Do the Cubs have a chance?

[Sarcastic]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

[Soul]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

 

Just playing .500 will probably be enough. They'd likely need to play under .500 for us to even sniff a chance. I gonna assume you know that's not happening.

[Ender]

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10?

 

They did somewhat. They had a stretch on their schedule including games @NYM, @PHI, @SDP, @LAD, @DET, @Min, vs Min, vs Cubs. Brewers are a decent team but they still aren't good enough to beat good teams on the road on a regular basis.

 

The thing that is going to make it really hard for others to catch up is that the Brewers have an extremely easy second half schedule, its going to be hard for the Brewers to go on another really bad streak barring injuries.

[illiniguy]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

 

Just playing .500 will probably be enough. They'd likely need to play under .500 for us to even sniff a chance. I gonna assume you know that's not happening.

Well I don't know how you would assume a team, which hasn't been over .500 in a season in over a decade, would all of the sudden be a lock to play that way. Could they? Yes, they can and might. But, it is pretty odd just to assume it.

[bhogg]

If the roles were reversed and the cubs had a 6.5 game lead, I promise that none of you would be purchasing play off tickets.

 

There's still a lot of baseball to be played. The only guarantee is the Reds will not win the division.

[Sarcastic]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

 

Just playing .500 will probably be enough. They'd likely need to play under .500 for us to even sniff a chance. I gonna assume you know that's not happening.

 

You make two false assumptions here:

 

1. The Cubs have need the Brewers to play .500 ball to have any chance at the division. This isn't completely true. If the Brewers are slightly over .500 the rest of the way (41-40), the Cubs would need to go 48-34 (.585 ball) to tie them. They would ned to play well, but it isn't out of the question for the Cubs to play that well. In order to secure the division, the Brewers would need to play at something closer to their current pace. This leads to the second assumption:

 

2. The Brewers are guaranteed to play at least .500 ball for the rest of the season. THhis is absolutely untrue. Baseball is a game of chance, and we have seen the Brewers go stone cold for an entire month this season already. It seems likely at this point that they will continue to play well, but it is entirely possible that they struggle towards the end of the season and play .500 ball, or even somewhat worse.

 

This is mind, the Cubs still have a chance at the division.

[Soul]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

 

Just playing .500 will probably be enough. They'd likely need to play under .500 for us to even sniff a chance. I gonna assume you know that's not happening.

 

You make two false assumptions here:

 

1. The Cubs have need the Brewers to play .500 ball to have any chance at the division. This isn't completely true. If the Brewers are slightly over .500 the rest of the way (41-40), the Cubs would need to go 48-34 (.585 ball) to tie them. They would ned to play well, but it isn't out of the question for the Cubs to play that well. In order to secure the division, the Brewers would need to play at something closer to their current pace. This leads to the second assumption:

 

2. The Brewers are guaranteed to play at least .500 ball for the rest of the season. THhis is absolutely untrue. Baseball is a game of chance, and we have seen the Brewers go stone cold for an entire month this season already. It seems likely at this point that they will continue to play well, but it is entirely possible that they struggle towards the end of the season and play .500 ball, or even somewhat worse.

 

This is mind, the Cubs still have a chance at the division.

 

Of course I'm making assumptions. I don't think assuming one of the top teams in baseball can continue at least at a .500 clip, or assuming the Cubs, who have struggled in the first half, will fall short of playing 14 games over in the 2nd half, are terribly bad ones.

 

I'd love to see it happen. I'm just trying to be realistic here.

[Sarcastic]

The point is that it isn't unrealistic for the Cubs to win the division. It isn't likely, but there is a solid chance it could happen. You assumed things that were likely, but not inevitable.

[NCCubFan]

The brewers are a very young team and they historically have the tendancy to fade towards the end of the summer. Even if not, the cubs are right at .500 so the rest of the season is there for the taking. Just play good baseball, win games and be competitive is all that I ask.

 

Just win series. If the Cubs win the majority of three game sets the rest of the way they'll be in good shape.

 

They do have to play better at Wrigley Field, though.

 

Hahaha. I'm guessing you forgot to go back and edit this post, right?

 

Brewers play what? 5 more series all year against opponents over .500?

 

The Cubs would need to go on a hellish winning streak, and the Brewers one hell of a losing streak, for us to catch them. Just winning 2/3 in a majority of series? That boat, as they say, sailed long ago.

 

Do the Brewers look poised to start dropping 10/11 or 12/15 any time soon? Best hitting in the division, and it's not close? Pitching right up there with us in the Central -- nobody else in the same zip code? Easy schedule the rest of the way?

 

I don't think so.

 

Did they look poised for a long losing streak when they were 24-10? Who knows how the Brewers will play for the rest of the season? My bet would be on over .500, but it is possible that they will be mediocre or worse the rset of the way.

 

Just playing .500 will probably be enough. They'd likely need to play under .500 for us to even sniff a chance. I gonna assume you know that's not happening.

I'm going to assume he DOESN'T know that's not happening, because NOBODY, yourself included, knows what's going to happen.

[Fro]

It really feels like the pieces are falling into place... imho, we're a trade away.

 

We are only 6.5 back in the division (really only 6 in the L column) and 5 back in the WC.

[ctcf]

It really feels like the pieces are falling into place... imho, we're a trade away.

 

We are only 6.5 back in the division (really only 6 in the L column) and 5 back in the WC.

 

The problem being can a trade even happen with the current situation?

[UK1679666180]

It really feels like the pieces are falling into place... imho, we're a trade away.

 

We are only 6.5 back in the division (really only 6 in the L column) and 5 back in the WC.

 

The problem being can a trade even happen with the current situation?

 

You've found the problem.... and there's no way to improve this team without taking on additional salary or getting some player that wasn't really wanted and he gets hot after being traded. (Assuming no one else surprises us from the minors)

[Jazz]

It really feels like the pieces are falling into place... imho, we're a trade away.

 

We are only 6.5 back in the division (really only 6 in the L column) and 5 back in the WC.

 

The problem being can a trade even happen with the current situation?

 

You've found the problem.... and there's no way to improve this team without taking on additional salary or getting some player that wasn't really wanted and he gets hot after being traded. (Assuming no one else surprises us from the minors)

 

well murton could come up, and maybe get it back together. If (hopefully when) we get rid of Izturis and Jones, we can bring up Cedeno since hes been tearing up AAA pitching. Soto might be able to contribute, and we might even see EPatt in september.

[Sarcastic]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

[Bote McBoteface]

Our chances will be decided at the end of August when we face the brewers in a 3 game set. If we pass that test and are still in the race, it will come down to, most likely, the last games of the season. If we manage to narrow the gap, I like our more experienced team. If we put pressure on the young Brewers they just may fold.

[UK1679666180]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

 

I doubt Jones would still be on the Cubs if they had payroll flexibility.

 

They can prob. add pieces here and there, but any significant move would likely have to go thru a winding road of approvals.

[Sarcastic]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

 

I doubt Jones would still be on the Cubs if they had payroll flexibility.

 

They can prob. add pieces here and there, but any significant move would likely have to go thru a winding road of approvals.

 

Miles specifically said that Jones was not traded because Hendry decided it wasn't worth it to pay his whole salary, not because of a salary cap. But if you'd rather trust a hunch than a beat reporter, go ahead.

[UK1679666180]

No, I believe Levine also mentioned it as well but I won't get into some smartass type of posting match w/you.

 

If they prove me wrong so be it, I think Hendry exercised all trade outlets with Jones and the best he could do would be eating the majority of Jones' contract for a minor leaguer. Given the uncertain nature of the Cubs' ownership and the amount remaining on his deal, it was in the Cubs financial interest to not approve the deal. I doubt that trade rumor gains as much steam w/out both sides agreeing and then having it rejected by a 3rd party compared to Hendry getting cold feet and backing out at the last minute.

[Bruno7481]

No, I believe Levine also mentioned it as well but I won't get into some smartass type of posting match w/you.

 

 

Ahhhh...your no fun.

 

:x

[Sarcastic]

Levine has little credibility. It wouldn't surprise me if he was simply playing up conjecture as fact.

[ctcf]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

 

I hadn't seen that. Hopefully this is the case but I also recall hearing there was no way the Cubs could add someone like Griffey so I suppose we'll habe to wait and see.

[Sarcastic]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

 

I hadn't seen that. Hopefully this is the case but I also recall hearing there was no way the Cubs could add someone like Griffey so I suppose we'll habe to wait and see.

 

I'm not optimistic that the Cubs will make a trade for any elite players, but that would be more of our ability to pay the cost in players in the trade, rather than our ability to pay for the player.

[Alfonso Soriano]

I'm not sure why everyone has decided that the Cubs are unable to take on any salary. Bruce Miles has said that he believes that the Cubs are not working within a hard and fast payroll space. I believe the reliable beat reporter more than a few national reporters reporting their guesses as fact.

 

I hadn't seen that. Hopefully this is the case but I also recall hearing there was no way the Cubs could add someone like Griffey so I suppose we'll habe to wait and see.

 

I'm not optimistic that the Cubs will make a trade for any elite players, but that would be more of our ability to pay the cost in players in the trade, rather than our ability to pay for the player.

I sure hope you aren't being sarcastic

[CubinNY]

I've been away for a week and was going to start a new thread, but I don't like to unless I see nothing that applies.

 

Anyway, these two series coming up to the ASB are about as must win as it gets for the Cubs. They are playing two pretty bad teams and must take at least 2 out three in each to be considered "for real". Anything less and it just a 25 cent peep show.

 

The Cubs have climbed out of a big hole. I hope they can stay out.

[Sarcastic]

Every series is a big series for one reason or another. Obviously we'd like them to win these games, but we'd like them to win every game.