College Football - Week of 11/3

[Mephistopheles]

The MephTen:

 

1. 9-1 Oregon (3-1)

2. 8-1 Louisiana State (4-1)

3. 10-0 Ohio State (1-0)

4. 8-1 Oklahoma (2-0)

5. 8-1 Arizona State (1-1)

6. 9-0 Kansas (0-0)

7. 6-3 Florida (2-3)

8. 7-1 West Virginia (0-1)

9. 8-1 Boston College (1-0)

10. 8-2 Michigan (2-1)

 

Record in parentheses is record vs top thirty teams.

 

The Mephman Top Five:

1. Dennis Dixon

2. Tim Tebow

3. Darren McFadden

4. Mike Hart

5. Sam Bradford

Edited November 4, 2007 by Mephistopheles

[Outshined_One]

I'm personally hoping for an Ohio State/Kansas national championship game. Kansas' football team playing for the national championship alone might rip a hole in the space-time continuum, but Ohio State is nowhere near as good as their rank, either.

 

It might actually be a good game!

[Mephistopheles]

I'm personally hoping for an Ohio State/Kansas national championship game. Kansas' football team playing for the national championship alone might rip a hole in the space-time continuum, but Ohio State is nowhere near as good as their rank, either.

 

It might actually be a good game!

 

It would also tell us absolutely nothing. Kansas would have played one or two real games and a lot of cupcakes (their schedule is STILL not top 100). Ditto for Ohio State, they would have pretty much run the table with a schedule that would be average for a mid-major conference team.

[Keener98]

The MephTen:

 

1. 9-1 Oregon (3-1)

2. 8-1 Louisiana State (4-1)

3. 10-0 Ohio State (1-0)

4. 8-1 Oklahoma (2-0)

5. 8-1 Arizona State (1-1)

6. 9-0 Kansas (0-0)

7. 6-3 Florida (2-3)

8. 7-1 West Virginia (0-1)

9. 8-1 Boston College (1-0)

10. 8-2 Michigan (2-1)

 

Record in parentheses is record vs top thirty teams.

 

The Mephman Top Five:

1. Dennis Dixon

2. Tim Tebow

3. Darren McFadden

4. Mike Hart

5. Sam Bradford

 

 

Guess that Nebraska vs KU was a mismatch huh wow

[Outshined_One]

I'm personally hoping for an Ohio State/Kansas national championship game. Kansas' football team playing for the national championship alone might rip a hole in the space-time continuum, but Ohio State is nowhere near as good as their rank, either.

 

It might actually be a good game!

 

It would also tell us absolutely nothing. Kansas would have played one or two real games and a lot of cupcakes (their schedule is STILL not top 100). Ditto for Ohio State, they would have pretty much run the table with a schedule that would be average for a mid-major conference team.

 

Indeed. I think that game would be a great motivation tool to get the NCAA up off its rear and implement some sort of tournament system. I honestly think most of the other eight teams you have listed would handily defeat either Ohio State or Kansas. However, if all things remain constant through the rest of the season, we might see Ohio State/Kansas in the national championship with Hawaii getting a BCS bid.

 

That would be problematic.

[Outshined_One]

Then again, in all fairness to Kansas, if they're undefeated by season's end, they'll have taken down two likely Top 10 teams in Missouri and Oklahoma. That's nothing to sneeze at.

[Mephistopheles]

Then again, in all fairness to Kansas, if they're undefeated by season's end, they'll have taken down two likely Top 10 teams in Missouri and Oklahoma. That's nothing to sneeze at.

 

Yes, Oklahoma who has beat who? A Missouri team who beat who? The Big XII didn't have any big wins in out of conference games. In fact the two biggest non-conference wins for any Big XII team may be Missouri's win over Illinois or Oklahoma's win against 5-4 Miami.

[Mephistopheles]

Looking at Saragin's ratings.

 

# of wins for a conference against schools out of conference

 

Top 50:

6 Pac 10

4 SEC

4 ACC

3 Mountain West

2 Big XII

2 Big East

1 Conference USA

1 Sun Belt

1 Southern

0 MAC

0 WAC

0 Little Ten

 

Top 40:

3 Pac 10

3 SEC

2 Big XII

2 ACC

2 Big East

1 Southern

1 Mountain West

1 Sun Belt

0 MAC

0 WAC

0 Little Ten

0 Conference USA

 

Top 30:

3 Pac 10

2 ACC

1 Big XII

1 Southern

1 Big East

1 SEC

0 Conference USA

0 Sun Belt

0 Little Ten

0 MAC

0 WAC

0 Mountain West

 

Top 20:

2 ACC

1 Southern

1 Pac 10

1 Big East

1 SEC

0 WAC

0 Mountain West

0 Big XII

0 Little Ten

0 Sun Belt

0 Conference USA

0 MAC

 

Top 10:

0 ACC

0 WAC

0 Big XII

0 Big East

0 Little Ten

0 Conference USA

0 MAC

0 Mountain West

0 SEC

0 Sun Belt

0 Southern

[snoodmonger]

It felt good to blow up aTm today.

 

Outside of Baylor, the rest of our schedule is sort of scary.

 

Texas Tech has been pretty bad so far, but who knows what happens when you mix their offense with our passing defense. Usually what happens is we give up a ton of yards but also pick off three or four balls and win by 17 or so.

 

The OSU game is sort of the same deal. I mean, this team lost to Troy earlier in the year, but a healthy Dontrelle Savage at RB scares me, not mention that apparently Bobby Reid was the weak link on their offense. Robinson has a lot of options at WR (Bowman, Bryant) not to mention a big, pass-catching tight end in Brandon Pettigrew. TE's always kill us.

 

And I want no part of either Mizzou or KU in the big XII championship, should we make it. I'd rather take KU, but with the way that offense is rolling, I'd rather face neither. Obviously I could go the rest of the season without having to play Mizzouri again. I have a theory that home field in college football is worth +-10 points, and I don't want to see them on neutral field. They're probably the best team in the big 12 at this point, I can't wait to see the KU/Mizzou game.

 

Yeah, unfortunately it looks like Mizzou is the creme of the crop, though both KU and OU (obviously) are capable of beating them. I really wish the game were in Lawrence this year. I just don't know how we'll cover that offense.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Stop talking like that guys, you're going to jinx it. :cry:

[NewUserName]

I think someone is going to have to eat a lot of crow if OSU beats LSU for the title.

[Guest]

I think someone is going to have to eat a lot of crow if OSU beats LSU for the title.

 

If OSU runs the table - which I don't think they will anyway - they'll get demolished by Oregon or LSU. They'd probably get beat by Oklahoma as well.

[Guest]

Yikes, Pat Cowan had a concussion and a collapsed lung. Looks like it'll be Osaar Rasshan and McLeod Bethel-Thompson next week at QB.

 

UCLA linebacker Christian Taylor echoing what Truffle said earlier in this thread: "You know what, though, I am glad we play a good team next week. I don't want to take anything away from Arizona. They were a good team today, they were better than us. They were the best team we lost to . . . yet."

[TruffleShuffle]

The MephTen:

 

1. 9-1 Oregon (3-1)

2. 8-1 Louisiana State (4-1)

3. 10-0 Ohio State (1-0)

4. 8-1 Oklahoma (2-0)

5. 8-1 Arizona State (1-1)

6. 9-0 Kansas (0-0)

7. 6-3 Florida (2-3)

8. 7-1 West Virginia (0-1)

9. 8-1 Boston College (1-0)

10. 8-2 Michigan (2-1)

 

Record in parentheses is record vs top thirty teams.

 

The Mephman Top Five:

1. Dennis Dixon

2. Tim Tebow

3. Darren McFadden

4. Mike Hart

5. Sam Bradford

 

 

Aside from complete homerism, what is the justification for having Florida #7? And ahead of Georgia and Auburn, for that matter.

[cubweiser03]

Really. I dont think I have ever seen any of you PSU guys say OSU and Mich have better programs right now. Maybe you have and I have missed it. As a MSU fan I have no problem saying PSU, Mich, OSU and most of the rest of the Big Ten are better than us. Hopefully we will get better.

 

OSU is definitely the best program in the Big Ten right now, Michigan is marginally better than Penn State overall (though they don't do a great job of recruiting speed or developing talent at WR/LB/DB). That was easy.

 

Marginally? How many BCS games or Rose Bowl games have PSU been to besides the Michael Robinson year. Before that PSU was a doormat in the B10 for many years winning 3-5 games. Michigan competes for the B10 title every year except for 2 years ago, i can't say the same for PSU. Even with their disaster start this year they are once again toe to toe with OSU going into that final game for the B10 Championship.

 

Anyway, getting back to the discussion.... I more of a believer of Kansas. 10 straight TDs to start the game is impressive even if it is NU defense and their QB looks pretty solid.

 

The last 3 weeks i have become more impressed with Ohio State than i was originally, and i have become less impressed than i was 3 weeks ago with LSU. I continue to like Oregon and OU.

 

Thank heavens BC lost yesterday. If Ohio State would of been able to play them in NCG i would be all sorts of pissed.

[NewUserName]

I agree with you Ohio St sentiment Cubweiser. I absolutely think they could beat LSU on a neutral field. I also think that they would give Oregon and Oklahoma good games and would not get blown out.

[fiver]

Ohio State is a better team than I gave them credit for earlier this year, but I'm still fairly sure they'll get beat against Oregon or LSU.

[fiver]

I agree with you Ohio St sentiment Cubweiser. I absolutely think they could beat LSU on a neutral field. I also think that they would give Oregon and Oklahoma good games and would not get blown out.

 

Are you saying Ohio State would or could beat LSU on a neutral field? There is a significant difference in those two statements.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If LSU is in the title game, that won't be a neutral field.

[CuseCubFan69]

The MephTen:

 

1. 9-1 Oregon (3-1)

2. 8-1 Louisiana State (4-1)

3. 10-0 Ohio State (1-0)

4. 8-1 Oklahoma (2-0)

5. 8-1 Arizona State (1-1)

6. 9-0 Kansas (0-0)

7. 6-3 Florida (2-3)

8. 7-1 West Virginia (0-1)

9. 8-1 Boston College (1-0)

10. 8-2 Michigan (2-1)

 

Record in parentheses is record vs top thirty teams.

 

The Mephman Top Five:

1. Dennis Dixon

2. Tim Tebow

3. Darren McFadden

4. Mike Hart

5. Sam Bradford

 

 

Aside from complete homerism, what is the justification for having Florida #7? And ahead of Georgia and Auburn, for that matter.

 

Another loss by the Gators and Meph will have them at #1.

[Derwood]

wow, Little Ten. How original.

 

btw, I think I called Michigan going undefeated in the Big 10 back when they were 0-2.

[Derwood]

as for the Michigan penalty thing:

 

2007:

 

Michigan - 50 penatles for 425 yards

Opponents - 54 penalties for 469 yards

[CuseCubFan69]

as for the Michigan penalty thing:

 

2007:

 

Michigan - 50 penatles for 425 yards

Opponents - 54 penalties for 469 yards

 

I don't think you can look at penalties in a blanket statement like that. If a team is winning 31-0 and then gets called for 4 or 5 it doesn't matter. It's at key points of the game or when a team gets an advantage to when it matters.

[Balsa]

Boy, Minnesota really is that bad.

[Derwood]

as for the Michigan penalty thing:

 

2007:

 

Michigan - 50 penatles for 425 yards

Opponents - 54 penalties for 469 yards

 

I don't think you can look at penalties in a blanket statement like that. If a team is winning 31-0 and then gets called for 4 or 5 it doesn't matter. It's at key points of the game or when a team gets an advantage to when it matters.

 

well I'll add that they have only been grossly out-penalized on two occasions, most notably the Illinois game. Otherwise it's been pretty even game to game