Mark DeRosa On ESPN Radio AM 1000

[jyoung55]

A thread on DeRo being on the radio gets turned into an argument on the desirability of getting Khalil Greene how?

[BigbadB]

A thread on DeRo being on the radio gets turned into an argument on the desirability of getting Khalil Greene how?

 

Easy. I asked Hoops if DeRo mentioned the possibility of playing SS, Meph mentioned that the Cubs should trade for Greene, someone else claimed Greene sucks offensively and defensively, everyone else thinks differently, voila.

[snoodmonger]

So if Lopez + Rausch/Cordero doesn't get it done, what does it take for Greene?

 

Pie + Cedeno? More? Less?

[nilodnayr]

So if Lopez + Rausch/Cordero doesn't get it done, what does it take for Greene?

 

Pie + Cedeno? More? Less?

 

I really don't understand how a Rauch/Cordero is all that valuable to San Deigo. The trade proposal makes no sense and we should not use it as a basis for anything for our proposal.

[BigbadB]

So if Lopez + Rausch/Cordero doesn't get it done, what does it take for Greene?

 

Pie + Cedeno? More? Less?

 

I'd say Pie, Cedeno and DeRosa with the Cubs picking up some of DeRosa's deal.

 

In other words, not worth the cost.

[A New Era]

Anyone have an audio clip of dero on the show?

[Omar]

Deja vu? Todd Walker was in the same exact situation.

[RedIvyCub]

The more I listen to DeRosa, the more I like him. He's an absolute class act. If we get Roberts and Fukudome, I hope he plays RF with Fukudome in CF. Use Pie and others to try and pry away Bedard as well Roberts.

 

He is a class act and it really stinks that he is being jerked around like this. Isn't something we haven't seen in the past though, right?

[98navigator]

Anyone have an audio clip of dero on the show?

 

The show's podcast will probably be available tomorrow if it isn't already available. He was on the Waddle & Silvy show. You can find it at ESPNAM1000.com

[98navigator]

The more I listen to DeRosa, the more I like him. He's an absolute class act. If we get Roberts and Fukudome, I hope he plays RF with Fukudome in CF. Use Pie and others to try and pry away Bedard as well Roberts.

 

He is a class act and it really stinks that he is being jerked around like this. Isn't something we haven't seen in the past though, right?

 

He does seem like a nice guy but I'm not sure he's being jerked around. DeRosa has spent the vast majority of his career being shuffled around the field so this should come as no surprise to him. I know the Cubs told him he would start at 2B, which he did to start the season (but his injury, coupled with the injuries and suspension of other players, helped to cement his role as super sub). Few teams will guarantee a player, especially one who can play multiple positions, that he'll never be moved.

 

I can recall some quotes by Lou last season that also lead me to believe that they told him he would have to sub when needed. Hell, I remember DeRo admitting as much in the first few interviews I heard from him.

[SABR Gamer]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

[Mephistopheles]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

 

Greene > DeRosa and it's not even close. DeRosa isn't good enough to be a starer. Jumbo Jimbo's right on this one.

[killthegoat06]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

 

Greene > DeRosa and it's not even close. DeRosa isn't good enough to be a starer. Jumbo Jimbo's right on this one.

I was very happy with Derosa's production as a 2B last year.

[Mephistopheles]

that's nice. it's irrelevant. stop thinking about it.

[TruffleShuffle]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

 

Greene > DeRosa and it's not even close. DeRosa isn't good enough to be a starer. Jumbo Jimbo's right on this one.

 

at SS? probably. At 2B that's not true, he had a .275-.280 EqA the last two years and an OBP above .350. He's plenty good enough to start at 2B.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

 

Damn, if you're gonna call out a poster like that...at least have some context at what is the discussion at hand.

[A New Era]

Greene > DeRosa and it's not even close. DeRosa isn't good enough to be a starer. Jumbo Jimbo's right on this one.

 

.293 .371 .420 .792 and 10 HR isn't good enough for 2B?

 

What kind of warped world do you live in?

[Mephistopheles]

im telling you it wont continue.

[killthegoat06]

im telling you it wont continue.

That's why we have to sell high and trade him this offseason.

[TruffleShuffle]

im telling you it wont continue.

 

yeah you told us it wouldn't happen last year, solid forecast there

[SABR Gamer]

what part of he bats right handed, doesn't get on base, strikes out too much, has a poor batting average & makes a lot of errors don't you understand?

 

Did you really just say that about DeRosa? If you had gained any credibilty on this board, I think you may have lost it. .371 obp, .293 ba, and he only made 6 errors all year at 2nd base, not that errors matter anyways, just from watching nearly every day I thought DeRo played 2nd base quite well. Please tell me I am mistaken and you are talking about someone else, but if your talking about DeRosa you are a moron.

 

 

Edit: I read ahead, and think you were talking about Greene, in that case I agree with what you said. I was just confused why anyone would think that about DeRosa, he's truly a quality player.

 

Damn, if you're gonna call out a poster like that...at least have some context at what is the discussion at hand.

 

 

 

heh yeah my bad, but now I'm gonna disagree with him anyway, I am going to contradict myself, I believe that Greene would be a good addition, so I don't know where that leaves me, double negative? I need to make my mind up before I post lol. And by the way, he was not clear about who he was referring to he never names anyone in his post, so it's a legitimate mistake.

Edited December 11, 2007 by New York Cubs Fan

[SABR Gamer]

I don't know, I like DeRosa, and I do think it's possible that he will play well again next year, but I don't think it's a given. I talked to a guy that does some private hitting lessons with DeRo, he said that DeRo is really not a very good baseball player, he's just a ridiculous athlete which helps him compensate for his lack of baseball ability. If you ask me, I'd rather have a guy who is a really good "baseball player" like Roberts than an "athlete" because the ball player is most likely going to out perform and be more consistent than the athlete.

[UK1679666180]

im telling you it wont continue.

 

yeah you told us it wouldn't happen last year, solid forecast there

 

It's a fair statement to expect some regression from someone with a BABIP above .340. As far as whether or not he should stick as a starter, there's no doubt, even if he regresses to league avg. (around .260 EqA for 2B), he'll be miles ahead of Cedeno, Theriot, and Fontenot.

[BigbadB]

They need to get that boy out there shagging balls at SS right now. I don't care if it's dark.

[UK1679666180]

I don't know, I like DeRosa, and I do think it's possible that he will play well again next year, but I don't think it's a given. I talked to a guy that does some private hitting lessons with DeRo, he said that DeRo is really not a very good baseball player, he's just a ridiculous athlete which helps him compensate for his lack of baseball ability. If you ask me, I'd rather have a guy who is a really good "baseball player" like Roberts than an "athlete" because the ball player is most likely going to out perform and be more consistent than the athlete.

 

Roberts is a much better athlete than Derosa (minus strength).