Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-15-2007

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Box Scores:

 

Iowa won 6-3, box:

 

CF E. Patterson 0/5, K

RF B. Coats 2/5, R, RBI, K

DH G. Soto 0/2, R, 2 BB

3B M. Craig 1/4, R, 2 RBI, K

SP K. Hart 6 IP, 3 ER, 7 H, 3 K/1 BB, 2 HR, 10 GO-5 FO, 81 pitches (48 strikes)

RP N. Cotts 1 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 1 K/0 BB, 0 GO-2 FO, 8 pitches (6 strikes)

RP B. Petrick 1 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 1 K/0 BB, 2 HBP, 1 GO-1 FO, 17 pitches (9 strikes)

RP R. Cherry 1 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 2 K/0 BB, 1 GO-0 FO, 14 pitches (8 strikes)

 

Tennessee won 14-6, box:

 

LF J. Cortes 2/4, 3 R, RBI, BB, K

CF T. Colvin 3/5, 2 R, 2B (9), 2 RBI, SB (5)

3B C. McGehee 2/5, R, 2B (22), HR (8), 4 RBI, 2 K, E (9, fielding)

1B K. Reynolds 1/4, 3 RBI, 2 K

RF I. Salas 1/4, 2 R, HR (7), RBI, BB

C C. Robinson 1/3, 2 R, 2B (14), RBI, BB

2B N. Spears 3/4, 2 R, 2B (1), RBI, BB

SP M. Holliman 5 IP, 5 ER, 7 H, 9 K/1 BB, HBP, 2 HR, 3 GO-3 FO; hitting: 1/2

RP G. Johnson 2 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 4 K/0 BB, 2 GO-0 FO

 

Daytona lost 10-9, box:

 

DH S. Clevenger 2/5, 2 R

1B B. Dopirak 3/3, 3 R, 2 2B (19), RBI, 2 K

RF R. Harvey 3/5, 2 R, RBI

LF Y. Carter 2/4, R, HR (5), 3 RBI

SS J. Mota 2/4, R, 2B (2), 3B (1), 2 RBI, K, E (4, throw)

SP J. Estrada 6 IP, 2 ER, 7 H, 6 K/2 BB, 6 GO-6 FO

RP S. Koerber 1 IP, 4 ER, 4 H, 0 K/2 BB, 3 GO-0 FO

 

Peoria with the day off.

 

Boise won 15-11, box:

 

2B T. Thomas 2/4, 2B (10), 3B (5), 4 RBI, K

LF T. Wright 2/4, 3 R, 2B (12), E (4, fielding)

RF K. Burke 1/3, 3 R, HR (8), 2 RBI, BB, HBP, SB (1), OF assist at second base

3B M. Smith 4/4, 4 R, 2B (11), 2 RBI, BB, K

DH L. Bautista 2/4, 2 R, 2B (2), 2 RBI, BB, K

SP A. Cabrera 2.2 IP, 4 ER, 7 H, 1 K/1 BB, 4 GO-2 FO - left game with injury

RP M. Pawelek 2 IP, 1 ER, 2 H, 2 K/1 BB, 2 GO-1 FO

RP A. Santana 1 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 2 K/1 BB, 3 GO-1 FO

 

Mesa lost 7-2, box:

 

CF B. Guyer 2/5, CS (2)

2B G. Guzman 1/3, 2B (4), RBI, BB

SS M. Gonzalez 0/4, K

C C. Perez 0/1, 2 BB, K

3B J. Rosa 0/3, BB, 2 K

LF C. Andersen 0/3, 2 K

RF Nelson Perez 2/4, R, 2B (2), E (4, throw), OF assist at third base

SP A. Harben 2 IP, 1 ER, 1 H, 2 K/3 BB, WP, 4 GO-0 FO

RP H. Tolentino 3 IP, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 H, 4 K/2 BB, HBP, 3 GO-1 FO

RP R. Acosta 2 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 2 K/2 BB, 2 GO-1 FO

 

DSL Cubs won 10-6, box:

 

SS R. Bautista 2/5, 2 R, BB, K, 2 SB (12), CS (5), E (16, fielding)

2B S. Castro 1/3, 2 R, RBI, 2 BB

CF A. Quezada 0/3, 2 R, RBI, 2 BB, K, SB (10)

C A. Sosa 2/5, R, RBI, SB (5), CS (4), PO

3B J. Contreras 3/4, R, 2B (9), HR (5), 4 RBI, E (19, throw)

SP M. Perez 5 IP, 4 ER, 6 H, 1 K/0 BB, HBP, 2 HR, 6 GO-8 FO

RP M. Sierra 1.1 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 0 K/1 BB, WP, 1 GO-3 FO

 

Overall: 4-2

Edited August 16, 2007 by CaliforniaRaisin

[Guest]

Probable Starters:

 

Iowa: RHP Kevin Hart (Iowa & Tenn: 9-6, 4.20 ERA, 135 IP, 117 K/39 BB, .264 BAA)

Tennessee: RHP Mark Holliman (9-9, 3.31 ERA, 138.2 IP, 85 K/48 BB, .250 BAA)

Daytona: RHP Jesse Estrada (4-3, 4.76 ERA, 111.2 IP, 86 K/33 BB, .275 BAA)

Boise: RHP Alberto Cabrera (3-3, 4.79 ERA, 35.2 IP, 32 K/17 BB, .260 BAA)

Mesa: LHP Michael Bunton (3-3, 3.00 ERA, 39 IP, 20 K/15 BB, .287 BAA)

DSL Cubs: RHP Rogelino Carmona (1-2, 4.40 ERA, 45 IP, 27 K/16 BB, .281 BAA)

[Guest]

Kyler Burke his a 2-run HR for Boise a few mins ago. I do like his swing. Tony Thomas also has an RBI double.

 

And now Burke guns out a guy trying to stretch a single into a double. Great arm too.

[imb]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

[Guest]

Alberto Cabrera is hurt again. :( Hope it's not the shoulder again.

[Guest]

Rehabbing Adam Harben gets the start for Mesa.

 

EDIT: Ok, I'm really impressed with Burke. He walked to load the bases, taking a couple borderline pitches along the way.

[CubColtPacer]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

 

I wouldn't say without power. Right now his AA numbers project him to hit 30-35 doubles, 6-8 triples, and 15-20 homers over a full season. While that isn't a ton of power, that's certainly not no power.

[Guest]

Billy Petrick threw a scoreless inning of relief for Iowa in his first appearance since being DLed.

[imb]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

 

I wouldn't say without power. Right now his AA numbers project him to hit 30-35 doubles, 6-8 triples, and 15-20 homers over a full season. While that isn't a ton of power, that's certainly not no power.

 

His slugging percentage is .459

 

That's pretty much no power.

[E.J.]

Still no Kroeger? Thought he was supposed to be back last week. Doesn't look like he's played since the end of July. Any word on him?

[Guest]

Still no Kroeger? Thought he was supposed to be back last week. Doesn't look like he's played since the end of July. Any word on him?

 

I believe there was a chance he could be back as early as last week, nothing set. I haven't heard anything about him since.

[CubColtPacer]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

 

I wouldn't say without power. Right now his AA numbers project him to hit 30-35 doubles, 6-8 triples, and 15-20 homers over a full season. While that isn't a ton of power, that's certainly not no power.

 

His slugging percentage is .459

 

That's pretty much no power.

 

It would be 68th out of 176 qualified players in the major leagues. So that would be an above average slugging percentage overall.

 

If you look at just CF's, he would be 6th out of 22 qualified. He would be just behind Grady Sizemore, and ahead of guys like Bill Hall, Mike Cameron, Vernon Wells, and Andruw Jones.

 

If you have a SLG percentage above .450, that is not even close to no power. It's not great, but it is definitely above average.

 

Now, his numbers at Tennessee are not that exciting overall still, but the numbers since the break are much better and are somewhat exciting. Hopefully as time goes on he shows that the first 70 at-bats was just adjusting to AA.

[UBlink]

Still no Kroeger? Thought he was supposed to be back last week. Doesn't look like he's played since the end of July. Any word on him?

 

I believe there was a chance he could be back as early as last week, nothing set. I haven't heard anything about him since.

 

I think I remember hearing on a pre- or post-game show earlier this week that both Kroeger and Moore could be back soon.

[sethuel1]

Geovany Soto.

[FloridaCubbie]

Geovany Soto.

when was the last time he didn't get on base twice?

[Brian]

Another solid day for Dope & Harvey

[Guest]

IowaCubs.com[/url]"]Cubs Club Royals 6-3

Iowa Scores Five Run in the Top of the First

By Deene Ehlis / http://www.iowacubs.com

 

fter being shutout Tuesday night, Iowa scored five runs in the first inning Wednesday night on their way to a 6-3 win over Omaha at Rosenblatt Stadium.

Matt Craig opened the scoring with a two run single, extending his hitting streak to eleven games. John Nelson followed Craig with a three run homer. The runs came off Brandon Duckworth, on a rehab assignment from Kansas City. On Nelson's first inning homer, Cubs manager Buddy Bailey said, "that really gave us the momentum and a cushion. The key, when you score those runs, the pitcher has to go out and put up some zeros and Hart was able to do that."

 

Kevin Hart worked six innings, allowing just home runs to Angel Berroa and Craig Brazell good for three Omaha runs. Hart, the winning pitcher, is now 3-1. Bailey was impressed with Hart's outing, "He was in control most of the way and did a really nice job."

 

Neal Cotts pitched a perfect seventh inning, Billy Petrick the eighth and Rocky Cherry a one-two-three ninth inning for his fifth save.

 

Geovany Soto went 0-2 with two walks, ending his hitting streak at fifteen games.

 

The Cubs are now 70-55 and remain four and one-half games behind Nashville in the American North. Nashville defeated New Orleans Wednesday afternoon.

 

SmokiesBaseball.com[/url]"]Smokies pound Chattanooga Wednesday, 14-6

 

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. - The Tennessee Smokies proved to be too much for the Chattanooga Lookouts Wednesday afternoon at AT&T Field. The Smokies collected 16 hits en route to a 14-6 victory over the Lookouts.

 

Casey McGehee paced Tennessee with a first inning run-scoring double. Kyle Reynolds followed with an run-scoring groundout.

 

After Tennessee's got off to the early 2-0 lead, the Lookouts countered in the bottom of the first. The Lookouts' Daniel Dorn hit a two-run home run to right to even the score at 2-2.

 

The Smokies, however, would pull away in the subsequent innings to build an 11-2 lead by the fifth. They scored one in the third and then capped off a five-run fourth with a three-run home run by McGehee. Chris Robinson and Nate Spears knocked in runs with fifth-inning RBI doubles.

 

Faced with an intimidating deficit, the Lookouts continued to chip-away. New addition Miguel Perez hit a solo shot in the top of the fifth, and a two-run single from Michael Griffin closed the gap to 11-5.

 

Perez struck again in the sixth inning with another solo shot for the Lookouts, bringing the score to 12-6.

 

Chattanooga's attempt to pull-off a comeback proved to be a futile though, as the Smokies tacked on another run in the seventh with an Issmael Salas solo home run off the stadium scoreboard. They would add two more in the eighth.

 

DaytonaCubs.com[/url]"]Cubs lose fourth straight, 10-9

Daytona unable to hang on to five run lead late

 

By: Josh Landsburg

 

[DAYTONA BEACH, FL] After leading 9-4 going into the top of the eighth inning, Daytona's pitching and defense completely fell apart, as they allowed six runs to the St. Lucie Mets and gave them the lead,10-9, which they did not relinquish. The Cubs lost their second in a row to the Mets, and their fourth overall.

 

Jesse Estrada started off the game rough by giving up a leadoff double to Sean Henry, but then he retired the next three in a row to end the first inning. The Cubs went down in order in the bottom half, and then Estrada started off the top of the second inning the same way the first inning began by giving up a leadoff double.

 

Unfortunately for him though, and the Cubs, it did not end the same way. After Estrada gave up that leadoff double to Dan Murphy, he allowed an infield single and then an RBI double before settling down again. With one run in, and runners at second and third with nobody out, Estrada was really impressive as he struck out three straight St. Lucie hitters. Overall Estrada pitched well, going six innings, and only giving up two runs, with six strikeouts to boot.

 

After escaping the top of the second inning by only allowing one run, the Cubs roared back in the bottom of the second inning by giving their pitcher three runs of support. With five hits in the inning, including a triple and a two-run homer by Jonathan Mota and Yusef Carter respectively, the Cubs were able to take the lead 3-1 after 2 innings.

 

The next couple innings were relatively quiet for both teams, but in the top of the fifth inning, St. Lucie was able to chip away at the Daytona lead when Jonathan Malo scored to make it 3-2.

 

However, Daytona came right back in the bottom of the sixth inning with three runs on four hits to make it 6-2. Brian Dopirak and Jonathan Mota played crucial roles in this inning, knocking in all three runs with RBI doubles.

 

St. Lucie had a lot of fight in them tonight though, as they showed more later, because they came right back in the top of the seventh inning with two runs of their own to make it 6-4 Daytona.

 

In the bottom of the seventh inning, the Cubs were again able to add three more of their own runs, with RBI's by Ryan Harvey and Carter, to make it 9-4, which seemed like it would be enough for the victory at the time.

 

But, in a wild eighth inning, the Mets were able to put up a six spot to take the lead 10-9 for good. In an inning in which the Mets sent 10 batters to the plate, and the cubs committed three errors and gave up two walks, the Mets were able to score those six runs on only three hits. Josh Petersen's RBI double was the only extra base hit given up in that inning.

 

After not scoring in the eighth inning, the Cubs had one more chance in the ninth inning to erase what was once a five run lead for them. After Brian Dopirak walked with one out, Mark Reed came in to pinch run, but Ryan Harvey flew out to right field, and Alfred Joseph, who was pinch-hitting for Billy Mottram, struck out swinging, and the Cubs stranded Reed at first.

 

BoiseHawks.com[/url]"]Hawks Complete Sweep of Bears with 15-11 Win

 

The Boise Hawks continued their march towards a division championship Wednesday night completing a sweep of the Yakima Bears, 15-11. Marquez Smith had four hits for the Hawks, including his fifth home run of the season. Kyler Burke started the scoring for the Hawks with his eighth home run of the season in the second inning. Tony Thomas had a double and a triple to extend his hitting streak to 15 games, the second longest streak on the Hawks this season.

 

Mark Pawelek picked up the win in relief. The Hawks used six pitchers as the Yakima Bears pounded out 18 hits.

 

The Hawks head out on the road for their longest road trip of the season beginning with three games in Spokane.

 

The Hawk's pitching rotation for the series; Friday: Arik Hempy, Saturday:Dustin Sasser, Sunday: Zach Ashwood.

[CubinNY]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

 

I wouldn't say without power. Right now his AA numbers project him to hit 30-35 doubles, 6-8 triples, and 15-20 homers over a full season. While that isn't a ton of power, that's certainly not no power.

 

His slugging percentage is .459

 

That's pretty much no power.

 

It would be 68th out of 176 qualified players in the major leagues. So that would be an above average slugging percentage overall.

 

If you look at just CF's, he would be 6th out of 22 qualified. He would be just behind Grady Sizemore, and ahead of guys like Bill Hall, Mike Cameron, Vernon Wells, and Andruw Jones.

 

If you have a SLG percentage above .450, that is not even close to no power. It's not great, but it is definitely above average.

 

Now, his numbers at Tennessee are not that exciting overall still, but the numbers since the break are much better and are somewhat exciting. Hopefully as time goes on he shows that the first 70 at-bats was just adjusting to AA.

When are you going to learn that it is not ok to project from a limited set of data? Colvin may very well be an average to above average power hitter some day, but the numbers don't say it is so.

[CubColtPacer]

Good News: Colvin is hitting .297

 

Bad News: He's doing it without power and with an ISOD of .014

 

I wouldn't say without power. Right now his AA numbers project him to hit 30-35 doubles, 6-8 triples, and 15-20 homers over a full season. While that isn't a ton of power, that's certainly not no power.

 

His slugging percentage is .459

 

That's pretty much no power.

 

It would be 68th out of 176 qualified players in the major leagues. So that would be an above average slugging percentage overall.

 

If you look at just CF's, he would be 6th out of 22 qualified. He would be just behind Grady Sizemore, and ahead of guys like Bill Hall, Mike Cameron, Vernon Wells, and Andruw Jones.

 

If you have a SLG percentage above .450, that is not even close to no power. It's not great, but it is definitely above average.

 

Now, his numbers at Tennessee are not that exciting overall still, but the numbers since the break are much better and are somewhat exciting. Hopefully as time goes on he shows that the first 70 at-bats was just adjusting to AA.

When are you going to learn that it is not ok to project from a limited set of data? Colvin may very well be an average to above average power hitter some day, but the numbers don't say it is so.

 

What numbers? At every minor league stop he's been at, he's been an average to above average power hitter. That was the case at Boise, it was the case at Daytona, and it is the case at Tennessee.

 

In fact, by comparing him to the major leagues, I was actually doing Colvin a disservice. The Southern League is not exactly a power league. The top team in the league has a .409 SLG percentage. Colvin has a .459. He has above average power in AA, just like he did in his previous two spots. Colvin's OBP is his problem, not his SLG.

Edited August 16, 2007 by CubColtPacer

[Transmogrified Tiger]

An IsoP of .162 would rank T-95th of 175 qualified hitters. It would be T-37th of 62 qualified OF. It would be 12th of 22 qualified CF. Not above average, and on the lower end of "average" depending on how semantical you want to be.

[CubColtPacer]

An IsoP of .162 would rank T-95th of 175 qualified hitters. It would be T-37th of 62 qualified OF. It would be 12th of 22 qualified CF. Not above average, and on the lower end of "average" depending on how semantical you want to be.

 

That's true, and like I said in my last post comparing AA numbers to ML numbers was a bad idea. They are very different leagues, and AA slugging numbers are way down across the board. If you compare Colvin's ISOP to his league, he stacks up much more favorably.

 

Here are the ISOP's of the different teams in AA:

 

Tennessee: .122

Mobile: .136

Mississippi: .123

Montgomery: .135

Jacksonville: .140

Hunstville: .116

Chattanooga: .140

Birmingham: .110

Carolina: .160

West Tenn: .132

 

So Colvin has a slightly higher ISOP than the best team number in the league, and much better than all the other teams. Taking CF's only probably would make Colvin that much more above average for his league.

His slugging is no amazing number, but it'd definitely above average.

 

Note: I used team numbers because only using qualified hitters in AA excludes most of the best players that have been promoted at some point in the season, and I wanted to get their at-bats included in the sample to make it more fair.

Edited August 16, 2007 by CubColtPacer

[Guest]

In Colvin's favor, the FSL and SL aren't power hitter leagues.