Is Fontenot the real deal?

[kente777]

I love that Theriot and Fontenot are starting with Derosa as the super-sub.

 

Do you guys think Fontenot is the real thing? What are his minor league stats?

 

Ken

[killthegoat06]

Fontenot and Derosa are starting with Theriot as the super-sub, which is better. Theriot is starting today because Derosa is at 3rd to give aram a day off.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

In 2006, he had a 296/375/450/825 line at AAA and .272/377/430/807 line at AAA in 2005. He's really only had one bad season in the minors, so yes I think he can be a very productive secondbaseman.

[Drew Doughty]

he has good minor league stats, but no, this is not the real fontenot and that should be obvious.

 

I would expect something between a 700 and 750 OPS, perhaps a little higher. He had an 825 OPS in Iowa last year and a 930 OPS this year.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I like Fontenot more than Theriot

[killthegoat06]

I like Fontenot more than Theriot

 

Me too.

[Sammy Sofa]

I like Fontenot more than Theriot

 

Me too.

 

Ditto. He's obviously playing way above his head, but he's likely a better shot at being an everyday player than Theriot.

[UMFan83]

Who knows, all I know is there was a similar threat about Theriot posted 2 months ago

[Abe Frohman]

Fontenot has way more pop than Theriot, but I love the way both of them play. Theriot is probably better defensively and on the bases.

[inari]

People have been saying Fontenot needs an opportunity for a couple of years now. He's not gonna be any kind of super star, but he can be a regular on a good team.

[Marco4]

He might be.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I think Fontenot could be a very solid second baseman, maybe a Todd Walker type.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

He's bona fide, what are you?

[rawaction]

Fontenot can really hit. He can't hit as well as he has so far, consistently, but he's a guy that could conceivably hit .300 with 15 HRs.

 

I see the top of his production in the .300/.370/.470 range.

 

While most likely being a guy that will put up .280/.340/.440. The question with him has always been his ability to field his position, wherever that may be.

[Drew Doughty]

He's bona fide, what are you?

 

I'm the damn paterfamilias!

[TheDude]

He's bona fide, what are you?

 

I'm the damn paterfamilias!

 

Very nicely done.

[TruffleShuffle]

PECOTA for Fontenot:

 

2007: 260/336/400 (736)

2008: 271/351/425 (776)

2009: 267/342/416 (758)

2010: 264/346/406 (752)

2011: 266/342/410 (752)

 

 

Sounds about right. For a utility player in the middle infield, those are very solid numbers, and if you can get that at a cheap price, be happy about it. I've been on the Fontenot bandwagon for a while, and didn't know why teams wouldn't give him a shot at a utility role on their club, especially considering that they're willing to pay considerably more for retreads who can't hit for beans.

 

Obviously he will not continue to hit near a 1.000 OPS, but I don't think .800 is out of the question. He's a good hitter with few holes in his swing, and it's a nice compact stroke, the type that isn't vulnerable to more advanced pitching.

[YearofDaCubs]

PECOTA for Fontenot:

 

2007: 260/336/400 (736)

2008: 271/351/425 (776)

2009: 267/342/416 (758)

2010: 264/346/406 (752)

2011: 266/342/410 (752)

 

 

Sounds about right. For a utility player in the middle infield, those are very solid numbers, and if you can get that at a cheap price, be happy about it. I've been on the Fontenot bandwagon for a while, and didn't know why teams wouldn't give him a shot at a utility role on their club, especially considering that they're willing to pay considerably more for retreads who can't hit for beans.

 

Obviously he will not continue to hit near a 1.000 OPS, but I don't think .800 is out of the question. He's a good hitter with few holes in his swing, and it's a nice compact stroke, the type that isn't vulnerable to more advanced pitching.

Solid numbers for a 2B. Do you have the pecota numbers for Theriot by any chance?

[The Voice of Reason]

As of today after 20 games 427/.686/1113

 

Both him and Petrick should start working on their HOF acceptance speeches. They're locks.

Edited June 27, 2007 by The Voice of Reason

[TruffleShuffle]

Solid numbers for a 2B. Do you have the pecota numbers for Theriot by any chance?

 

Not as nice. Generally around a 275/330/360 line, OPS around 690-700. That's about what I'd expect... a little better than he's done this year, but nowhere close to 2006.

[Post Count Padder]

Fontenot has way more pop than Theriot, but I love the way both of them play. Theriot is probably better defensively and on the bases.

Theriot is beter on the basepaths, but I've heard that Fontenot is the superior feilder.

[snoodmonger]

Fontenot can really hit. He can't hit as well as he has so far, consistently, but he's a guy that could conceivably hit .300 with 15 HRs.

 

I see the top of his production in the .300/.370/.470 range.

 

While most likely being a guy that will put up .280/.340/.440. The question with him has always been his ability to field his position, wherever that may be.

 

I don't get to actually watch many games right now, so I haven't seen him play. What are his defensive shortcomings? I assume he has the arm for 2b, as all that requires is he physically have an arm. So is it range? Does he boot the ball a lot?

[YearofDaCubs]

Solid numbers for a 2B. Do you have the pecota numbers for Theriot by any chance?

 

Not as nice. Generally around a 275/330/360 line, OPS around 690-700. That's about what I'd expect... a little better than he's done this year, but nowhere close to 2006.

Still an improvement over Izturis though. Thanks for the info.

[TruffleShuffle]

I find this curious:

 

Nobody thinks he`s anything more than adequate afield, and scouts deride his long, slow, overly segmented hitting stroke.

 

The fielding thing has been repeated often, but I haven't seen anything in his swing that is close to being "long, slow, overly segmented." His swing looks very compact to me, and during his time with Iowa, his K-rate declined from where it was during his years in the Baltimore system. This could be another Von Joshua success story of shortening a guy's swing and closing off some of the holes that could make it vulnerable to big league pitching.

[Backtobanks]

Fontenot can really hit. He can't hit as well as he has so far, consistently, but he's a guy that could conceivably hit .300 with 15 HRs.

I see the top of his production in the .300/.370/.470 range.

 

While most likely being a guy that will put up .280/.340/.440. The question with him has always been his ability to field his position, wherever that may be.

 

Those aren't starter numbers, those are All Star numbers for a 2b.