Olney: MacPhail to become COO of Orioles, Girardi Mgr?

[3Dog]

Buster Olney on Mike & Mike right now, saying Andy MacPhail has agreed in principle to become the Chief Operating Officer of the Baltimore Orioles. Also speculated that Joe Girardi might come aboard as the manager, pending Sam Perlozzo's fate. Edited June 18, 2007 by 3Dog

[Derwood]

if true, there go the rumors that he's being groomed as the successor to Selig

[E.J.]

I feel sorry for the Orioles. It just keeps getting worse for them.

[daske17]

Yikes. MacPhail keeps getting by based on his heritage and not his organizational ability.

 

I don't see Girardi taking the Orioles job mid-season. He'll probably wait until the off-season to see what the Yankees do with Torre before moving onto another team.

[stuy119]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

[RynoRules]

I feel sorry for the Orioles. It just keeps getting worse for them.

 

That franchise has been down for what, ten years now? What track record does MacPhail that makes them think he can get them back in the race with Yanks and Sox? For a dozen years he had a high payroll team that could have spent more but he apparently refused to approve it. Now he has to keep up with two 200 million dollar payrolls, one on the rise (Jays), and a young team with talent whose arrow is pointing up (Rays).

 

Best of luck, Andy.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

He was Cubs GM for about a year and a half.

[RedIvyCub]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

[Soriano12]

LOL...good ole...Mc...FAIL!

[stuy119]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

Wow, sorry. Maybe if you try you can be a jackass about it next time.

 

I meant President, not GM.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

[Soriano12]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

You definetly work for the Tribune company.

[HoopsCubs]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I like that thinking!

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I'm sure there are a few knuckleheads in our system that MacPhail is in love with.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I'm sure there are a few knuckleheads in our system that MacPhail is in love with.

 

Dopirak, Harvey, and Luke Hagerty for Tejada? :lol:

[Schwarber Fan]

Perlozzo fired

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Perlozzo fired

 

I wonder if Mazzone will want to go back to Atlanta now? :-k

[Tedward]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I'm sure there are a few knuckleheads in our system that MacPhail is in love with.

 

Dopirak, Harvey, and Luke Hagerty for Tejada? :lol:

 

Doesn't the OPS drop (100 pts) YTD vs previous two years norms and the fact that he's owed $31MM over the next two season's bother anyone?

 

I'm just not sure the cost that it would take to acquire him at this stage of his career would be a wise move to make.

[jersey cubs fan]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I'm sure there are a few knuckleheads in our system that MacPhail is in love with.

 

Dopirak, Harvey, and Luke Hagerty for Tejada? :lol:

 

Doesn't the OPS drop (100 pts) YTD vs previous two years norms and the fact that he's owed $31MM over the next two season's bother anyone?

 

I'm just not sure the cost that it would take to acquire him at this stage of his career would be a wise move to make.

 

Not when that OPS is 200+ points higher than our current SS rotation sits at.

[RedIvyCub]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

Wow, sorry. Maybe if you try you can be a jackass about it next time.

 

I meant President, not GM.

 

EH? I made a comment.

Edited June 18, 2007 by RedIvyCub

[RedIvyCub]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

You definetly work for the Tribune company.

 

Why, because I told him to get his facts straight? Those are the facts. MacPhail was Cubs GM from July 2000 to July 2002...TWO years. I just happen to pay more attention to the business side of the game because it fascinates me.

 

That doesn't mean that I work for Tribune Company.

 

I think the responses to my post shows why I don't have a lot of posts for the number of years that I have been a member of this community.

[jersey cubs fan]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

You definetly work for the Tribune company.

 

Why, because I told him to get his facts straight? Those are the facts. MacPhail was Cubs GM from July 2000 to July 2002...TWO years. I just happen to pay more attention to the business side of the game because it fascinates me.

 

That doesn't mean that I work for Tribune Company.

 

I think the responses to my post shows why I don't have a lot of posts for the number of years that I have been a member of this community.

 

And why is that exactly?

[Soriano12]

I was just reading the story on ESPN, and in the third paragraph it mentions that "MacPhail won two World Series championships with the Twins in 1987 and 1991."

 

I find it curious that it makes no mention of his failures as Cubs GM for an approximate 10 year period of time.

 

Maybe because he was only the GM for two years of his tenure here? Get your facts straight.

 

You definetly work for the Tribune company.

 

Why, because I told him to get his facts straight? Those are the facts. MacPhail was Cubs GM from July 2000 to July 2002...TWO years. I just happen to pay more attention to the business side of the game because it fascinates me.

 

That doesn't mean that I work for Tribune Company.

 

I think the responses to my post shows why I don't have a lot of posts for the number of years that I have been a member of this community.

I just seems that everytime there is bashing of old Andy around here, you show up. Regardless of how much time he served as GM, Andy Failure was a disgrace to this organization, whether as President or GM, and I find it hillarious that another organization would give him anything better than a mop job.

[Amazing_Grace]

Call him up, Jim. Ask for Tejada!!!

 

I'm sure there are a few knuckleheads in our system that MacPhail is in love with.

 

Dopirak, Harvey, and Luke Hagerty for Tejada? :lol:

 

Doesn't the OPS drop (100 pts) YTD vs previous two years norms and the fact that he's owed $31MM over the next two season's bother anyone?

 

I'm just not sure the cost that it would take to acquire him at this stage of his career would be a wise move to make.

 

It's worth it as long as he plays SS. He was a bargain playing the way he has the past 2 seasons. He's still hitting .302 with a .355 OBP. His major drop has been in SLG (over 80 points), and his OPS is still over .750. There just aren't a lot of shortstops that are good or even mediocre hitters.

 

That said, it would take a lot to get Tejada. I think you'd have to get the O's to take one of Marquis/Lilly to make the salarys work for 08 and 09. What else it would take to get him, I don't know? I imagine they will want a lot, maybe more than the Cubs have to give. If they'd take a deal of Murton, Guzman, and Lilly or Marquis, I'd probably do it.

 

The deal also would preclude the signing of Zambrano, one would think, which raises the possibility of something like Tejada for Zambrano and Izturis. The O's need pitching in the worst way to compete in that division, and probably will have the money to re-up Zambrano. A trade like this would probably only work if the O's could reach an agreement on an extension with Z prior to the trade. The deal would basically be a wash in the payroll department, as Z/Izturis make similar to what Tejada does this year, and Z figures to cost about the same as Tejada in his new deal. The Cubs would end up spending about what they would have spent to resign Z on a per year basis, but have fewer years committed. I would definitely approve of a deal like this.

[daske17]

It's worth it as long as he plays SS. He was a bargain playing the way he has the past 2 seasons. He's still hitting .302 with a .355 OBP. His major drop has been in SLG (over 80 points), and his OPS is still over .750. There just aren't a lot of shortstops that are good or even mediocre hitters.

 

That said, it would take a lot to get Tejada. I think you'd have to get the O's to take one of Marquis/Lilly to make the salarys work for 08 and 09. What else it would take to get him, I don't know? I imagine they will want a lot, maybe more than the Cubs have to give. If they'd take a deal of Murton, Guzman, and Lilly or Marquis, I'd probably do it.

 

The deal also would preclude the signing of Zambrano, one would think, which raises the possibility of something like Tejada for Zambrano and Izturis. The O's need pitching in the worst way to compete in that division, and probably will have the money to re-up Zambrano. A trade like this would probably only work if the O's could reach an agreement on an extension with Z prior to the trade. The deal would basically be a wash in the payroll department, as Z/Izturis make similar to what Tejada does this year, and Z figures to cost about the same as Tejada in his new deal. The Cubs would end up spending about what they would have spent to resign Z on a per year basis, but have fewer years committed. I would definitely approve of a deal like this.

 

First, Baltimore needs to decide on a direction for their organization. The past couple of years, it's been a piecemeal attempt at respectability. They either need to commit to spending (ala the 2007 Cubs) or rebuilding (ala the 2003 Indians).

 

If it's the former, then a Z + Izturis trade for Tejada would be feasible, but not overly beneficial to the Cubs. With the way Z has pitched in his past couple of outings, Tejada's offense won't counteract Z's absence.

 

However, if they commit to rebuilding, I would be willing to part with Marshall + EPatt + another pitching prospect for Tejada.