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Some of the angst surrounding trading both Marshall and Gallagher (which has yet to be seen) is based on the idea that the Cubs would be left thin in the starting rotation. It doesn't take into consideration that the Cubs may acquire a quality starter that makes Marquis a decent fifth starter option. As stated earlier, if the Cubs start the season with Marquis and Dempster in the rotation I will be disappointed but I'm trying to not get upset until I see how this offseason ends...

 

If we have enough prospects to do this after the Roberts deal, I will be very happy.

 

There are rumors that ML players could be used to acquire a starter (or at least be the center piece). The AJ Burnett talk mentions DeRosa and Dempster (and perhaps others). The Cubs have parts to trade however, some of the trades could leave them thin against injury and or ineffectiveness.

 

 

I like DeRosa but I'm for just about any trade for a decent starter that includes Dempster. I predict his luck (high save % with a 5+ ERA) runs out this year. Dump him while you can.

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Some of the angst surrounding trading both Marshall and Gallagher (which has yet to be seen) is based on the idea that the Cubs would be left thin in the starting rotation. It doesn't take into consideration that the Cubs may acquire a quality starter that makes Marquis a decent fifth starter option. As stated earlier, if the Cubs start the season with Marquis and Dempster in the rotation I will be disappointed but I'm trying to not get upset until I see how this offseason ends...

 

BTW, Mike Murphy will have some guy on from the Baltimore Sun soon. Listen live

The guy probably won't be able to verify anything but it might be a good listen.

 

That's a real big risk to take, you might end up getting Jeromy Burnitzed.

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This thread is going to hit 100 pages before the deal even goes down. Ridiculous.

 

But it's buoyed by ~20 pages of angst-filled posts about the length of the thread. So that makes it all better.

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Some of the angst surrounding trading both Marshall and Gallagher (which has yet to be seen) is based on the idea that the Cubs would be left thin in the starting rotation. It doesn't take into consideration that the Cubs may acquire a quality starter that makes Marquis a decent fifth starter option. As stated earlier, if the Cubs start the season with Marquis and Dempster in the rotation I will be disappointed but I'm trying to not get upset until I see how this offseason ends...

 

BTW, Mike Murphy will have some guy on from the Baltimore Sun soon. Listen live

The guy probably won't be able to verify anything but it might be a good listen.

 

That's a real big risk to take, you might end up getting Jeromy Burnitzed.

 

getting jeromy burnitzed in this situation is a guy with a 4.60 ERA as your #5 starter. I'll take it. We're not the Halos.

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This thread is going to hit 100 pages before the deal even goes down. Ridiculous.

 

But it's buoyed by ~20 pages of angst-filled posts about the length of the thread. So that makes it all better.

 

I'll do my part with this!

 

Anyway, even if Roberts gets traded I still won't believe that any of those people had inside information.

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Murphy is on now with Peter Shmuck from the Baltimore Sun..direct link to listen...

 

http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WSCRAM

 

The guy didn't really say anything of interest. IMO, he sounded like he was afraid to offend some of the O's fans by speculating on the trade. Either he doesn't know or he was keeping his true feelings close to the vest; at one point he admitted that the O's have been shopping Roberts for a position player(s) and pitching then he says he thinks it's "70%" that he doesn't get traded. Which is it?

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The guy is a feature columnist. 99% of the time, these columnists know jack anyways. They usually don't talk about sources, and they don't break stories. They just write opinion pieces and (depending on the guy) often just like to stir up controversy. News-wise, they usually have little of substance to offer. Think Jay Mariotti or Rick Morrissey. Edited by David
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i can't wait until Premium is turned back on so this thread can go back down to 60 pages

 

I don't know if that's going to be true. On the old forum software, regular users only saw 15 posts per page. Premium users saw more (was it 20 or 25?). Now, everybody is going to see at least 25 per page, as that is the standard length for this version of the software. On the old regular forum, this thread would have been 151 pages long already.

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i can't wait until Premium is turned back on so this thread can go back down to 60 pages

 

I don't know if that's going to be true. On the old forum software, regular users only saw 15 posts per page. Premium users saw more (was it 20 or 25?). Now, everybody is going to see at least 25 per page, as that is the standard length for this version of the software. On the old regular forum, this thread would have been 151 pages long already.

 

don't dash my dreams!

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This trade seems like it is dragging on forever. It would be funny if it falls through after all of this speculation.
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Murphy is on now with Peter Shmuck from the Baltimore Sun..direct link to listen...

 

http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WSCRAM

 

The guy didn't really say anything of interest. IMO, he sounded like he was afraid to offend some of the O's fans by speculating on the trade. Either he doesn't know or he was keeping his true feelings close to the vest; at one point he admitted that the O's have been shopping Roberts for a position player(s) and pitching then he says he thinks it's "70%" that he doesn't get traded. Which is it?

 

So he refused to spout off a tirade of rumor and innuendo and present it as if he has "inside information" so everyone should just believe him?

 

There's a novel concept.

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Murphy is on now with Peter Shmuck from the Baltimore Sun..direct link to listen...

 

http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WSCRAM

 

The guy didn't really say anything of interest. IMO, he sounded like he was afraid to offend some of the O's fans by speculating on the trade. Either he doesn't know or he was keeping his true feelings close to the vest; at one point he admitted that the O's have been shopping Roberts for a position player(s) and pitching then he says he thinks it's "70%" that he doesn't get traded. Which is it?

 

So he refused to spout off a tirade of rumor and innuendo and present it as if he has "inside information" so everyone should just believe him?

 

There's a novel concept.

 

 

What?

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So any guesses as to who our panic move 2B will be if the Roberts deal falls through?

 

 

Marcus Gi....

 

Oh, wait.

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