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On another note, anyone wanna define the expression "barn burner" for me? I've always been clueless as to it's meaning.

 

Does anyone know the origin of the phrase barnburner for referring to a very close sporting event?

Lewis Joplin II Barn burner/the Barnburners - "According to an old story, there was once a Dutchman who was so bothered by the rats in his barn that he burned down the barn to get rid of them. Thus a 'barn burner' became one who destroyed all in order to get rid of a nuisance. In the 1840s and 1850s there was a faction of the Democratic party in New York State opposed to the extension of slavery in the territories, and the name Barnburners was given them by their opponents. Most of the Barnburners later became Free-Soilers." From "Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins" by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988).

 

A second source defines "barnburners" as "persons demonstrating uncompromising determination, even at risk of total loss; practitioners of the art of the impossible. The word originally designated the antislavery wing of the Democratic party in New York State in the 1840s led by Martin Van Buren and his son, John. The name was devised by the 'Hunkers,' a Democratic opposition faction, to ridicule Van Buren's radical approach 'in the manner of the Dutch farmer who burned his barn to destroy rats...'" From "Safire's New Political Dictionary" by William Safire (Random House, New York, 1993).

 

In reference to an exciting event, I would imagine "barnburner" did originate with the crowd gathering when somebody's barn burns:

 

BARNBURNER - "Barnburners were members of a faction of the Democratic Party in New York State from about 1830-50, so-called because they were so zealous for reform in the party that they would burn the barn (the Democratic Party) to get ride of the (pro-slavery) rats... 'Barnburner' is used by wildcat oil men for a big well, a gusher, a strike that lights up the sky..." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).

 

"Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 1, A-G" by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1994, has the first meaning: 1. Pol. a radical member of the Democratic party of New York State...1841, 1845, and, 2. an exciting or excellent thing, person, or time; a humdinger; (specifically) a strong hand in the game of bridge.""

 

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Nothing better than having Ohman only need 1 pitch to get out of the inning. :D

 

Come on offense. More runs please. This game is getting too close.

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Extras in Milwaukee. Good news is that the Brewers have already used up Turnbow and Cordero.

 

Bad news is the Astros suck.

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Disappointing that he gave up fly balls and HRs given his plus sinker.

 

Welcome to the bigs. :D

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Maybe Petrik isn't quite ready for the Hall of Fame yet.

 

wise words from....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...the voice of reason

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The rockies just don't give up man. I've never seen a team score so many late inning runs.

 

The middle of their lineup is an amazing combination of power, from both sides of the plate.

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Disappointing that he gave up fly balls and HRs given his plus sinker.

 

Welcome to the bigs. :D

 

still, nice to see that he has a big arm and was (at least for the first inning) pounding the strike zone

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Disappointing that he gave up fly balls and HRs given his plus sinker.

 

Welcome to the bigs. :D

It looked like he was mostly using a four-seamer and was having trouble throwing the sinker for strikes.

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Who closes today?

 

Apparently not Ohman. Rockies have 7-8-9 coming up in the 9th, 9 spot likely a PH. A nice, easy inning would be a pleasant surprise.

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