Rollins gets NL MVP

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Remember that time Jimmy Rollins was the most valuable player in the NL?

 

Neither do I, but he got the award anyway...

 

Link

[Guest]

Wow.

[OleMissCub]

I called it.

 

Matt Holliday is about to be robbed tomorrow

 

IMB! and Rocket Sauce were also correct in their assertions that Hanley and David Wright had better seasons as well.

[Outshined_One]

FTH?

 

He wasn't even the best shortstop in his division.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Eww, I had no idea he was quite this ugly...

 

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1120/mlb_u_rollins_412.jpg

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I also didn't realize until now that he was 5th on his team in OPS.

[OleMissCub]

FTH?

 

He wasn't even the best shortstop in his division.

 

No kidding. They gave him the gold glove to try and solidy his pick.

 

Anyone else notice ESPN homering hardcore for him the last week of the season?

 

Holliday:

.340/.405/.607, 150 ops+, 212 hits, 120 runs, 50 doubles, 36 hr, 137 rbi, 386 total bases

 

Rollins:

.296/.344/.531, 118 ops+, 212 hits, 139 runs, 38 doubles, 30 hr, 94 rbi, 380 total bases

 

Wright:

.325/.416/.546, 150 ops+, 196 hits, 113 runs, 42 doubles, 30 hr, 107 rbi, 330 total bases

 

Can someone look up the metrics for win shares and VORP for these guys.

 

Also, look at the guys that Rollins had around him. Howard, Utley, Rowand, etc. This isn't to say that Holliday didn't have some guys around him who were very good, but he clearly seems to have more value to his team than Rollins for the Phils.

[jaydee]

this makes no sense

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If I'm reading THT correctly,

 

VORP:

Wright - 81.1

Holliday - 75

Rollins - 66.1

 

WS:

Wright - 34

Holliday - 30

Rollins - 28

[jersey cubs fan]

FTH?

 

He wasn't even the best shortstop in his division.

 

No kidding. They gave him the gold glove to try and solidy his pick.

 

Anyone else notice ESPN homering hardcore for him the last week of the season?

 

Definitely. He was the ESPN consensus at the end. Maybe they feel they were burned from all their HR promoting and felt they needed a guy who adds the stolen base as a weapon into their stories.

[OleMissCub]

Not that it's the end all be all of stats, but Rollins' 118 OPS+ is the lowest of any MVP in either league since Zoilo Versalles in 1965.

[Geech]

These are the top 10 NL VORP leaders in order:

 

1.	Hanley Ramirez	89.5
2.	David Wright	81.1
3.	Chipper Jones	76.0
4.	Matt Holliday	75.0
5.	Albert Pujols	72.1
6.	Miguel Cabrera	71.4
7.	Prince Fielder	69.1
8.	Chase Utley	68.8
9.	Jimmy Rollins	66.1
10.	Ryan Braun	57.2

[TruffleShuffle]

10th place finish for hanley ramirez, and no votes above 5th place.... booooooooooo

[Burtonbell]

Travishamockiry

[Tracer Bullet]

10th place finish for hanley ramirez, and no votes above 5th place.... booooooooooo

 

no kidding.

[Roast]

Travishamockiry

Indeed, sir.

[Soul]

I don't think most voters for these awards even look at statistics. They just vote for whoever they feel should get it. There seems to be little or no actual objective analysis that goes on.

[Post Count Padder]

Amusingly enough, Marmol got a vote apparantly.

[UMFan83]

Amusingly enough, Marmol got a vote apparantly.

 

I just noticed that....good stuff!

 

Soriano got 39

Ramirez got 36

Marmol got 1

[Mephistopheles]

further proof america is full of raging dumbasses

[UMFan83]

Worst MVPs in recent memory:

 

2007 - Rollins, Phi (NL)

2006 - Morneau, Min (AL)

2002 - Tejada, Oak (AL)

2001 - Ichiro, Sea (AL)

2000 - Kent, SF (NL)

[Mephistopheles]

1998 - Sammy Sosa

[David]

Whoops Edited November 20, 2007 by David

[David]

1998 - Sammy Sosa

 

 

That one was bad, but it wasn't monumentally bad. Not nearly as ridiculous as Rollins winning it this year, IMO.

[Geech]

1998 - Sammy Sosa

That one was bad, but it wasn't monumentally bad. Not nearly as ridiculous as Rollins winning it this year, IMO.

 

Sosa was 7th in VORP that year and a whopping 36 runs worse than McGwire.