Mark DeRosa On ESPN Radio AM 1000

[killthegoat06]

They need to get that boy out there shagging balls at SS right now. I don't care if it's dark.

 

...or snowy. Does he live here in the offseason?

[Bluescale]

im telling you it wont continue.

 

yeah you told us it wouldn't happen last year, solid forecast there

 

It's a fair statement to expect some regression from someone with a BABIP above .340. As far as whether or not he should stick as a starter, there's no doubt, even if he regresses to league avg. (around .260 EqA for 2B), he'll be miles ahead of Cedeno, Theriot, and Fontenot.

 

But not Roberts. That's the person who will push him from the starting lineup. Cedeno, Theriot or Fontenot will not start at 2B. And I don't buy that DeRosa can play an acceptable SS.

[SABR Gamer]

I don't know, I like DeRosa, and I do think it's possible that he will play well again next year, but I don't think it's a given. I talked to a guy that does some private hitting lessons with DeRo, he said that DeRo is really not a very good baseball player, he's just a ridiculous athlete which helps him compensate for his lack of baseball ability. If you ask me, I'd rather have a guy who is a really good "baseball player" like Roberts than an "athlete" because the ball player is most likely going to out perform and be more consistent than the athlete.

 

Roberts is a much better athlete than Derosa (minus strength).

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

[UK1679666180]

Roberts would push him, although the improvements would be based more on having the higher OBP at the top ahead of the better hitters moreso than Roberts replacing Derosa's bat in the lineup. Plus, the Cubs have to get him, which I typically believe when I see.

[UK1679666180]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

[SABR Gamer]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

 

I'm telling you that a guy who personally does training lessons with Mark DeRosa told me that he lacks a lot of the "baseball ability" and makes up for it with his athletic ability, this is not my quote this is a guy who personally trains him, so I'd say that it's gotta be pretty accurate.

[UK1679666180]

To get to the majors, you have to be somewhat athletic.

 

I don't know the context of what he means by athletic. Does he mean athletic as far as hand eye coord., balance, etc. at the plate (which is baseball ability)? Or does he mean his ability to run, throw, etc?

 

In the context of every day life, he's def. more athletic and gifted than an avg. person. As far as a major league player, his physical abilities (speed, arm strength, agility) are not superior than most especially middle infielders.

[David]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

 

I'm telling you that a guy who personally does training lessons with Mark DeRosa told me that he lacks a lot of the "baseball ability" and makes up for it with his athletic ability, this is not my quote this is a guy who personally trains him, so I'd say that it's gotta be pretty accurate.

 

 

Just FYI, let's just say Ping knows what he's talking about, too.

[Bluescale]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

 

I'm telling you that a guy who personally does training lessons with Mark DeRosa told me that he lacks a lot of the "baseball ability" and makes up for it with his athletic ability, this is not my quote this is a guy who personally trains him, so I'd say that it's gotta be pretty accurate.

 

Is your friend in the majors?

[SABR Gamer]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

 

I'm telling you that a guy who personally does training lessons with Mark DeRosa told me that he lacks a lot of the "baseball ability" and makes up for it with his athletic ability, this is not my quote this is a guy who personally trains him, so I'd say that it's gotta be pretty accurate.

 

Is your friend in the majors?

 

He's not a friend, his company trains pro prospects and the Houston Astros scouts help run it. He does lessons with a few MLB players, including DeRo. I worked with him until i had surgery to repair my labrum which I am rehabbing from atm.

[SABR Gamer]

To get to the majors, you have to be somewhat athletic.

 

I don't know the context of what he means by athletic. Does he mean athletic as far as hand eye coord., balance, etc. at the plate (which is baseball ability)? Or does he mean his ability to run, throw, etc?

 

In the context of every day life, he's def. more athletic and gifted than an avg. person. As far as a major league player, his physical abilities (speed, arm strength, agility) are not superior than most especially middle infielders.

 

hmm, the best way to describe the difference in DeRosa's athletic ability and other MLB players is that, DeRo is the kind of guy who could basically play any sport he wanted to at an extremely high level, a lot of MLB players are amazing baseball players but bad at other sports, DeRo may not be more naturally athletic but he's more of an athletic freak than your every day MLB player.

[SABR Gamer]

 

Even more reason to acquire him. My point was just that all DeRosa is is a pure athlete with not much baseball ability, I mean if you ever look at his swing technicalities they are not pretty.

 

He has baseball abilities, just not real toolsy (not real fast, avg. arm, ok hands)

 

I tend to brush hitting mechanics to the side, if he can center the ball and drive it, which Derosa does well.

 

I don't mind them looking @ Roberts (depending on cost) as it gives the Cubs needed depth espec. as a bat off the bench and a good player who can play mult. positions. This team will suffer injuries next year and he will have value in that role.

 

I'm telling you that a guy who personally does training lessons with Mark DeRosa told me that he lacks a lot of the "baseball ability" and makes up for it with his athletic ability, this is not my quote this is a guy who personally trains him, so I'd say that it's gotta be pretty accurate.

 

 

Just FYI, let's just say Ping knows what he's talking about, too.

 

When the Astros are consulting Ping about which prospects are legit then I will believe his opinion is more reliable than my guy.

[UK1679666180]

DeRo may not be more naturally athletic but he's more of an athletic freak than your every day MLB player.

 

I have no idea what this sentence means.

 

I agree with the guy who works with/for the Stros as far as lacking baseball ability to an extent. Nothing stands out as far as his instinct & he's not Theriot as far as fundamentals. But, he's strong and knows how to center and drive the ball and with those qualities combined with his versatility to play several positions, he's a quality guy to have. Until they upgrade, he's their best 2B option.

[SABR Gamer]

DeRo may not be more naturally athletic but he's more of an athletic freak than your every day MLB player.

 

I have no idea what this sentence means.

 

I agree with the guy who works the Stros as far as lacking baseball ability to an extent. Nothing stands out as far as his instinct & he's not Theriot as far as fundamentals. But, he's strong and knows how to center and drive the ball and with those qualities combined with his versatility to play several positions, he's a quality guy to have. Until they upgrade, he's their best 2B option.

 

hmm, yeah, like i said i dont know how to explain it, i know what i mean but i cant think of how to say it, i guess i mean like he's not the top tier in terms of speed, jumping, strength, and whatnot, but he has an ability to just pick up anything and naturally be really good at it that most people don't have, eh I guess thats how i can explain it.

 

 

Edit: yeah I think your explanation about nothing standing out as a way to explain the lack of baseball ability thing.

[hankp101]

Didn't DeRosa start for a few years at QB for Penn?

[BCVM22]

Didn't DeRosa start for a few years at QB for Penn?

 

Starting QB 1993-1995

[David]

 

When the Astros are consulting Ping about which prospects are legit then I will believe his opinion is more reliable than my guy.

 

 

Hmmm.... Irony

 

 

Well, actually, I'm not sure it's the Astros, but yea.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

When the Astros are consulting Ping about which prospects are legit then I will believe his opinion is more reliable than my guy.

 

 

Hmmm.... Irony

 

 

Well, actually, I'm not sure it's the Astros, but yea.

 

Yeah that was awesome.

[brinoch]

lol

[Mephistopheles]

we need a classic threads board, this thread deserves to be enshrined in it.

[Guest]

That was great.

[SABR Gamer]

 

When the Astros are consulting Ping about which prospects are legit then I will believe his opinion is more reliable than my guy.

 

 

Hmmm.... Irony

 

 

Well, actually, I'm not sure it's the Astros, but yea.

 

Yeah that was awesome.

 

Haven't been here long enough to know what you mean, inform me, I'm curious.

[USSoccer]

This is amazing. It's like the past 24 hours are some sort of Golden Age for humor.

[YearofDaCubs]

If only DeRosa could play SS, it would make a lot of sense to trade for Roberts. That way if we do get Fukudome, we still have the ability to upgrade CF or RF.