College Football - Bowls (Non-BCS)

[CuseCubFan69]

I'd like to see all BCS teams schedule at least 2 BCS OOC teams, a home and an away.

 

That would pretty much ensure that no non-BCS conference school would ever make a BCS game again.

 

Not true. It still leaves room for them and let's face it, a lot of teams try to play the worst (Flor Int) they can. Also, by playing more BCS teams we would have more losses making a Hawaii or Boise St more attractive if they go undefeated.

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I'd like to see all BCS teams schedule at least 2 BCS OOC teams, a home and an away.

 

That would pretty much ensure that no non-BCS conference school would ever make a BCS game again.

 

Not true. It still leaves room for them and let's face it, a lot of teams try to play the worst (Flor Int) they can. Also, by playing more BCS teams we would have more losses making a Hawaii or Boise St more attractive if they go undefeated.

 

And because of that it would be even tougher for a Hawaii or a Boise State to schedule a good BCS team if they want to and we would have repeats of this year where Hawaii gets killed because they didn't play anybody. I mean, if you're Ohio State and you've already played, let's say a decent team from the Big 12 and another from the SEC, do you really want to play Hawaii on top of that? Of course not. So they'd go and schedule an Akron or a Youngstown State.

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[CuseCubFan69]

I'd like to see all BCS teams schedule at least 2 BCS OOC teams, a home and an away.

 

That would pretty much ensure that no non-BCS conference school would ever make a BCS game again.

 

Not true. It still leaves room for them and let's face it, a lot of teams try to play the worst (Flor Int) they can. Also, by playing more BCS teams we would have more losses making a Hawaii or Boise St more attractive if they go undefeated.

 

And because of that it would be even tougher for a Hawaii or a Boise State to schedule a good BCS team if they want to and we would have repeats of this year where Hawaii gets killed because they didn't play anybody. I mean, if you're Ohio State and you've already played, let's say a decent team from the Big 12 and another from the SEC, do you really want to play Hawaii on top of that? Of course not. So they'd go and schedule an Akron or a Youngstown State.

 

 

They don't play them anyways so what's the point? Not only that but a OSU or Florida would never do a home and home with them. My method is better than the 3 or 4 patsies most of the teams play at home.

[snoodmonger]

what they should do is stop letting teams avoid the other good teams in their conference. Like OU and Texas are pretty much good every year - a team from the Big XII north should have to play at least one of those teams in a season. Same with the Big Ten - nobody should be able to play the entire schedule without facing either Ohio State or Michigan.

 

That's silly. If they used that logic, everybody in the Big XII south would've played Nebraska or Colorado. None of these programs are guaranteed to be good.

 

The imbalanced schedule is a problem, but that's not a solution.

 

nebraska and colorado haven't been very good in recent years. texas and oklahoma have.

 

 

Fine, then who are the sure thing teams in the BXII north that everyone has to play? There aren't any. Just like there aren't any sure things in the south, either. The John Blake/Howard Schnellenberger OU days aren't that long ago. It's a silly proposition. There are no "surefire" good teams.

[bukie]

what they should do is stop letting teams avoid the other good teams in their conference. Like OU and Texas are pretty much good every year - a team from the Big XII north should have to play at least one of those teams in a season. Same with the Big Ten - nobody should be able to play the entire schedule without facing either Ohio State or Michigan.

 

That's silly. If they used that logic, everybody in the Big XII south would've played Nebraska or Colorado. None of these programs are guaranteed to be good.

 

The imbalanced schedule is a problem, but that's not a solution.

 

nebraska and colorado haven't been very good in recent years. texas and oklahoma have.

 

 

Fine, then who are the sure thing teams in the BXII north that everyone has to play? There aren't any. Just like there aren't any sure things in the south, either. The John Blake/Howard Schnellenberger OU days aren't that long ago. It's a silly proposition. There are no "surefire" good teams.

 

Yeah, basically the only way to "guarantee" good games intradivision would be a logistics nightmare, like playing everyone in your division first, and then setting up the intradivisional schedule after that based on those results.

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I'd like to see all BCS teams schedule at least 2 BCS OOC teams, a home and an away.

 

That would pretty much ensure that no non-BCS conference school would ever make a BCS game again.

 

Not true. It still leaves room for them and let's face it, a lot of teams try to play the worst (Flor Int) they can. Also, by playing more BCS teams we would have more losses making a Hawaii or Boise St more attractive if they go undefeated.

 

And because of that it would be even tougher for a Hawaii or a Boise State to schedule a good BCS team if they want to and we would have repeats of this year where Hawaii gets killed because they didn't play anybody. I mean, if you're Ohio State and you've already played, let's say a decent team from the Big 12 and another from the SEC, do you really want to play Hawaii on top of that? Of course not. So they'd go and schedule an Akron or a Youngstown State.

 

 

They don't play them anyways so what's the point? Not only that but a OSU or Florida would never do a home and home with them. My method is better than the 3 or 4 patsies most of the teams play at home.

 

USC did a home and home with Hawaii a couple years ago - 03 and 05.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'd like to see all BCS teams schedule at least 2 BCS OOC teams, a home and an away.

 

That would pretty much ensure that no non-BCS conference school would ever make a BCS game again.

 

Not true. It still leaves room for them and let's face it, a lot of teams try to play the worst (Flor Int) they can. Also, by playing more BCS teams we would have more losses making a Hawaii or Boise St more attractive if they go undefeated.

 

And because of that it would be even tougher for a Hawaii or a Boise State to schedule a good BCS team if they want to and we would have repeats of this year where Hawaii gets killed because they didn't play anybody. I mean, if you're Ohio State and you've already played, let's say a decent team from the Big 12 and another from the SEC, do you really want to play Hawaii on top of that? Of course not. So they'd go and schedule an Akron or a Youngstown State.

 

 

They don't play them anyways so what's the point? Not only that but a OSU or Florida would never do a home and home with them. My method is better than the 3 or 4 patsies most of the teams play at home.

 

USC did a home and home with Hawaii a couple years ago - 03 and 05.

 

And USC usually plays a lot of good teams while the ones I mentioned do not. Plus, by scheduling in advance how do you really know who's going to be really good or not? If Jones leaves Hawaii they may fall right off the map.

[jaydee]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

[CuseCubFan69]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

[Exile on Waveland]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

You might want to check other thread's for OSU's past schedules; they always play at least one BCS team, and it's usually a good one. Florida also plays FSU every year, and I believe they play Hawaii next year.

 

And USC plays ND every year. It'll be in LA next year.

[Mephistopheles]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

You might want to check other thread's for OSU's past schedules; they always play at least one BCS team, and it's usually a good one. Florida also plays FSU every year, and I believe they play Hawaii next year.

 

And USC plays ND every year. It'll be in LA next year.

 

Florida plays Miami, Hawaii and Florida State next year.

[SouthSideRyan]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

Jesu, Cuse you won't be satisfied until every team in the Big 10 and SEC plays top 25 teams on the road for all their noncon games. How bout you rail on those world beaters in your conference a bit.

[SouthSideRyan]

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Grit? What happened to lefty?

[CuseCubFan69]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

Jesu, Cuse you won't be satisfied until every team in the Big 10 and SEC plays top 25 teams on the road for all their noncon games. How bout you rail on those world beaters in your conference a bit.

 

I want all of them, BE included to do so. Rutgers was the only BE team not to play at least 2 other BCS schools OOC.

[Exile on Waveland]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

You might want to check other thread's for OSU's past schedules; they always play at least one BCS team, and it's usually a good one. Florida also plays FSU every year, and I believe they play Hawaii next year.

 

And USC plays ND every year. It'll be in LA next year.

 

Florida plays Miami, Hawaii and Florida State next year.

 

Didn't know they played Miami again. That's certainly not ducking people, regardless of how strong those programs are. Especially when coupled with an SEC schedule.

 

There are many culprits in weak scheduling. But OSU, USC and Florida are not among them.

[Derwood]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

You might want to check other thread's for OSU's past schedules; they always play at least one BCS team, and it's usually a good one. Florida also plays FSU every year, and I believe they play Hawaii next year.

 

And USC plays ND every year. It'll be in LA next year.

 

Florida plays Miami, Hawaii and Florida State next year.

 

Didn't know they played Miami again. That's certainly not ducking people, regardless of how strong those programs are. Especially when coupled with an SEC schedule.

 

There are many culprits in weak scheduling. But OSU, USC and Florida are not among them.

 

it wasn't ducking people when they scheduled them, but they're catching Miami and FSU in down years. If we're going to penalize OSU for Washington, we'll have to do the same with Florida if those two programs go 7-5

[SouthSideRyan]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

Jesu, Cuse you won't be satisfied until every team in the Big 10 and SEC plays top 25 teams on the road for all their noncon games. How bout you rail on those world beaters in your conference a bit.

 

I want all of them, BE included to do so. Rutgers was the only BE team not to play at least 2 other BCS schools OOC.

 

Nitpick, Cincy only played 1 OOC. With the Big East only playing 7 conference games, they pretty much have to play 1 BCS school OOC just to be equal to other BCS conferences.

[NCCubFan]

when you're a fan of a football program like Kentucky's, non-BCS bowls are still pretty big. after the 6-1 start, i'd thought they do better than a return trip to the Music City Bowl, but oh well. better than nothing, i guess.

It's still tw years in a row for Kentucky going to a bowl game. I don't think that's happened since the Tim Couch era.

 

My three favorite teams (Ball State, Indiana, and Kentucky) are all going bowling. I don't think that's ever happened before.

Ball State's only been to two before, so that's a pretty good bet.

Actually it's three (California Bowl in 1989; Las Vegas Bowl in 1993 and 1996).

 

Or maybe you were talking about DIFFERENT bowls and not counting repeat appearances in the same bowl. :wink:

Huh, no, I thought it was two. Interesting.

 

Never won one though, I don't think. But that's gonna change.

 

Toronto's going to rock. Are you going to try and go, NCCubFan?

You're right that they haven't won a bowl game yet. They lost to Fresno State (27-6) in the 89 California Bowl, to Utah State (42-33) in the 93 Las Vegas Bowl, and to Nevada (18-15) in the 96 Las Vegas Bowl. Their best chance to win a bowl game probably would have been in 78 when they went undefeated in the MAC and 10-1 overall, but the nonconference loss (to Louisiana Tech) probably cost them a bowl bid. That may have been the best team in school history, but the MAC didn't have a bowl deal in place. They did a few years earlier with the Tangerine Bowl (later renamed the Florida Citrus Bowl), but that deal expired, and it was a few years before the MAC got another bowl deal (with the California Bowl, later the Las Vegas Bowl, and finally the Motor City Bowl). Back then there were only about half as many bowl games as there are now, so some of the lesser conferences didn't always have deals in place.

 

At this time I don't anticipate going to the game, but I haven't decided for sure. It would be a long trip from North Carolina in the winter, although it might not cost too much to fly. I'll decide for sure once I see what the cost is for the alumni packages they mentioned they'd have through the Alumni Association.

[Andy]

I just found out today that I'll be able to tag along with the Daily News people who are going up on Jan. 2nd...meaning I get two full days in Toronto before the game, and the hotel is comped. Ohh, yeah. 8-)

 

NC, if you do buy a ticket I'd encourage you to go through ballstatesports.com - if they don't sell their 10K ticket allotment (no chance they will) they have to pay for each ticket that goes unsold. $40 tickets and you get lower level seats. :)

[CuseCubFan69]

i think USC and OSU are playing a home and home the next two years right? should be good, the nations top two programs going at it in non-bowl games

 

It's a good start! I'm sure USC is also playing ND....is OSU playing any other BCS team?

 

Jesu, Cuse you won't be satisfied until every team in the Big 10 and SEC plays top 25 teams on the road for all their noncon games. How bout you rail on those world beaters in your conference a bit.

 

I want all of them, BE included to do so. Rutgers was the only BE team not to play at least 2 other BCS schools OOC.

 

Nitpick, Cincy only played 1 OOC. With the Big East only playing 7 conference games, they pretty much have to play 1 BCS school OOC just to be equal to other BCS conferences.

 

You're right, Cincy did too.

 

The BE all play each other though and until the other schools do I see that as a tradeoff. I do agree that the BE should play 3 OOC BCS games each year.

[Derwood]

i am 0% excited about this PSU vs. aTm matchup.

[Flames24Rulz]

This Appalachian State-Richmond game has been very entertaining so far.

[Mephistopheles]

how many times was the michigan game mentioned