8/5 Mets(Glavine) @ Cubs(Marquis) 7:05 P.M. CT ESPN

[CubFanPhilly]

Soto for Hill. Pie for Pagan. Play Pie & Murton and this team gets a lot better.

[Mizzou]

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

[Soul]

in related news to kendall's two outs, soto hit another home run today

 

Doesn't he have more homeruns this season than all the players on the big league club now? Granted he's doing it in AAA, but come on already. He deserves his chance.

Shouldn't Pie play over Jones?

Shouldn't Murton play over Floyd?

Shouldn't Soto play over Kendall?

 

Face it Lou is Dusty with less skin pigment.

 

not even close

It is a lot closer than you think, besides Izturis losing out to the Riot it is close. Oh and Marquis is getting close to Estes territory.

 

It's a little closer than I originally thought, but with the moves Lou made pulling guys from the minors and back, and actually allowing Theriot the opportunity to win the job from Izzy.......Lou's still well out of Dusty territory, IMO.

[witty alias]

OMG!! The Cubs are down by 3 runs in the 5th inning!?! This game is over, and probably the season too!! This team is the worst ever!!

Honestly, it's like some people have never watched a baseball game before, much less an entire season.

 

Have you been watching this game? Or have you watched this team against LHs all year?

[Brian]

Eyre? Scott Eyre? Why is Wood getting the Murton treatment already?

 

If he comes in I'm sure he wants him to start the inning.

[Rebel_Cubbie]

anyone annoyed by the girls behind home plate that don't seem to pay attention to a SINGLE bit of the game?

 

You know what they call those girls this game -

 

"happy".

 

happy to be at the game...or to just be on TV while they talk to their friends on the phone

[Derwood]

Eyre? Scott Eyre? Why is Wood getting the Murton treatment already?

 

If he comes in I'm sure he wants him to start the inning.

 

has he even warmed up the last 3 days?

[Rusch33]

Soto for Hill. Pie for Pagan. Play Pie & Murton and this team gets a lot better.

 

Yes, put that .220/.240 in the lineup over .270/.290.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Eyre? Scott Eyre? Why is Wood getting the Murton treatment already?

 

If he comes in I'm sure he wants him to start the inning.

 

OR, Lou just wants to make sure we're down by a ton of runs so Woody gets that "soft landing" that he's been peddling the past couple days...

[illiniguy]

in related news to kendall's two outs, soto hit another home run today

 

Doesn't he have more homeruns this season than all the players on the big league club now? Granted he's doing it in AAA, but come on already. He deserves his chance.

Shouldn't Pie play over Jones?

Shouldn't Murton play over Floyd?

Shouldn't Soto play over Kendall?

 

Face it Lou is Dusty with less skin pigment.

 

not even close

It is a lot closer than you think, besides Izturis losing out to the Riot it is close. Oh and Marquis is getting close to Estes territory.

 

It's a little closer than I originally thought, but with the moves Lou made pulling guys from the minors and back, and actually allowing Theriot the opportunity to win the job from Izzy.......Lou's still well out of Dusty territory, IMO.

But, we shouldn't be happy with that. It is kind of like saying, "compared to Hitler, Hussein hasn't really killed a lot of people." Lou is hurting this team with his love affair with old, crappy outfielders. Oh and the Soto thing is ridiculous, the guy is ready to get his shot.

[Soul]

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

 

I just don't see how you can do that. He's slotted 3, after Z & Lilly. You can't just start comparing him to #5s in order to make him look better. He's in the 3 hole and badly underperforming. It's been the good performance of Marshall, and to a lesser extent, Hill, that has kept us sane.

[Brian]

Eyre? Scott Eyre? Why is Wood getting the Murton treatment already?

 

If he comes in I'm sure he wants him to start the inning.

 

has he even warmed up the last 3 days?

 

warmed up on Friday, sat down when the cubs tied

[USSoccer]

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

 

What?? "He's doing his job"?? What's his job? To pitch us out of games? To give up 4 runs in 5 IP? He's sucked the past 2 months. He's the "5th starter" because he's easily the worst on our staff. He's making too much money to have a above 5 ERA.

[abuck1220]

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

 

his job is to pitch well, and he's not doing it. you're not making any sense.

[Magnetic Curses]

so, what now? is it too late for everything?

 

good thing hendry was satisified with this team, even though they haven't hit a home run in years.

 

that risp will come down, and when it does, so will the rest of the season.

[CubFanPhilly]

Soto for Hill. Pie for Pagan. Play Pie & Murton and this team gets a lot better.

 

Yes, put that .220/.240 in the lineup over .270/.290.

 

I'd put good money on them being as good or better than .270/.290. And there's more to it than BA.

 

But I doubt we'll find out.

[CyHawk_Cub]

in related news to kendall's two outs, soto hit another home run today

 

Doesn't he have more homeruns this season than all the players on the big league club now? Granted he's doing it in AAA, but come on already. He deserves his chance.

Shouldn't Pie play over Jones?

Shouldn't Murton play over Floyd?

Shouldn't Soto play over Kendall?

 

Face it Lou is Dusty with less skin pigment.

 

not even close

It is a lot closer than you think, besides Izturis losing out to the Riot it is close. Oh and Marquis is getting close to Estes territory.

 

It's a little closer than I originally thought, but with the moves Lou made pulling guys from the minors and back, and actually allowing Theriot the opportunity to win the job from Izzy.......Lou's still well out of Dusty territory, IMO.

But, we shouldn't be happy with that. It is kind of like saying, "compared to Hitler, Hussein hasn't really killed a lot of people." Lou is hurting this team with his love affair with old, crappy outfielders. Oh and the Soto thing is ridiculous, the guy is ready to get his shot.

 

Thank you.. I tire of seeing all the "it's a crap shoot in the post season" posts. Even if that's true, I'd rather we had the best personnel possible, not the marginal, instead of counting on luck.

[Omar]

Phil Garner's voodoo is to blame.

[98navigator]

Nice to see all our flaws being exposed on national TV.

 

Marquis has been awful for 6 weeks, our OF completely sucks, our offense is inept against LHP and our trainers are beyond bad.

Yeah, aside from the fact that he hasn't.

 

Damn it DeRosa, what the hell

 

What was his July ERA again? 6?

 

Yeah, he's awesome.

Look at his game log. He hasn't been as bad as you make him out to be. As I said in another thread, he's the best 5th starter in baseball too.

 

You're right, I was wrong.

 

He's been bad for 9 weeks. His June ERA was over 5 and his July ERA was over 6.

 

Yeah, great, he can mix in one good start amidst 3 godawful ones. We should be lucky we have him for 3 years.

3 of his last 6 starts have been quality. No 5th starter in baseball has a better ERA than Marquis.

 

Keep the hyperbole coming.

 

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

 

This isn't my argument but I have to step in because Marquis hasn't been that bad overall. Look no further than the Brewers rotation and you'll see guys who have been more inconsistent. Marquis', arguably, the Cubs least dependable starter yet he hasn't been so bad that the Cubs are blown out every time he pitches.

 

This wouldn't be an issue if the Cubs had scored some runs tonight. Hell, I'm still not ready to concede this game (although, Eyre could make this a moot point).

[kente777]

that risp will come down, and when it does, so will the rest of the season.

 

yep, i agree.

[CraziCub]

Yay, more steals against the Cubs.

[Magnetic Curses]

Come on, Mizzou. "5th starter" is nonsense. That's a cherry picked fact. He's a bad starter. No contending team should have a 5th starter who pitches with an ERA above 5 for 2 straight months. You know better that that.

 

He had a very good April and a decent May. He's fallen off a cliff since.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

 

his job is to pitch well, and he's not doing it. you're not making any sense.

 

i thought marquis looked reasonably good tonight. he got unlucky with a few and glavine has gotten incredibly lucky with more than a few.

[E.J.]

Haha Kendall. Has he made a good throw yet?

[Alfonso Soriano]

KENDALL YOU SUCK

[kente777]

KENDALL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!