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I can't wait to see how much Dusty screws Dunn up.
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I can't wait to see how much Dusty screws Dunn up.

 

Maybe Dusty will tell Dunn that he wants him to hack away and Dunn will hit Dusty in the head with a bat.

 

Dunn will get locked up for attempted murder so he can't hurt us any longer.

 

Of course, the blow will have no effect on Dusty due to his rocklike skull and he can continue to manage the Reds into the ground.

 

Win-win.

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I think we are making assumptions about Dusty. The only player that I can think of that Dusty has managed that is even close to being similar to Dunn is Bonds. Except Bonds didnt KO nearly as much. I think it may be unfair to say how Dusty will manage Dunn at this point.
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I think we are making assumptions about Dusty. The only player that I can think of that Dusty has managed that is even close to being similar to Dunn is Bonds. Except Bonds didnt KO nearly as much. I think it may be unfair to say how Dusty will manage Dunn at this point.

 

Bonds didn't K at record setting #s, and he didn't have a low BA. That's 2 strikes for Dusty.

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Am I the only one that thinks Dusty might have actually learned something while with the Cubs?

To me, Lou seems like a different manager from the Tampa days.

Just wanted to put it out there, I know no one wants to hear it.

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Am I the only one that thinks Dusty might have actually learned something while with the Cubs?

To me, Lou seems like a different manager from the Tampa days.

Just wanted to put it out there, I know no one wants to hear it.

 

Sure, it's possible. But from what I heard of him on ESPN (and I admittedly tried to avoid him for fear he'd make me dumber), he hasn't learned much. Lou may be different than he was in TB, but he's got a much different team here than he had there.

 

It's not frequent that 60-year-olds that have had some success doing something the way they've always done it (in this case, managing teams that win) change their ways at that stage of their life. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not likely. And Dusty doesn't strike me as a guy who quickly changes his ideas of how you win in baseball.

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).
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I think we are making assumptions about Dusty. The only player that I can think of that Dusty has managed that is even close to being similar to Dunn is Bonds. Except Bonds didnt KO nearly as much. I think it may be unfair to say how Dusty will manage Dunn at this point.

 

Bonds didn't K at record setting #s, and he didn't have a low BA. That's 2 strikes for Dusty.

 

Have to agree, the strikeouts and low BA will drive Dusty crazy, not to mention the lack of speed. Dusty has a history of liking awful players who bring nothing to the table other than a respectable BA, a low K rate, and average or better speed. That stuff is very very important to Dusty. Bonds is a slow baserunner, but otherwise his offense has no weaknesses.

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I think we are making assumptions about Dusty. The only player that I can think of that Dusty has managed that is even close to being similar to Dunn is Bonds. Except Bonds didnt KO nearly as much. I think it may be unfair to say how Dusty will manage Dunn at this point.

 

Bonds didn't K at record setting #s, and he didn't have a low BA. That's 2 strikes for Dusty.

 

Have to agree, the strikeouts and low BA will drive Dusty crazy, not to mention the lack of speed. Dusty has a history of liking awful players who bring nothing to the table other than a respectable BA, a low K rate, and average or better speed. That stuff is very very important to Dusty. Bonds is a slow baserunner, but otherwise his offense has no weaknesses.

 

 

Who else can we use as an example to how Dusty will handle Dunn? Mark Bellhorn? I agree Dusty screwed up that situation, but Bellhorn was no Dunn. Also maybe Karros over Choi or Grudz over Walker. Still not very good comparisons. Like I said originally, I think we are making assumptions about how Dusty will handle this situation with very little evidence.

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).

 

I don't believe they can. I think I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that stated the Reds can't deal him until sometime in June if they picked up his option.

 

Edited to add: This is where I saw it:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/dunns-option-li.html

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).

 

I don't believe they can. I think I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that stated the Reds can't deal him until sometime in June if they picked up his option.

 

Edited to add: This is where I saw it:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/dunns-option-li.html

 

Its a no trade clause until June 15th. I'm sure by spring training he'll be wanting to get as far away from Dusty as possible.

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If you want an example of a Dusty player who was the offensive polar opposite of Dunn(except speedwise) then look at Randall Simon -- high BA, low OBP, few strikeouts, few walks, and poor power for his position. Simon brought absolutely nothing to the table except a good BA and low K rate, and Dusty loved him, even asked Hendry to bring him back for 2004. Dunn is the perfect anti-Simon at the plate.
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If you want an example of a Dusty player who was the offensive polar opposite of Dunn(except speedwise) then look at Randall Simon -- high BA, low OBP, few strikeouts, few walks, and poor power for his position. Simon brought absolutely nothing to the table except a good BA and low K rate, and Dusty loved him, even asked Hendry to bring him back for 2004. Dunn is the perfect anti-Simon at the plate.

 

But that doesnt change the fact that Dusty has never had a player quite like Dunn. I understand he has favored guys like Simon. Still what would he do if he had a Dunn type on his team has never really been shown before. I think the worse thing that will happen is Dusty will bat him 6th or something like that.

 

The one I think that is really going to be interesting is Scott Hattieberg (Base Clogging Vet) and Joey Votto (base clogging rookie)

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).

 

I don't believe they can. I think I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that stated the Reds can't deal him until sometime in June if they picked up his option.

 

Edited to add: This is where I saw it:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/dunns-option-li.html

 

Its a no trade clause until June 15th. I'm sure by spring training he'll be wanting to get as far away from Dusty as possible.

 

If Dunn signed/filed the appropriate paperwork, would he be able to get that lifted, or is that a Player's Union thing?

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).

 

I don't believe they can. I think I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that stated the Reds can't deal him until sometime in June if they picked up his option.

 

Edited to add: This is where I saw it:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/dunns-option-li.html

 

Its a no trade clause until June 15th. I'm sure by spring training he'll be wanting to get as far away from Dusty as possible.

 

If Dunn signed/filed the appropriate paperwork, would he be able to get that lifted, or is that a Player's Union thing?

 

It can be waived by the player.

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The Reds may well have exercised the option to trade him. Forget the Dusty-bashing for a second, but they could have an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and Griffey making Dunn expendable. Hopper is also a Dusty kind of guy (speed and a high BA).

 

I don't believe they can. I think I read somewhere that there was a clause in his contract that stated the Reds can't deal him until sometime in June if they picked up his option.

 

Edited to add: This is where I saw it:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/10/dunns-option-li.html

 

Its a no trade clause until June 15th. I'm sure by spring training he'll be wanting to get as far away from Dusty as possible.

 

If Dunn signed/filed the appropriate paperwork, would he be able to get that lifted, or is that a Player's Union thing?

 

It can be waived by the player.

 

Thanks.

 

I just wonder what Adam Dunn's true feelings are.

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