Pat Burrell Has Cleared Waivers...

[HoopsCubs]

... according to Ken Rosenthal - today on Fox Sports.

 

If the Phillies fade the next 2 weeks, I wonder if they'd try and trade him.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Burrell would be a perfect addition.

[wilk]

Burrell's bat would be a great help but I can't see him being a "perfect addition" when he's an awful left-fielder and he'd be forced to play right. And yes, Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd/Murton. What, was no one who could play right put on waivers?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

[anabiono]

guys, i really think soriano should be moved to right field

 

it is a very logical move, and i am sure he could handle the transition well

[Brian]

I'm all for Pat the bat.

[JeffH]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

 

He'd be quite a bit worse.

 

Of course, Floyd is so awful offensively that it might actually be worth it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Of course, I really would prefer moving Soriano to right if Burrell were acquired.

 

Right now, Burell could have left and Murton moved to right. When Soriano returns, we could put Sori in rightfield.

 

Getting Burrell is a much better move than Posednick and would improve the offense.

[OleMissCub]

Yes please.

[hawkeyecub]

The biggest issue obviously is the $14M he's owed next year. How much can/would Hendry take on and how much would they be willing to eat?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The biggest issue obviously is the $14M he's owed next year. How much can/would Hendry take on and how much would they be willing to eat?

 

I think a lot of how much they would eat would depend on the level of player the Cubs sent back to Philly in return.

[minnesotacubsfan]

The biggest issue obviously is the $14M he's owed next year. How much can/would Hendry take on and how much would they be willing to eat?

 

I think a lot of how much they would eat would depend on the level of player the Cubs sent back to Philly in return.

 

 

pffffffffffft..that would depend on Hendry being back or not. most GM's, your right. Hendry, give THEM the farm AND pay all of Burrells salry

[badger1679666666]

I think Hendry is handcuffed with respect to salary, which is a big reason nothing was done at the deadline. I know people like to whip the donut eater, but I really don't think he's allowed to take on any significant salary with the team up for sale.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

 

He'd be quite a bit worse.

 

I don't agree. Burrell misplaying a ball is better than Floyd not getting to it at all. I literally think it would be impossible to do worse than him defensively, his range is completely nonexistent.

[cbbryan]

I think Hendry is handcuffed with respect to salary, which is a big reason nothing was done at the deadline. I know people like to whip the donut eater, but I really don't think he's allowed to take on any significant salary with the team up for sale.

 

I think you may be right, but I'm still not sure why added salary effects the sale much?!?!

 

Seriously, if Hendry signed Z long-term and added a big bat like Griffey, or Burrell.................... do you really think the sale price would drop at all. I really doubt it. I could be wrong, though, who knows!

[wilk]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

 

He'd be quite a bit worse.

 

I don't agree. Burrell misplaying a ball is better than Floyd not getting to it at all. I literally think it would be impossible to do worse than him defensively, his range is completely nonexistent.

 

It's pointless to argue unless they both play it and we can actually compare, but I definitely disagree. How much Burrell have you watched? I'm willing to bet not enough and you're making an intelligent guess based on how poorly you feel Floyd's been. It might be hard to believe but Burrell is worse and Wrigley's right isn't going to improve anything for him. I think Burrell is easily worse than Floyd or Murton out there.

[RynoRules]

Pat's OBP of .417 and OPS-plus of 133 more then make up for his defensive issues. Plus he's turning 31, which should mean that he has 3 or 4 more "prime" years left. Do it!

[Outshined_One]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

 

He'd be quite a bit worse.

 

I don't agree. Burrell misplaying a ball is better than Floyd not getting to it at all. I literally think it would be impossible to do worse than him defensively, his range is completely nonexistent.

 

It's pointless to argue unless they both play it and we can actually compare, but I definitely disagree. How much Burrell have you watched? I'm willing to bet not enough and you're making an intelligent guess based on how poorly you feel Floyd's been. It might be hard to believe but Burrell is worse and Wrigley's right isn't going to improve anything for him. I think Burrell is easily worse than Floyd or Murton out there.

 

You could put a coatrack with a glove and a Cubs hat on it in Floyd's place and it would be an improvement. Unless Burrell does things such as throw the ball into the LF bleachers on a play at the plate or flirt with Burrell's Girls after making a catch instead of hitting the cutoff man, I have a feeling Burrell would have to actually make a conscious effort to be worse than Floyd is out there.

[Backtobanks]

I'm not so sure Burrell would be worse in right than Floyd. Floyd is brutal out there.

 

He'd be quite a bit worse.

 

I don't agree. Burrell misplaying a ball is better than Floyd not getting to it at all. I literally think it would be impossible to do worse than him defensively, his range is completely nonexistent.

 

It's pointless to argue unless they both play it and we can actually compare, but I definitely disagree. How much Burrell have you watched? I'm willing to bet not enough and you're making an intelligent guess based on how poorly you feel Floyd's been. It might be hard to believe but Burrell is worse and Wrigley's right isn't going to improve anything for him. I think Burrell is easily worse than Floyd or Murton out there.

 

You could put a coatrack with a glove and a Cubs hat on it in Floyd's place and it would be an improvement. Unless Burrell does things such as throw the ball into the LF bleachers on a play at the plate or flirt with Burrell's Girls after making a catch instead of hitting the cutoff man, I have a feeling Burrell would have to actually make a conscious effort to be worse than Floyd is out there.

 

That's a pretty good description of Burrell in the OF.

[Twiggy]

go get him hendry

[hawkeyecub]

It's not as simple as some of you are making it.

 

Yes he is absolutely awful in the outfield. He misplays balls routinely, takes terrible routes, he has amazing trouble ever picking up a ball cleanly off the ground and his arm and where he throws the ball is very inconsistent. Basically all of the bad attributes we've seen from Pagan, Jones, Floyd and Murton exist in Pat.

He may not be a terrible downgrade from what we have this year with Floyd, but do we want to be committed to that next year also?

 

He can be extremely inconsistent and disappear for a month or two or more at a time. He hit .215/.378/.408 for a .786 OPS in the first half. He's hit an absurd .404/.526/.697 since the break. Even at age 31, it just scares me that there seems like a decent chance he can revert to '04 or close to '03 numbers.

 

Would I love his bat from the last 3 years in this lineup? Without a doubt. But I'm not so sure I want to commit $14M to him (plus decent prospects) considering his awful defense and the fact that I'm not sure he'll be much of a better overall value than Murton.

[jyoung55]

Just because he cleared waivers doesn't mean that the Phils will really trade him. What motivation would they have? Why would they want to get worse and make us better when they are actually ahead of us in the standings? :?:

[Tracer Bullet]

Just because he cleared waivers doesn't mean that the Phils will really trade him. What motivation would they have? Why would they want to get worse and make us better when they are actually ahead of us in the standings? :?:

 

I might be wrong, but I thought the Phils have been looking to dump Burrell's salary for a couple years now. I don't think they view dumping him as getting worse.

[nolanwood]

They've got nice young Of'ers in Bourn (currently on the DL) and Werth to replace Burrell.

[katway]

I think Hendry is handcuffed with respect to salary, which is a big reason nothing was done at the deadline. I know people like to whip the donut eater, but I really don't think he's allowed to take on any significant salary with the team up for sale.

 

I think you may be right, but I'm still not sure why added salary effects the sale much?!?!

 

Seriously, if Hendry signed Z long-term and added a big bat like Griffey, or Burrell.................... do you really think the sale price would drop at all. I really doubt it. I could be wrong, though, who knows!

 

The organizational thinking may be that the Cubs are an asset sale. The Cubs as an asset have a given value somewhat independent of the players on the current roster. Future liabilities, such as player salaries, are likely to be used by any acquirer as leverage to lower the sales price. Players like Griffey with significant deferred salary for past services are even worse because if the Cubs assume the deferred salary payments, those future payments may not be deductible by the acquirer of the Cubs as they do not relate to services performed for the acquirer. On the other hand, if the Cubs go further in the playoffs (a big IF) and thereby increase merchandise/ticket sales, etc. it may increase their value.