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since it's MLBTradeRumors, I'd be surprised if this was even reported on WSCR.

 

Actuallty, the site has come a long way.

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since it's MLBTradeRumors, I'd be surprised if this was even reported on WSCR.

 

It was reported by WSCR yesterday. I was listening when they reported it. It's true.

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since it's MLBTradeRumors, I'd be surprised if this was even reported on WSCR.

 

It was reported by WSCR yesterday. I was listening when they reported it. It's true.

 

ahh, ok. I've been skeptical of MLBTR in the past, haven't really gone there recently but it sounds like they are more credible then they used to be.

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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.
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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.

 

while we do have problems against lefties....

 

1. we face way more righties

 

2. defense is not the problem, offense, namely power, is. dunn remedies this.

 

3. we have some tradeable commodities.

 

4. soriano goes to right, dunn stays in left.

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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.

 

while we do have problems against lefties....

 

1. we face way more righties

 

2. defense is not the problem, offense, namely power, is. dunn remedies this.

 

3. we have some tradeable commodities.

 

4. soriano goes to right, dunn stays in left.

 

yeah...soriano went down earlier in the year...moved from CF to LF...so...it is only natural to assume...given the soon to be acquisition of Dunn...that he will move to RF upon his return to the club

 

third time is a charm, right?

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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.

 

while we do have problems against lefties....

 

1. we face way more righties

 

2. defense is not the problem, offense, namely power, is. dunn remedies this.

 

3. we have some tradeable commodities.

 

4. soriano goes to right, dunn stays in left.

 

yeah...soriano went down earlier in the year...moved from CF to LF...so...it is only natural to assume...given the soon to be acquisition of Dunn...that he will move to RF upon his return to the club

 

third time is a charm, right?

 

i like soriano in left, i really do. but dunn is much more valuable in left, and soriano is more valuable in right. sorry, sori, you're ours for as long as the cubs want you, so you'll do what you're told.

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i can see the difference between cf and a corner spot, but i'm not sure i get why right would be any more difficult to play than left for sori. and his arm becomes immediately more valuable in right.
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i can see the difference between cf and a corner spot, but i'm not sure i get why right would be any more difficult to play than left for sori. and his arm becomes immediately more valuable in right.

 

this is my only question. i'm not sure if a strong, accurate arm is more valuable in right, as most hits or fly balls with risp actually go to left. i don't know if having your best arm in right is conventional wisdom or statistically backed up.

 

i've asked this question before.

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i can see the difference between cf and a corner spot, but i'm not sure i get why right would be any more difficult to play than left for sori. and his arm becomes immediately more valuable in right.

 

this is my only question. i'm not sure if a strong, accurate arm is more valuable in right, as most hits or fly balls with risp actually go to left. i don't know if having your best arm in right is conventional wisdom or statistically backed up.

 

i've asked this question before.

I think the primary benefit is in regard to the throw to third. The best arm being in right field allows for an inferior arm to have an easier time making an accurate throw to third from left. In terms of throwing to the plate though, I would imagine that you're right about left being a better spot for the arm.

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I think the fact that a player can clear waivers is pretty much telling us that he sucks. If the player has another year on his contract alah Jacque Jones, he really sucks.

 

 

I say this and then point out that Matt Murton would not clear waivers. So why are the Cubs struggling with what common sense should be screaming at them.

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i can see the difference between cf and a corner spot, but i'm not sure i get why right would be any more difficult to play than left for sori. and his arm becomes immediately more valuable in right.

 

this is my only question. i'm not sure if a strong, accurate arm is more valuable in right, as most hits or fly balls with risp actually go to left. i don't know if having your best arm in right is conventional wisdom or statistically backed up.

 

i've asked this question before.

I think the primary benefit is in regard to the throw to third. The best arm being in right field allows for an inferior arm to have an easier time making an accurate throw to third from left. In terms of throwing to the plate though, I would imagine that you're right about left being a better spot for the arm.

 

oh, i take the throw to third into consideration. but i'd like to see someone actually quantify the value of having an arm like soriano's in left and right and then comapre them.

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I think the fact that a player can clear waivers is pretty much telling us that he sucks. If the player has another year on his contract alah Jacque Jones, he really sucks.

 

 

I say this and then point out that Matt Murton would not clear waivers. So why are the Cubs struggling with what common sense should be screaming at them.

 

no, players that clear waivers don't necessarily suck.they'ree just generally overpaid.

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I think the fact that a player can clear waivers is pretty much telling us that he sucks. If the player has another year on his contract alah Jacque Jones, he really sucks.

 

 

I say this and then point out that Matt Murton would not clear waivers. So why are the Cubs struggling with what common sense should be screaming at them.

 

That really has nothing to do with anything.

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A seven month rental should cost at most a B prospect, even Dunn. It's only 7 weeks of value. Go get a bat Hendry.
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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.

 

while we do have problems against lefties....

 

1. we face way more righties

 

 

Seems like we're facing way more lefties lately though. There must be more lefty starters in the NL in general now because I don't remember facing this many.

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My opposition to Dunn is that he doesn't help against lefties, he's horrible in the OF, he would probably cost way too much in trade, and he would have no position when Soriano comes back.

 

while we do have problems against lefties....

 

1. we face way more righties

 

 

Seems like we're facing way more lefties lately though. There must be more lefty starters in the NL in general now because I don't remember facing this many.

 

The Cubs have actually faced a really small amount of left-handed starters this year. They have only had 28 out of 111, which is small. This week has been really bad for them though in terms of facing left-handers. With the teams the Cubs have left, the number of left-handed starters they face should go down from what it has been recently.

(In contrast in the division, Cincy has faced 32, Houston 36, St. Louis 39, and Milwaukee 40).

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Its Hendry were talking about here so:

 

1. Smartest option who have the largest impact - Dunn

 

2. Poorest option who'll have no impact whatsoever (unless the Phillies are back on schedule) - Conine

 

Given these options I believe its pretty clear who's going to end up as a Cub.

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Its Hendry were talking about here so:

 

1. Smartest option who have the largest impact - Dunn

 

2. Poorest option who have no impact whatsoever (unless the Phillies are back on schedule) - Conine

 

Given these options I believe its pretty clear who's going to end up as Cub.

 

It depends what the Reds will demand for Dunn. They may ask for Gallagher knowing we are desperate.

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Its Hendry were talking about here so:

 

1. Smartest option who have the largest impact - Dunn

 

2. Poorest option who have no impact whatsoever (unless the Phillies are back on schedule) - Conine

 

Given these options I believe its pretty clear who's going to end up as Cub.

 

It depends what the Reds will demand for Dunn. They may ask for Gallagher knowing we are desperate.

 

Done, where does Hendry sign?

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Its Hendry were talking about here so:

 

1. Smartest option who have the largest impact - Dunn

 

2. Poorest option who have no impact whatsoever (unless the Phillies are back on schedule) - Conine

 

Given these options I believe its pretty clear who's going to end up as Cub.

 

It depends what the Reds will demand for Dunn. They may ask for Gallagher knowing we are desperate.

 

Done, where does Hendry sign?

 

only a fool would do that trade.

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It's a moot point since Gallagher is on the 40-man and wouldn't clear waivers in a million years.

 

He'd only have to pass through 1 team (Pittsburgh) and since Hendry and the Pittsburgh G.M. are friends, my guess is that Pittsburgh wouldn't claim him.

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