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Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong.

 

actually, a lot of people said Zambrano has been a good pitcher for years now, and was just going through a slump earlier in the year. And lo and behold, he's actually pitching well now! Who could've seen that coming?

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i'm not sure why you guys are surprised... the cubs haven't given hill any run support since april. When he starts, the Cubs will hardly score at all. You should be expecting this by now, regardless of who the opposing pitcher is.

 

I know you're trying to defend Rich, but he's been pretty mediocre for some time now.

 

true, 10th best WHIP among major league starters is just not getting it done

 

He had a great April which is bringing down his numbers.

 

April: 1.77 ERA, 0.87 WHIP

May: 4.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP

June: 4.32 ERA, 1.17 WHIP

 

But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all.

 

This logic can extend to Zambrano as well.

 

Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong.

 

you do have a good point there

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i'm not sure why you guys are surprised... the cubs haven't given hill any run support since april. When he starts, the Cubs will hardly score at all. You should be expecting this by now, regardless of who the opposing pitcher is.

 

I know you're trying to defend Rich, but he's been pretty mediocre for some time now.

 

true, 10th best WHIP among major league starters is just not getting it done

 

He had a great April which is bringing down his numbers.

 

April: 1.77 ERA, 0.87 WHIP

May: 4.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP

June: 4.32 ERA, 1.17 WHIP

 

But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all.

 

This logic can extend to Zambrano as well.

 

Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong.

 

My point is you have to look at the season as a whole. Rich has been inconsistent but overall he's been above average (more so than Z overall although he's gotten much better of late).

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But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all.

 

actually, 4.32 ERA is above average and 1.17 WHIP is well above average for NL pitchers in the month of June, but I guess I can't dispute the May portion of your poorly-constructed argument.

 

Wow you got me there. 4.32 is just dominating the league average of 4.19

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i'm not sure why you guys are surprised... the cubs haven't given hill any run support since april. When he starts, the Cubs will hardly score at all. You should be expecting this by now, regardless of who the opposing pitcher is.

 

I know you're trying to defend Rich, but he's been pretty mediocre for some time now.

 

true, 10th best WHIP among major league starters is just not getting it done

 

He had a great April which is bringing down his numbers.

 

April: 1.77 ERA, 0.87 WHIP

May: 4.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP

June: 4.32 ERA, 1.17 WHIP

 

But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all.

 

This logic can extend to Zambrano as well.

 

Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong.

 

My point is you have to look at the season as a whole. Rich has been inconsistent but overall he's been above average (more so than Z overall although he's gotten much better of late).

 

I think its important that Z struggled early, and obviously made the adjustments a ML pitcher needs to make. Where as Hill was dominant early, and has yet to make the proper adjustments to get back to the dominance.

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My point is you have to look at the season as a whole. Rich has been inconsistent but overall he's been above average (more so than Z overall although he's gotten much better of late).

 

That's what most people are doing. Z sucked the first two months, then declared it a new season and has been great. Overall, he's been an average pitcher.

 

Rich Hill has had an amazing April but has had a mediocre May and June. He's been an above average pitcher on the whole this year.

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Oh well. There was no way we were going to sweep them. The offense can crap the bed in this game and hopefully come to the ballpark ready to hit tomorrow.

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