Jim Hendry Appreciation Thread

[Fred Hornkohl]

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2007?

 

Please..... read that one over and re-post it.

[Mizzou]

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2007?

 

Please..... read that one over and re-post it.

Whoops! Fixed it.

[Keener98]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

He's a failure. Even with the playoff appearance the Cubs haven't even gotten back to the level they were in 2003, let alone making progress beyond that. All this year accomplished was making up SOME of the ground they lost since 2003. Four years with no progress is inexcusable.

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2003?

Statistically that might be the case but I want you to find anybody who would rather have Z, Lilly, and Hill over Prior, Wood, and Clement, and Zambrano. The #5 spot in the rotation in 2003 really hurts their stats overall. The bullpen and offense were better this year than 03, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody wanting to take this years rotation, over 03.

 

2003 happened and was supposed to be the start of something good. Instead, we have 2004 where we have a better record than 2003, but choke down the stretch. Then the problems really start happening, and Hendry puts this organization back big time in 05 and 06. People like to point at the fact Hendry's teams have been to the playoffs twice in 5 years, big deal. The resources given to Jim Hendry during his time here have been so much greater than any GM in Cubs history, and the only 2 years his teams have made it to the playoffs, were in years when the entire division is a joke.

[Mizzou]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

He's a failure. Even with the playoff appearance the Cubs haven't even gotten back to the level they were in 2003, let alone making progress beyond that. All this year accomplished was making up SOME of the ground they lost since 2003. Four years with no progress is inexcusable.

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2003?

Statistically that might be the case but I want you to find anybody who would rather have Z, Lilly, and Hill over Prior, Wood, and Clement, and Zambrano. The #5 spot in the rotation in 2003 really hurts their stats overall. The bullpen and offense were better this year than 03, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody wanting to take this years rotation, over 03.

 

2003 happened and was supposed to be the start of something good. Instead, we have 2004 where we have a better record than 2003, but choke down the stretch. Then the problems really start happening, and Hendry puts this organization back big time in 05 and 06. People like to point at the fact Hendry's teams have been to the playoffs twice in 5 years, big deal. The resources given to Jim Hendry during his time here have been so much greater than any GM in Cubs history, and the only 2 years his teams have made it to the playoffs, were in years when the entire division is a joke.

I'd absolutely rather have the '03 rotation, but I'd also absolutely rather have this year's offense. But that's neither here nor there. I was just responding to the part of NCC's post that said that the Cubs haven't gotten back to the level they were at in 2003, because it's simply not true. They've gone beyond the level of the 2003 team.

[Keener98]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

He's a failure. Even with the playoff appearance the Cubs haven't even gotten back to the level they were in 2003, let alone making progress beyond that. All this year accomplished was making up SOME of the ground they lost since 2003. Four years with no progress is inexcusable.

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2003?

Statistically that might be the case but I want you to find anybody who would rather have Z, Lilly, and Hill over Prior, Wood, and Clement, and Zambrano. The #5 spot in the rotation in 2003 really hurts their stats overall. The bullpen and offense were better this year than 03, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody wanting to take this years rotation, over 03.

 

2003 happened and was supposed to be the start of something good. Instead, we have 2004 where we have a better record than 2003, but choke down the stretch. Then the problems really start happening, and Hendry puts this organization back big time in 05 and 06. People like to point at the fact Hendry's teams have been to the playoffs twice in 5 years, big deal. The resources given to Jim Hendry during his time here have been so much greater than any GM in Cubs history, and the only 2 years his teams have made it to the playoffs, were in years when the entire division is a joke.

I'd absolutely rather have the '03 rotation, but I'd also absolutely rather have this year's offense. But that's neither here nor there. I was just responding to the part of NCC's post that said that the Cubs haven't gotten back to the level they were at in 2003, because it's simply not true. They've gone beyond the level of the 2003 team.

 

Ok gotcha, but I guess I really dont understand what the phrase "level of 2003" really means. I do know that I liked the long term future alot better of the 03 team than I do of the 07 team, but we all know how that worked out.

[dalgreen]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

He's a failure. Even with the playoff appearance the Cubs haven't even gotten back to the level they were in 2003, let alone making progress beyond that. All this year accomplished was making up SOME of the ground they lost since 2003. Four years with no progress is inexcusable.

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2003?

Statistically that might be the case but I want you to find anybody who would rather have Z, Lilly, and Hill over Prior, Wood, and Clement, and Zambrano. The #5 spot in the rotation in 2003 really hurts their stats overall. The bullpen and offense were better this year than 03, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody wanting to take this years rotation, over 03.

 

2003 happened and was supposed to be the start of something good. Instead, we have 2004 where we have a better record than 2003, but choke down the stretch. Then the problems really start happening, and Hendry puts this organization back big time in 05 and 06. People like to point at the fact Hendry's teams have been to the playoffs twice in 5 years, big deal. The resources given to Jim Hendry during his time here have been so much greater than any GM in Cubs history, and the only 2 years his teams have made it to the playoffs, were in years when the entire division is a joke.

I'd absolutely rather have the '03 rotation, but I'd also absolutely rather have this year's offense. But that's neither here nor there. I was just responding to the part of NCC's post that said that the Cubs haven't gotten back to the level they were at in 2003, because it's simply not true. They've gone beyond the level of the 2003 team.

 

I believe "the level" that he's referring to means getting to within five outs of the NL pennant or better. You know just as the Cardinals went from making it to the NLCS to winning the pennant to winning the World Series and how Houston went from winning the NLDS to winning the pennant.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

 

85 wins in a terrible division. it's not a collapse, it's a natural conclusion.

 

Bingo!

[NCCubFan]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

He's a failure. Even with the playoff appearance the Cubs haven't even gotten back to the level they were in 2003, let alone making progress beyond that. All this year accomplished was making up SOME of the ground they lost since 2003. Four years with no progress is inexcusable.

Do you realize that the Cubs offense and pitching were both better this year than in 2003?

I wasn't clear about what I meant by level. I was referring to results, not statistical performance. To me getting back to the same level would have meant winning the division series and playing in the NLCS, and the only way to have made progress since 2003 would have been to play in the World Series.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh Jimmy, you're so great, I really appreciate everything you did. You're a genius. The rosters you've put together over the years have been tremendous, it's just a shame the players completely underperformed from where you knew they should perform.

[Soul]

A good new owner will relieve Hendry of his duties

 

Why? did Soriano and Ramirez tell him when they signed their massive contracts that they only planned on trying through September, and then theyd half ass their way through the next 3 games?

 

He put together a playoff team. Nothing he did caused this collapse.

 

85 wins in a terrible division. it's not a collapse, it's a natural conclusion.

 

Bingo!

 

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[USSoccer]

I love that someone thinks Ramirez and Soriano were bad in the LDS because they "didn't try and half assed it".

 

If anything, that's the opposite of truth. They pressed.

 

Get some perspective. This team wasn't that good. They didn't lose because their best players didn't try. They lost because their best players played terribly over a 3 game sample size.

[rocket]

I love that someone thinks Ramirez and Soriano were bad in the LDS because they "didn't try and half assed it".

 

If anything, that's the opposite of truth. They pressed.

 

Get some perspective. This team wasn't that good. They didn't lose because their best players didn't try. They lost because their best players played terribly over a 3 game sample size.

 

exactly. why would ramirez (.287/.363/.594 in sep.) lee (.365/.431/.654) and soriano (.320/.354/.754) bust their asses in september to ensure they'd make the playoffs only to not try once they make it? people sometimes don't think.