it for an extended period of time. They should be better than last season. If they can even win the South though, that will be tough enough for them. I don't know if I really see two teams from the South making BCS games this year with Mizzou on the other side.

[Derwood]

holy crap, if Penn State plays Tennessee (again) in the Outback Bowl (again) I just might shoot myself

[snoodmonger]

I think Texas Tech is being overrated by many. If there's a second BCS team from the Big XII, I expect it to be the North winner. Most likely that will be Missouri, who has the soft Big XII North schedule this year (and is, sadly, damn good regardless.) I'll be shocked if they have more than 2 losses going into the bowl season.

 

I agree about Tech. They're going to be good enough to beat anyone on any day, but I haven't seen anything from them that would lead me to believe they can play defense consistently enough to challenge for the Conference title(of course, you could've said the same thing about Mizzou before last season).

 

As far as Mizzou goes, they don't draw the toughest part of the south(Texas, Baylor, OSU), but they still have 3 non-home games against ranked teams(@Texas, Kansas and Illinois at neutral sites), plus they haven't won in Lincoln since we landed on the moon or something. They've still got to be favorites for the North though, as they didn't lose much from the best team last year, and their best competition both have rough schedules(KU plays Texas, OU, and Texas Tech; Colorado has a brutal non-con, and has to travel to KU and Mizzou).

 

I wasn't trying to suggest they have a soft schedule. Just that they got soft rotation of the Big XII. I don't see them losing to Nebraska. Illinois, maybe. Texas, maybe, though Texas needs to step up big time from last year. Kansas, maybe, though my money is on Mizzou. Basically, I could see them losing one of those games and the Big XII title game.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yay West Virginia

[CubbieBum]

Yay West Virginia

 

good luck with that

[Vanilla Ice]

Yay West Virginia

 

good luck with that

don't you like purdue?

 

if so, enough out of you

[CubbieBum]

Yay West Virginia

 

good luck with that

don't you like purdue?

 

if so, enough out of you

 

Yes I do. Why that matters I don't know. I just can't see West Virginia playing up to their talent level because they personnel that fits a unique very uncommon offensive system.

 

BTW this is one of the main reasons I really hate ND. They win three games yet experts, and I'm using that loosely, have them ranked in pre-season polls.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3459463

[CubColtPacer]

Yay West Virginia

 

good luck with that

don't you like purdue?

 

if so, enough out of you

 

Yes I do. Why that matters I don't know. I just can't see West Virginia playing up to their talent level because they personnel that fits a unique very uncommon offensive system.

 

BTW this is one of the main reasons I really hate ND. They win three games yet experts, and I'm using that loosely, have them ranked in pre-season polls.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3459463

 

They won't be ranked in the actual polls. If you look at the pre-season polls compared to their final ranking though, ND hasn't been consistently overranked. The years they've been ranked to start the season, they've been unranked to finish. When they've been unranked to start, they climbed into the rankings to finish. So they've been overrated in some years at the beginning of the season, and they equally have been underrated in some other years.

[TruffleShuffle]

is texas tech running their usual non-conference gauntlet of sam houston st., smu, southwest arkansas st. and northwestern st.?