A-Rod for 30 million vs Soriano for 18 million

[imb]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

 

lol..wow.

[CUBZ99]

lenny harris has a WS ring. is he better than sammy sosa?

 

That is a terrible comparison. I don't think anybody in their right mind would make that argument. You are equally foolish if you don't think that it bothers ARod that he was on a team with a $200MM payroll for a few years and still couldn't get a ring.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

lenny harris has a WS ring. is he better than sammy sosa?

 

That is a terrible comparison. I don't think anybody in their right mind would make that argument. You are equally foolish if you don't think that it bothers ARod that he was on a team with a $200MM payroll for a few years and still couldn't get a ring.

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[Derwood]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

 

 

hmmmm, why would a player with more walks have fewer AB's........i'll get back to you when i figure it out

[frostwyrm]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

 

 

hmmmm, why would a player with more walks have fewer AB's........i'll get back to you when i figure it out

 

I've always thought that one of the weirdest things about baseball discussions is how infrequently plate appearances are used as a measure of playing time. Your hear people quote AB figures about 5 times more often PA figures when talking about playing time. I'll never understand that.

[Yanksfan1523]

 

ARod eqad .350 2 of the last 3 years. Manny hasn't done that in five years. Mannys EqA was 302 this year. ARod hasn't had a season that bad since 1999.

Career EqA: 329 to 323

 

not a big enough difference to account for Mannys brickwork in the OF

 

Also not a big enough of a difference to warrent 10-15 million more per season. IMHO

[Yanksfan1523]

Ah yes, who could forget the ever popular eqad numbers? When in doubt (you know when Manny is clearly better in his career in BA, OBP, SLG, OPS), all A-Rod fans have to pull something out there to make their boy look good.

 

Bottom line is Manny has the better numbers and he has two rings and a WS MVP. A-Rod? Great regular season player and he could go on to surpass Manny's career numbers one day, but unless he changes his attitude real quick.. he's a more talented version of Gary Sheffield, a clubhouse cancer who puts up great regular season numbers.

 

I think I love you.

[Mephistopheles]

Mephis.. please list all 25-30 runs Manny cost his team this season. Can you do that? You can't because that number doesn't exsist.

 

I love how people throw numbers out of thin air like that's the "official" number of runs he gave up. I can recite a number for you.. two. The number of errors Ramirez made this season. I can recite for you another number.. six. The number of errors Soriano made this year. Does that make Manny a better fielder? Of course not, but two errors don't make him horrible.

 

As far as defense in left or right goes, I will gladly take a guy with a career OPS over 1.000 with average at best skills in left over a guy who plays solid defensively but doesn't get on base nearly enough and has horrible pitch recognition skills to be considered a lead-off hitter.

 

Jaxxis.. please list all 40 runs Manny gave his team with his bat this season. Can you do that? You can't because that number doesn't exsist.

 

I love how people throw numbers our of thin air like that's the "official" number of runs he produced. I can recite a number for you.. two. The number of home runs Ramirez hit in close and late situations. I can recite for you another number.. six. The number of home runs Rodriguez had in those situations this year. Does that make Ramirez an inferior offensive player? Of course not, but two home runs does not make him perfect.

 

As far as defense goes in left or right, I will gladly take the guy with a career OPS around 850 with gold glove caliber skills in left field over a guy who costs his team a single every fifth game in the outfield with an OPS around 900.

[BigbadB]

Also, to judge a guy's ability to play defense by how many errors he had is a horrible way to judge a player's defensive ability.

 

There is an incredible amount of balls Manny doesn't get to because he's slow footed, take's horrible routes and gets himself into clumsy positions to make plays on fly balls.

 

They don't hand out errors for misplayed balls that go over your head.

 

Manny is a horrible fielder. The only reason he even plays the field anymore is because David Ortiz is an even worse 1b.

[USSoccer]

Ah yes, who could forget the ever popular eqad numbers? When in doubt (you know when Manny is clearly better in his career in BA, OBP, SLG, OPS), all A-Rod fans have to pull something out there to make their boy look good.

 

Bottom line is Manny has the better numbers and he has two rings and a WS MVP. A-Rod? Great regular season player and he could go on to surpass Manny's career numbers one day, but unless he changes his attitude real quick.. he's a more talented version of Gary Sheffield, a clubhouse cancer who puts up great regular season numbers.

 

This is high comedy.

 

-When has Alex Rodriguez ever, ever been described as a clubhouse cancer? The worst thing I've seen written anywhere is that he's aloof and image aware.

 

-Postseason success means nothing, unless you're prepared to concede that Ernie Banks, Stan Musial and Ron Santo are all inferior players because they have no titles.

 

-Manny Ramirez doesn't get charged for errors because he has no range, and therefore doesn't get close enough to routine plays to be charged for errors.

 

They are both great hitters, but ARod is a better player.

[USSoccer]

 

ARod eqad .350 2 of the last 3 years. Manny hasn't done that in five years. Mannys EqA was 302 this year. ARod hasn't had a season that bad since 1999.

Career EqA: 329 to 323

 

not a big enough difference to account for Mannys brickwork in the OF

 

Also not a big enough of a difference to warrent 10-15 million more per season. IMHO

 

Now factor in his age.

[Mephistopheles]

 

ARod eqad .350 2 of the last 3 years. Manny hasn't done that in five years. Mannys EqA was 302 this year. ARod hasn't had a season that bad since 1999.

Career EqA: 329 to 323

 

not a big enough difference to account for Mannys brickwork in the OF

 

Also not a big enough of a difference to warrent 10-15 million more per season. IMHO

 

Let's see, 40 runs on defense, give or take. ARods about ten runs better on offense these days, give or take. So a 50 run difference isn't worth fifteen million to you?

 

That's ludicrous.

[Sammy Sofa]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

 

Wow.

 

WOW.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

why haven't I been reading this thread?

[USSoccer]

Manny also has about 300 less career AB's than A-Rod yet has drawn 210 more walks than A-Rod over his career.

 

 

Hahahahahaha

 

This is awesome.

[Yanksfan1523]

 

ARod eqad .350 2 of the last 3 years. Manny hasn't done that in five years. Mannys EqA was 302 this year. ARod hasn't had a season that bad since 1999.

Career EqA: 329 to 323

 

not a big enough difference to account for Mannys brickwork in the OF

 

Also not a big enough of a difference to warrent 10-15 million more per season. IMHO

 

Let's see, 40 runs on defense, give or take. ARods about ten runs better on offense these days, give or take. So a 50 run difference isn't worth fifteen million to you?

 

That's ludicrous.

 

I don't get you ridiculas assesment of 40 defensive runs. Where is this from? How is it figured? I know you are a stats man, but show me this plaese. I have followed the post and don't see your logic. I don't see how it is measured.