Mets "Covet" Z

[anabiono]

i am sure a deal for zambrano with the mets would be a nice trade

 

zambrano isn't exactly a lightweight...literally

[TruffleShuffle]

This guy is WAY too similar to CPatt for my taste. No thank you.

 

he actually has some plate discipline. corey didn't.

[Guest]

Would the Mets really be stupid enough to tie up in excess of 30M per year for several years on two starting pitchers? We can see how well Zito has worked out so far.

 

Pretty swimmingly, since Zito is a Giant.

 

Heh. I'm not a big Milledge fan either. If the Cubs can get Pelfrey, though, that's the start of a good deal. I still think there are teams that could give up more in the way of ML talent.

 

I'm not necessarily a Pelfrey fan either - not convinced how the secondary pitches will come along. Looks like their big-time prospects have shown their warts as they got to the big leagues.

 

I'd want Martinez for sure. There are other teams I'd prefer to trade with, though.

[TruffleShuffle]

John Maine would have to be part of any Zambrano deal to the Mets, IMO.

 

How in the world does that make sense?

 

yeah this isn't quite as dumb as a trade idea involving wright or reyes, but it's getting there.

[TruffleShuffle]

i know this is a stupid question, but I'm optomistic. How much would it take to get reyes?

 

 

AWESOME. I was eagerly awaiting this post.

[TruffleShuffle]

i'm starting to get excited about trading Z.

 

to temper your excitement - jim hendry will be the one trading him.

[ctcf]

i'm starting to get excited about trading Z.

 

to temper your excitement - jim hendry will be the one trading him.

 

As much as Hendry does suck, has he ever really sucked with a trade involving major people with the exception of dumping Maddux for Izzy? I mean I definitely think hes a bad gm but he's usually pulled off awesome trades, for example Lee for Choi, the Aramis/Lofton for peanuts, Nomar (at the time at least). I don't see why it would be dumb to think that he could haul in good value for Carlos.

[abuck1220]

i'm starting to get excited about trading Z.

 

to temper your excitement - jim hendry will be the one trading him.

 

As much as Hendry does suck, has he ever really sucked with a trade involving major people with the exception of dumping Maddux for Izzy? I mean I definitely think hes a bad gm but he's usually pulled off awesome trades, for example Lee for Choi, the Aramis/Lofton for peanuts, Nomar (at the time at least). I don't see why it would be dumb to think that he could haul in good value for Carlos.

 

in all those trades he was the dumpee, not the dumper.

[TruffleShuffle]

As much as Hendry does suck, has he ever really sucked with a trade involving major people with the exception of dumping Maddux for Izzy?

 

Juan Pierre

 

 

I don't see why it would be dumb to think that he could haul in good value for Carlos.

 

because he's a bad evaluator of talent

[Schwarber Fan]

Does anyone realize there is a thread in Transactions?

[seanimal]

i'm starting to get excited about trading Z.

 

to temper your excitement - jim hendry will be the one trading him.

 

As much as Hendry does suck, has he ever really sucked with a trade involving major people with the exception of dumping Maddux for Izzy? I mean I definitely think hes a bad gm but he's usually pulled off awesome trades, for example Lee for Choi, the Aramis/Lofton for peanuts, Nomar (at the time at least). I don't see why it would be dumb to think that he could haul in good value for Carlos.

 

With Jim Hendry at the helm, you have to hope for the best but expect the worst. I think Hendry is more inclined to sign him to a long-term deal rather than trade him.

[Amazing_Grace]

Would the Mets really be stupid enough to tie up in excess of 30M per year for several years on two starting pitchers? We can see how well Zito has worked out so far.

 

Pretty swimmingly, since Zito is a Giant.

 

Whoops. That was a major brain fart.

[NewUserName]

I say lets shoot big. We give them Z, Aram and Soriano and they give us Wright and Beltran!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NewUserName]

Would the Mets really be stupid enough to tie up in excess of 30M per year for several years on two starting pitchers? We can see how well Zito has worked out so far.

 

Pretty swimmingly, since Zito is a Giant.

 

Whoops. That was a major brain fart.

 

Until spring training I thought Zito was a Met too. The Giants must have signed him during a busy news time or something.

[mhuber92211]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Yes, because Hendry has such a poor track record with trading players

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Yes, because Hendry has such a poor track record with trading players

 

There's a difference between trading for a player(Lee, Ramirez, Barrett, Pierre(whoops!), Nomar) and trading away a player(Sosa, Patterson, Maddux). Hendry is awful at the latter, and that's what he'd be doing with Z.

[Outshined_One]

Hey, the Mutts managed to screw up one Zambrano deal.

 

We might as well make them two for two. :D

[Jazz]

One thing I'm not looking forward to out of a Mets get Zambrano deal is the number of lame jokes about "getting the right Zambrano this time".

 

And the fact that the Mets will have him for the next 10 years and having to watch him dominate for someone else will be horrible.

[davearm]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Yes, because Hendry has such a poor track record with trading players

 

There's a difference between trading for a player(Lee, Ramirez, Barrett, Pierre(whoops!), Nomar) and trading away a player(Sosa, Patterson, Maddux). Hendry is awful at the latter, and that's what he'd be doing with Z.

Sosa, Patterson, Maddux are terrible examples. None had anywhere near the value that Zambrano has.

 

Both the pro- and anti-Hendry camps should realize that there is no comp for Zambrano on Hendry's trade resume. So using history to speculate about how well he'd do is pretty futile and silly.

[CubColtPacer]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Yes, because Hendry has such a poor track record with trading players

 

There's a difference between trading for a player(Lee, Ramirez, Barrett, Pierre(whoops!), Nomar) and trading away a player(Sosa, Patterson, Maddux). Hendry is awful at the latter, and that's what he'd be doing with Z.

Sosa, Patterson, Maddux are terrible examples. None had anywhere near the value that Zambrano has.

 

Both the pro- and anti-Hendry camps should realize that there is no comp for Zambrano on Hendry's trade resume. So using history to speculate about how well he'd do is pretty futile and silly.

 

I agree, but I doubt Hendry trades Z anyway. He's not likely to give up on the season unless the Cubs are 12 games out or more around the deadline, and I don't think they'll be that far out.

[TruffleShuffle]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Yes, because Hendry has such a poor track record with trading players

 

There's a difference between trading for a player(Lee, Ramirez, Barrett, Pierre(whoops!), Nomar) and trading away a player(Sosa, Patterson, Maddux). Hendry is awful at the latter, and that's what he'd be doing with Z.

Sosa, Patterson, Maddux are terrible examples. None had anywhere near the value that Zambrano has.

 

Both the pro- and anti-Hendry camps should realize that there is no comp for Zambrano on Hendry's trade resume. So using history to speculate about how well he'd do is pretty futile and silly.

 

not really. It's Jim Hendry. As a general manager, he's done a very poor job. Odds are that he'll do a poor job in what he gets in return for Zambrano.

[illiniguy]

Why do people want fernando martinez? He puts up a .700 ops in high A. I think we already have Ryan Harvey in the system and hehas more power. No thanks. If we do this trade we need to go through Atlanta. If it has to be the Mets we need a third party involved.

[TruffleShuffle]

Why do people want fernando martinez? He puts up a .700 ops in high A.

 

in 30 games... great sample size

[illiniguy]

Why do people want fernando martinez? He puts up a .700 ops in high A.

 

in 30 games... great sample size

Ok, he had a few more games than that last year and he was ok. I get that he is young, but he has really no power, can run but not steal bases, plus he is probably a center fielder. We need a right fielder who can mash.

[Jon]

If Hendry feels that the Cubs are out of it by the deadline, he'll still have quite a bit of motivation to trade for major league-ready players as opposed to much higher ceiling prospects. While this season is a big audition for him as the GM, he may very well be able to keep the job at least into next season with a new owner.