College Football - Week of 9/15

[jjgman21]

Nebraska should be dropped from the top 25 when the polls comes out.

 

in that case UCLA should be taken out of D1.

[jjgman21]

 

So, this week's poll should have 7 SEC teams ranked, and Auburn and Tennessee won't be among them.

 

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

 

c'mon guys. noone doubts that the SEC is the best conference, but you're really putting perfume on a big turd of a day.

 

Arkansas loses to a fairly ordinary Alabama squad

Tennessee gets crushed by Florida

Auburn loses to Mississippi state

 

the only two teams from 16-25 that lost are SEC teams. if the pollsters find a way to vault both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25, over several other teams that also won today, and without dropping either of the two SEC teams out, thus resulting in seven SEC teams in the top 25, it would be an absolute joke.

 

Do you realize the irony that all SEC losses came to other SEC schools?

 

is that Alanis Morisette irony? do you see the "irony" in one of those losses being by 30 points? how about the "irony" of Arkansas and Alabama playing 60 minutes of what should not be defined as football?

Edited September 16, 2007 by jjgman21

[The Voice of Reason]

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

Agree.

 

USC should just play LSU now for the national championship

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

Agree.

 

USC should just play LSU now for the national championship

 

I think Florida and Oklahoma still have something to say about it. But yeah, I don't think there's any doubt that the top four teams are USC, LSU, Florida, and Oklahoma.

[The Voice of Reason]

 

So, this week's poll should have 7 SEC teams ranked, and Auburn and Tennessee won't be among them.

 

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

 

c'mon guys. noone doubts that the SEC is the best conference, but you're really putting perfume on a big turd of a day.

 

Arkansas loses to a fairly ordinary Alabama squad

Tennessee gets crushed by Florida

Auburn loses to Mississippi state

 

the only two teams from 16-25 that lost are SEC teams. if the pollsters find a way to vault both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25, over several other teams that also won today, and without dropping either of the two SEC teams out, thus resulting in seven SEC teams in the top 25, it would be an absolute joke.

 

Do you realize the irony that all SEC losses came to other SEC schools?

 

is that Alanis Morisette irony? do you see the "irony" in one of those losses being by 30 points? how about the other coming to perennial dormat MSU?

 

Hey jjgman21 - I've been out all day, how did the Iowa Hawkeyes do against Cupcake State? :lol:

[Exile on Waveland]

 

So, this week's poll should have 7 SEC teams ranked, and Auburn and Tennessee won't be among them.

 

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

 

c'mon guys. noone doubts that the SEC is the best conference, but you're really putting perfume on a big turd of a day.

 

Arkansas loses to a fairly ordinary Alabama squad

Tennessee gets crushed by Florida

Auburn loses to Mississippi state

 

the only two teams from 16-25 that lost are SEC teams. if the pollsters find a way to vault both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25, over several other teams that also won today, and without dropping either of the two SEC teams out, thus resulting in seven SEC teams in the top 25, it would be an absolute joke.

 

Do you realize the irony that all SEC losses came to other SEC schools?

 

Kentucky's win was big. Other than that, I'm not sure how today cements the fact the SEC is the best conference (which, of course, it is). The SEC lost a home game to a Big East team last week, remember.

[Exile on Waveland]

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

Agree.

 

USC should just play LSU now for the national championship

 

I think Florida and Oklahoma still have something to say about it. But yeah, I don't think there's any doubt that the top four teams are USC, LSU, Florida, and Oklahoma.

 

I cannot fathom how one could fail to rank USC, LSU, Florida and Oklahoma the top four teams, in some order.

[jjgman21]

No way in hell a 3-0 SEC team with a win over a top 10 team won't be in the top 25. Hell, South Carolina jumped up to SEVENTEEN by beating Georgia.

 

 

besides Tennessee, who do you bump to get both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25? Clemson won their game fairly easily. BC is about to beat a higher ranked team. Hawaii will probably rack it up against UNLV. Oregon and A&M rolled. does GT get dropped down farther than Arkansas for some reason.

 

 

the sense of entitlement is sickening. like I said, if it happens it will be an absolute joke. South Carolina has no business in the top 25 in the first place.

 

Entitlement? Um, yeah, whatever. South Carolina got way too much credit for beating Georgia, sure. I wouldn't say they're any more overrated than Virginia Tech.

 

yes, entitlement. there's a way that these things generally work, ie. teams don't get dropped down if they don't lose. yet to you it's unimaginable that the two teams that actually lost be the teams that drop out, to make room for another team in the conference to leap frog a bunch of teams that didn't lose.

 

Virginia Tech. good example there. even with the baggage that team is carrying, SC couldn't carry their jocks, regardless of the LSU blowout.

 

Like I said: um, okay, whatever. I didn't ask for any words put in my mouth, but feel free to find somebody who likes that and talk to him or her.

 

oh spare me. look at the things you said. while you did not say those exact words, it is what you said.

[jjgman21]

 

So, this week's poll should have 7 SEC teams ranked, and Auburn and Tennessee won't be among them.

 

Kentucky's win over Louisville further cements the fact that the SEC is the best conference this year.

 

 

c'mon guys. noone doubts that the SEC is the best conference, but you're really putting perfume on a big turd of a day.

 

Arkansas loses to a fairly ordinary Alabama squad

Tennessee gets crushed by Florida

Auburn loses to Mississippi state

 

the only two teams from 16-25 that lost are SEC teams. if the pollsters find a way to vault both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25, over several other teams that also won today, and without dropping either of the two SEC teams out, thus resulting in seven SEC teams in the top 25, it would be an absolute joke.

 

Do you realize the irony that all SEC losses came to other SEC schools?

 

is that Alanis Morisette irony? do you see the "irony" in one of those losses being by 30 points? how about the other coming to perennial dormat MSU?

 

Hey jjgman21 - I've been out all day, how did the Iowa Hawkeyes do against Cupcake State? :lol:

 

better than Auburn v. perennial dormat MSU and about as well as the Hogs against a "6-7" team. but you seem to be mistaking me for a big Iowa defender.

[TruffleShuffle]

That PI on the Arkansas player was the worst PI call I ever seen.

 

you haven't watched much football then

 

Oh believe me, I watch alot of football. PI calls that occurs whenever the defender gives little or no contact to the receiver.

 

Yet, there would be no PI on a defender hooks the receiver before the ball arrives to the receiver.

 

it was a bad call but when i saw it live, i thought it was interference... it looked that way because the guy's arm was in against the defender. I thought he was being held but when they showed the reverse angle you could see he wasn't. It was a bad call in slow-mo but I can understand the call that was made.

[UK1679666180]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about conference rankings?

[Guest]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about conference rankings?

 

you don't think pre-ranking the conferences based on nothing is a good way to decide a national champion? why on earth not?

[Warpticon]

No way in hell a 3-0 SEC team with a win over a top 10 team won't be in the top 25. Hell, South Carolina jumped up to SEVENTEEN by beating Georgia.

 

 

besides Tennessee, who do you bump to get both Alabama and Kentucky into the top 25? Clemson won their game fairly easily. BC is about to beat a higher ranked team. Hawaii will probably rack it up against UNLV. Oregon and A&M rolled. does GT get dropped down farther than Arkansas for some reason.

 

 

the sense of entitlement is sickening. like I said, if it happens it will be an absolute joke. South Carolina has no business in the top 25 in the first place.

 

Entitlement? Um, yeah, whatever. South Carolina got way too much credit for beating Georgia, sure. I wouldn't say they're any more overrated than Virginia Tech.

 

yes, entitlement. there's a way that these things generally work, ie. teams don't get dropped down if they don't lose. yet to you it's unimaginable that the two teams that actually lost be the teams that drop out, to make room for another team in the conference to leap frog a bunch of teams that didn't lose.

 

Virginia Tech. good example there. even with the baggage that team is carrying, SC couldn't carry their jocks, regardless of the LSU blowout.

 

Like I said: um, okay, whatever. I didn't ask for any words put in my mouth, but feel free to find somebody who likes that and talk to him or her.

 

oh spare me. look at the things you said. while you did not say those exact words, it is what you said.

 

Sure, if you're illiterate.

[jjgman21]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about conference rankings?

 

I just care that people call a spade a spade. conventionally wisdom regarding college football sucks when it comes to judging teams, but it is generally pretty accurate in regard to the power of each conference's rankings.

 

the shake up of the ACC/BE seemed to shift the balance of power in college football, but with the rise in the Louisville/Rutgers programs coinciding with the drop off by Miami and FSU, the end result was that things haven't changed. year in, year out, the best conferences in football are:

 

1. SEC

2a. Big10

2b. Pac 10

3. Big 12

4a. BE

4b. ACC

 

where "a" and "b" means it could go either way from year to year.

 

some times there is a little shift amongst these conferences, but it does not change dramatically from year to year, ie. the Big 12 has seasons where they get up to 2a, particularly in those years that Texas or Oklahoma are dominant. but it also has seasons where they are 4a due to those teams being the only decent teams in the conference. last year, the BE had a legit argument at 2c.

 

but we have two completely illegitimate arguments that persist here. the first is that the conferences stack up like this

 

1. SEC

2. SEC

3. SEC

4. SEC

5a whatever

5b whatever

5c whatever

5d whatever

5e whatever

 

and the second is this

 

1. SEC

2a. BE

2b. Pac 10

3a. ACC

3b. Big 12

3c. Big 10

 

waaaaaaaay too much time is spent arguing this sillyness. go ahead and say that the Big Ten is down to 3a. go ahead and argue the Big 12 is 2b. scream to the world that BE is 2c. but for crying out loud, quite with the absurd claims that either of these two scenerios have any legitimacy.

[jjgman21]

now I know that 'anything can happen' but some coaches should really be ashamed of themselves. Spurrier, Carroll, Meyer, even JoPa I have noticed so far. keeping starters in AND throwing long passes on first and second down with the game no longer in doubt.

 

Wisconsin was tied with a 1AA team at half time today. while they didn't have the ball much of the fourth, PJ Hill didn't touch the ball the last 13:30 of the game. they threw one pass the last 13:00 of the game, on 3rd and 8. most of the starting D didn't play the final two drives, although they did come in for one play, to try to stop a fourth and goal from the 1.

 

I know alot of people will disagree and have more a 'dagger in the heart' mentality. I guess I just believe is sportsmanship, and pulling your starters when the game is in hand is both the noble and smart (because the backups get some play) thing to do.

[dew1679666265]

now I know that 'anything can happen' but some coaches should really be ashamed of themselves. Spurrier, Carroll, Meyer, even JoPa I have noticed so far. keeping starters in AND throwing long passes on first and second down with the game no longer in doubt.

 

Wisconsin was tied with a 1AA team at half time today. while they didn't have the ball much of the fourth, PJ Hill didn't touch the ball the last 13:30 of the game. they threw one pass the last 13:00 of the game, on 3rd and 8. most of the starting D didn't play the final two drives, although they did come in for one play, to try to stop a fourth and goal from the 1.

 

I know alot of people will disagree and have more a 'dagger in the heart' mentality. I guess I just believe is sportsmanship, and pulling your starters when the game is in hand is both the noble and smart (because the backups get some play) thing to do.

 

I agree with this completely. There should be some level of respect between coaches so that once it's quite clear the game is over, you don't keep piling on.

 

It was not only classless, but also stupid when Meyer left Tebow in to do a QB DRAW on fourth and inches with a 29 point lead with 8 minutes to go in the fourth. What happens if Tebow suffers an injury in the pile-up and is out for a few weeks or even the season? And for what, so Urban Meyer can have his bloated ego stroked a little bit more because he beat Tennesse by 39 instead of 29?

 

Meyer wouldn't be looking as much like a genius if Tebow were injured on that play. Or if the tackle on Harvin on the deep pass resulted in an injury.

 

I like giving credit to coaches like Mark Richt who have the good sense and class to pull starters when the game's been decided (he did the last time Tennessee got demolished - pulled his starters in the third if I recall correctly - much like Fulmer did in the blowout over Georgia last year). There need to be more coaches with a little class and integrity.

[TruffleShuffle]

fun game of the day - tulsa 55, byu 47 in a game with nearly 1300 yards of offense, and nearly 1000 of it through the air.

[dew1679666265]

fun game of the day - tulsa 55, byu 47 in a game with nearly 1300 yards of offense, and nearly 1000 of it through the air.

 

Wow, Gus Malzahn must be running his type of offense there at Tulsa.

[TruffleShuffle]

most importantly, holy cross finally beat that inferior school harvard on a 40-yard TD pass with 19 seconds left.

[jjgman21]

now I know that 'anything can happen' but some coaches should really be ashamed of themselves. Spurrier, Carroll, Meyer, even JoPa I have noticed so far. keeping starters in AND throwing long passes on first and second down with the game no longer in doubt.

 

Wisconsin was tied with a 1AA team at half time today. while they didn't have the ball much of the fourth, PJ Hill didn't touch the ball the last 13:30 of the game. they threw one pass the last 13:00 of the game, on 3rd and 8. most of the starting D didn't play the final two drives, although they did come in for one play, to try to stop a fourth and goal from the 1.

 

I know alot of people will disagree and have more a 'dagger in the heart' mentality. I guess I just believe is sportsmanship, and pulling your starters when the game is in hand is both the noble and smart (because the backups get some play) thing to do.

 

I agree with this completely. There should be some level of respect between coaches so that once it's quite clear the game is over, you don't keep piling on.

 

It was not only classless, but also stupid when Meyer left Tebow in to do a QB DRAW on fourth and inches with a 29 point lead with 8 minutes to go in the fourth. What happens if Tebow suffers an injury in the pile-up and is out for a few weeks or even the season? And for what, so Urban Meyer can have his bloated ego stroked a little bit more because he beat Tennesse by 39 instead of 29?

 

Meyer wouldn't be looking as much like a genius if Tebow were injured on that play. Or if the tackle on Harvin on the deep pass resulted in an injury.

 

I like giving credit to coaches like Mark Richt who have the good sense and class to pull starters when the game's been decided (he did the last time Tennessee got demolished - pulled his starters in the third if I recall correctly - much like Fulmer did in the blowout over Georgia last year). There need to be more coaches with a little class and integrity.

 

injuries is an angle I didn't think of. while the teams benefit from running up the score due to the computer polls (ie. Florida and USC have to run up the score, just look at what LSU and OU are doing with backups), who is going to be the first kid who has his career ruined so a team can impress a bunch of computers.

[jjgman21]

pre-emptive rant

 

the past two weeks Texas and UW have played a little dance. UW looked better the first week and bounced over Texas. last week, Texas really didn't look good, but better than Wisconsin did, and they bounced back over Wisconsin.

 

this week, all the pollsters will forget that Texas trailed in the fourth and won by three, and only won due to a somewhat controversial call. they will remember that Wisconsin again had a tough time adjusting to another basketball offense in the first half, and not notice that they outgained the other team 273-29 from second half kickoff until they pulled their starters.

[dew1679666265]

now I know that 'anything can happen' but some coaches should really be ashamed of themselves. Spurrier, Carroll, Meyer, even JoPa I have noticed so far. keeping starters in AND throwing long passes on first and second down with the game no longer in doubt.

 

Wisconsin was tied with a 1AA team at half time today. while they didn't have the ball much of the fourth, PJ Hill didn't touch the ball the last 13:30 of the game. they threw one pass the last 13:00 of the game, on 3rd and 8. most of the starting D didn't play the final two drives, although they did come in for one play, to try to stop a fourth and goal from the 1.

 

I know alot of people will disagree and have more a 'dagger in the heart' mentality. I guess I just believe is sportsmanship, and pulling your starters when the game is in hand is both the noble and smart (because the backups get some play) thing to do.

 

I agree with this completely. There should be some level of respect between coaches so that once it's quite clear the game is over, you don't keep piling on.

 

It was not only classless, but also stupid when Meyer left Tebow in to do a QB DRAW on fourth and inches with a 29 point lead with 8 minutes to go in the fourth. What happens if Tebow suffers an injury in the pile-up and is out for a few weeks or even the season? And for what, so Urban Meyer can have his bloated ego stroked a little bit more because he beat Tennesse by 39 instead of 29?

 

Meyer wouldn't be looking as much like a genius if Tebow were injured on that play. Or if the tackle on Harvin on the deep pass resulted in an injury.

 

I like giving credit to coaches like Mark Richt who have the good sense and class to pull starters when the game's been decided (he did the last time Tennessee got demolished - pulled his starters in the third if I recall correctly - much like Fulmer did in the blowout over Georgia last year). There need to be more coaches with a little class and integrity.

 

injuries is an angle I didn't think of. while the teams benefit from running up the score due to the computer polls (ie. Florida and USC have to run up the score, just look at what LSU and OU are doing with backups), who is going to be the first kid who has his career ruined so a team can impress a bunch of computers.

 

Exactly. You never can tell when an injury is going to happen and severe ones are rare, but they do happen and are far more likely on plays such as QB draws where there is a huge pile of players on top of the ball carrier.

 

Much as I hate Florida, I still hate to think of their players getting hurt, but what if Tebow broke a bone on the bottom of that pile or shredded something in his leg getting twisted down underneath the pile.

 

Coaches who run up the score are putting their players at needless risk to feed their own overblown ego. It's a shame.

[Mephistopheles]

1. SEC

2a. Big10

2b. Pac 10

3. Big 12

4a. BE

4b. ACC

 

where "a" and "b" means it could go either way from year to year.

 

The Big XII is 2a more times than the Pac and Big Ten. Let's not be stupid here. More times than not the second best conference is the Big XII. And the ACC is generally better than not so Big Ten. Those two conferences have been down the last few seasons but theres no doubt in my mind that four years from now they will be better than the Pac 10 and Big Ten.

[NCCubFan]

Kentucky's definitely in the Top 25 next week, no question about it. An undefeated season to date with a win over a Top 10 team makes it a complete no-brainer. If the voters don't want to drop anyone other than Tennessee out they can always rank 26 teams by creating a tie for #25.

[Mephistopheles]

Kentucky's definitely in the Top 25 next week, no question about it. An undefeated season to date with a win over a Top 10 team makes it a complete no-brainer. If the voters don't want to drop anyone other than Tennessee out they can always rank 26 teams by creating a tie for #25.

 

Dont be surprised if Michigan is back in the top 25. Also I expect Alabama and Kentucky to be ranked next week. Both deserve it. Tennessee is definitely out. Two lackluster performances, granted against top ten teams but still.