Alfonso Soriano Is Hurt (2-4 Weeks)

[Skyballer]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right.

Correct.

and batting him leadoff

Sarcasm, right?

[E.J.]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right and batting him leadoff.

 

Murton starting in RF and batting 2nd behind Theriot. Murton/Theriot definitely have a better chance of putting up a better OBP than Soriano/Theriot.

[Skyballer]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right and batting him leadoff.

 

Murton starting in RF and batting 2nd behind Theriot. Murton/Theriot definitely have a better chance of putting up a better OBP than Soriano/Theriot.

:idea:

Where do I get #'s for lineup spots?

[Rob]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right.

Correct.

and batting him leadoff

Sarcasm, right?

 

You do realize speed doesn't mean jack crap at the top of the lineup, right? As a matter of fact, our attempts at stealing this year have actually cost us -3.52 runs according to EqSBR on BP. Murton's OBP is far more important than any amount of speed could be.

[Alfonso Soriano]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070805&content_id=2132522&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano limped off the field Sunday night with a strained right quad, and his status was day-to-day.

 

Soriano had singled with two outs in the Cubs third, the first hit off New York Mets pitcher Tom Glavine. Ryan Theriot then singled to center, and Soriano started running to third. About four steps after rounding second base, Soriano pulled up and tried to hop to third on his left leg.

 

The sellout crowd at Wrigley Field was silent as Soriano was helped off the field.

 

The outfielder, sidelined earlier this season with a strained left hamstring, was batting .296 with 18 homers and 42 RBIs, and his single ended an 0-for-9 streak. He now is 21-for-88 in his last 20 games.

[Skyballer]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right.

Correct.

and batting him leadoff

Sarcasm, right?

 

You do realize speed doesn't mean jack crap at the top of the lineup, right? As a matter of fact, our attempts at stealing this year have actually cost us -3.52 runs according to EqSBR on BP. Murton's OBP is far more important than any amount of speed could be.

And, he's a good baserunner despite his speed.

I'm starting to agree with you.

[Keener98]

Soriano will likely require at least a 15 day DL stint. The only good thing is that there are 3 guys who would be able to fill in at leadoff, in Theriot, Fontenot, and Pie, who will likely come up if Soriano does in fact hit the DL.

 

Theriot yes, Fontenot no, and Pie HELL NO regarding the leadoff spot. Pie is not a leadoff man.

:shock: :shock:

Did you just say Therot can hit, that's not allowed on here, and will not be tolereated

 

No I didnt say Theriot could hit. Out of the people who Lou are willing to play, since Murton must have slept with Lous wife, then yes Theriot is our best option at leadoff.

[OleMissCub]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070805&content_id=2132522&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano limped off the field Sunday night with a strained right quad, and his status was day-to-day.

 

Which means 30day DL in Cubs World.

[Rob]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070805&content_id=2132522&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano limped off the field Sunday night with a strained right quad, and his status was day-to-day.

 

Which means 30day DL in Cubs World.

 

There's no such thing as the 30 day DL.

[OleMissCub]

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070805&content_id=2132522&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano limped off the field Sunday night with a strained right quad, and his status was day-to-day.

 

Which means 30day DL in Cubs World.

 

There's no such thing as the 30 day DL.

 

Whatever, 60 day.

[Illini Iceman]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right.

Correct.

and batting him leadoff

Sarcasm, right?

 

You do realize speed doesn't mean jack crap at the top of the lineup, right? As a matter of fact, our attempts at stealing this year have actually cost us -3.52 runs according to EqSBR on BP. Murton's OBP is far more important than any amount of speed could be.

 

Actually, according to studies by Bill James, batting order as a whole makes little or no difference. As long as you don't bat your worst hitters at the top or middle of the order you can mix the other players around randomly and the total runs created comes out almost exactly the same.

[Rob]

We'd probably just be best off putting Murton in right.

Correct.

and batting him leadoff

Sarcasm, right?

 

You do realize speed doesn't mean jack crap at the top of the lineup, right? As a matter of fact, our attempts at stealing this year have actually cost us -3.52 runs according to EqSBR on BP. Murton's OBP is far more important than any amount of speed could be.

 

Actually, according to studies by Bill James, batting order as a whole makes little or no difference. As long as you don't bat your worst hitters at the top or middle of the order you can mix the other players around randomly and the total runs created comes out almost exactly the same.

 

Tom Tango's studies show that a mild, but significant, gain can be made by using the optimal lineup. I don't think Lou has the cajones to bat Lee 2nd, though.

[TMan92]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

[sandberg23]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

 

Ouch! :!:

[IWU_CUBS_FAN]

eh, i feel better about the chances this year than when lee got hurt last year...at least there are some options that can be used

[E.J.]

Murton better be getting the bulk of playing time in either RF or LF. There is absolutely no excuse for him not to play now.

[aerosmith21]

Does anyone else agree they should bring Pie up and play him in cf?

[USSoccer]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

 

Ouch! :!:

 

Lou needs to take a deep breath, consult with Hendry, and use this lineup:

 

Theriot

Murton

Lee

Ramirez

Floyd

DeRosa

Soto

Pie

 

Not that there was any excuse before tonight, but without Soriano we can't possibly expect to contend using Kendall, Hill, Jones and Pagan as often as we do.

[TMan92]

Does anyone else agree they should bring Pie up and play him in cf?

 

I do because the defense has been horrible in center lately.

[OBPMatters]

Just get used to DeRosa in RF and Fontenot at 2nd, with Murton and probably the called up Pie riding the pine.

[E.J.]

Murton/Pie can probably put up similar OPS to Soriano/Jones, especially with how Soriano has played lately. Soto also needs to be called up. We can't keep having every team stealing bases at will against Kendall.

[Skyballer]

Murton better be getting the bulk of playing time in either RF or LF. There is absolutely no excuse for him not to play now.

Don't worry, Lou will figure out a way to avoid using him.

He's good at that.

[Friendly Confines]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

 

Ouch! :!:

 

Lou needs to take a deep breath, consult with Hendry, and use this lineup:

 

Theriot

Murton

Lee

Ramirez

Floyd

DeRosa

Soto

Pie

 

Not that there was any excuse before tonight, but without Soriano we can't possibly expect to contend using Kendall, Hill, Jones and Pagan as often as we do.

 

For some reason I like that lineup better than most of what we've thrown out there. I wonder why...could it be the lack of Jones, Floyd, Pagan, Izturis, Hill, and Bowen?

[Skyballer]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

 

Ouch! :!:

 

Lou needs to take a deep breath, consult with Hendry, and use this lineup:

 

Theriot

Murton

Lee

Ramirez

Floyd

DeRosa

Soto

Pie

 

Not that there was any excuse before tonight, but without Soriano we can't possibly expect to contend using Kendall, Hill, Jones and Pagan as often as we do.

 

For some reason I like that lineup better than most of what we've thrown out there. I wonder why...could it be the lack of Jones, Floyd, Pagan, Izturis, Hill, and Bowen?

:idea:

[Soul]

Lou just said minimum 2 weeks, most likely a month.

 

Ouch! :!:

 

Yeah, I think this is a disaster. I do. This lineup is so severely underpowered now. It's incredible.

 

I think we'll start seeing the results in the W/L column at some point, sooner or later. And also, if they say Sori's out for a month, he'll probably barely make it back in for the end of September. That means he won't possibly be really ready for the playoffs if we did go.

 

This is huge IMO.