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who?

 

One of the guys that led us to within 5 outs of the World series and always acted with class.

 

Oh ok thanks for the clarification, now I can go to bed fulfilled.

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who?

 

One of the guys that led us to within 5 outs of the World series and always acted with class.

 

Oh ok thanks for the clarification, now I can go to bed fulfilled.

 

Anything I can do to help.

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I will only report what I heard but here it is.

 

On Sports Central sometime last week (I'm not sure when) I thought I heard David Kaplan (WGN Radio sports guy and huge Cubs fan) answer a question about when to expect Prior back with something like "Because of his contract status, Mark has thrown his last pitch for the Cubs." I don't know what he meant or if I heard it right but that was the gist.

 

*Free with this report is

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I will only report what I heard but here it is.

 

On Sports Central sometime last week (I'm not sure when) I thought I heard David Kaplan (WGN Radio sports guy and huge Cubs fan) answer a question about when to expect Prior back with something like "Because of his contract status, Mark has thrown his last pitch for the Cubs." I don't know what he meant or if I heard it right but that was the gist.

 

*Free with this report is

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/729/43823ix2.jpg

 

That seems unlikely since the Cubs have control of him through next year. Unless he is done for 2+ years or Kaplan thought he was going to be traded, there's no reason to say he has thrown his last pitch as a Cub.

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I will only report what I heard but here it is.

 

On Sports Central sometime last week (I'm not sure when) I thought I heard David Kaplan (WGN Radio sports guy and huge Cubs fan) answer a question about when to expect Prior back with something like "Because of his contract status, Mark has thrown his last pitch for the Cubs." I don't know what he meant or if I heard it right but that was the gist.

 

*Free with this report is

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/729/43823ix2.jpg

 

That seems unlikely since the Cubs have control of him through next year. Unless he is done for 2+ years or Kaplan thought he was going to be traded, there's no reason to say he has thrown his last pitch as a Cub.

 

There is a small possibility that the Cubs won't want to keep him next year. Prior will be 3 million against the cap, and if the Cubs don't like how his progress is going during the winter they can decide that they'd rather spend the 3 million somewhere else. I'd be a little surprised if they did that, but it is reasonable.

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The Cubs would be nuts if they let him go now. If the problem in his shoulder is finally fixed there's a good chance he can come back be a very good pitcher.

 

yes, I'm drinking the kool-aid

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As has been said previously, if you're going to take fliers on Williamson, Dempster and Miller, then you sure as hell better keep a guy like Mark Prior around in hopes that he can return from his arm troubles. I wouldn't give him $10M next year, but if the price is reasonable - and I have no idea how it will be determined - then absolutely take the chance.
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As has been said previously, if you're going to take fliers on Williamson, Dempster and Miller, then you sure as hell better keep a guy like Mark Prior around in hopes that he can return from his arm troubles. I wouldn't give him $10M next year, but if the price is reasonable - and I have no idea how it will be determined - then absolutely take the chance.

 

I'm pretty sure he's still arby eligible, so they'll renegotiate his contract to something not much different than his current one. He won't be getting a raise, seeing as he won't have pitched for a year.

 

They'd be insane not to keep him around one more year to see if, now that the problem has finally been identified, he can regain any of his old form. I don't think he is going to be any good next year coming off major surgery, but if he can stay healthy in 2008, maybe he'll be able to regain a bit of his former glory, and they should be able to extend him for a reasonable amount of money.

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There is a small possibility that the Cubs won't want to keep him next year. Prior will be 3 million against the cap.....
Um, there isn't a cap in baseball.
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There is a small possibility that the Cubs won't want to keep him next year. Prior will be 3 million against the cap.....
Um, there isn't a cap in baseball.

 

Some people have been using the word cap to refer to a payroll limit set by ownership for some time now. It isn't technically correct, but I think we all know what is meant by now, no?

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There is a small possibility that the Cubs won't want to keep him next year. Prior will be 3 million against the cap.....
Um, there isn't a cap in baseball.

 

Some people have been using the word cap to refer to a payroll limit set by ownership for some time now. It isn't technically correct, but I think we all know what is meant by now, no?

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. It's easier to write cap to refer to the payroll limit than any other word or phrase-sorry for the confusion.

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The Cubs would be nuts if they let him go now. If the problem in his shoulder is finally fixed there's a good chance he can come back be a very good pitcher.

 

yes, I'm drinking the kool-aid

 

Those are my thoughts as well. The fact that they finally found something wrong and he had surgery makes me feel a little bit better about it. Who knows how affective he'll be though.

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The Cubs would be nuts if they let him go now. If the problem in his shoulder is finally fixed there's a good chance he can come back be a very good pitcher.

 

yes, I'm drinking the kool-aid

 

Those are my thoughts as well. The fact that they finally found something wrong and he had surgery makes me feel a little bit better about it. Who knows how affective he'll be though.

 

I doubt that he'll be at all effective during his first year back from major surgery. On the plus side, that would make him easy to re-sign for his comeback.

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The Cubs would be nuts if they let him go now. If the problem in his shoulder is finally fixed there's a good chance he can come back be a very good pitcher.

 

yes, I'm drinking the kool-aid

 

Those are my thoughts as well. The fact that they finally found something wrong and he had surgery makes me feel a little bit better about it. Who knows how affective he'll be though.

 

I doubt that he'll be at all effective during his first year back from major surgery. On the plus side, that would make him easy to re-sign for his comeback.

 

Then the only question becomes-is he willing to re-sign with the Cubs for 2009? There has been some rumored bad blood between Prior and management, and it's hard to tell if he would jump ship at that point after the Cubs finished rehabbing him and go to another team.

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I will only report what I heard but here it is.

 

On Sports Central sometime last week (I'm not sure when) I thought I heard David Kaplan (WGN Radio sports guy and huge Cubs fan) answer a question about when to expect Prior back with something like "Because of his contract status, Mark has thrown his last pitch for the Cubs." I don't know what he meant or if I heard it right but that was the gist.

 

*Free with this report is

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/729/43823ix2.jpg

 

That seems unlikely since the Cubs have control of him through next year. Unless he is done for 2+ years or Kaplan thought he was going to be traded, there's no reason to say he has thrown his last pitch as a Cub.

 

Kap is right. Because Prior is making $3.6 million this year, the least the Cubs can offer him in arbitration next year is $2.8 million. And the best case doesn't have him pitching rehab until next June.

 

If the Cubs wanted to keep him, they wouldn't have let him accrue service time this year and leveraged that. By reinstating him to the major league roster's DL, they gave up that possibility. They only control him through '08 now. Prior will be non-tendered this winter and will sign a two-year "sign and hope" with someone else. I just hope it isn't the Cardinals.

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I will only report what I heard but here it is.

 

On Sports Central sometime last week (I'm not sure when) I thought I heard David Kaplan (WGN Radio sports guy and huge Cubs fan) answer a question about when to expect Prior back with something like "Because of his contract status, Mark has thrown his last pitch for the Cubs." I don't know what he meant or if I heard it right but that was the gist.

 

*Free with this report is

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/729/43823ix2.jpg

 

That seems unlikely since the Cubs have control of him through next year. Unless he is done for 2+ years or Kaplan thought he was going to be traded, there's no reason to say he has thrown his last pitch as a Cub.

 

Kap is right. Because Prior is making $3.6 million this year, the least the Cubs can offer him in arbitration next year is $2.8 million. And the best case doesn't have him pitching rehab until next June.

 

If the Cubs wanted to keep him, they wouldn't have let him accrue service time this year and leveraged that. By reinstating him to the major league roster's DL, they gave up that possibility. They only control him through '08 now. Prior will be non-tendered this winter and will sign a two-year "sign and hope" with someone else. I just hope it isn't the Cardinals.

 

Let me count the ways this is wrong.

 

1) His contract is small compared to overall payroll. They have shown willingness to take fliers on injured pitchers in the past.

 

2) Do you have any source for your "best case scenario"? Or are you just using your medical expertise to predict how long he'll be out?

 

3) They had no choice but to let him accrue service time, if they had refused he would have won the grievance case easily, since he was clearly injured before being placed on a minor league roster.

 

4) Again, any source on Prior being non-tendered more reliable than your cristal ball? If the Cubs wanted to release Prior, why not do when it becmae clear he was out for the year, rather than putting him on the DL? Do you really believe that they would give him a year to sit on the DL and cut him as soon as he is ready to pitch? If they were really planning to get rid of him, why wouldn't they have done it at the beginning of the year?

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