Mets "Covet" Z

[E.J.]

NY Post[/url]"] If the Cubs end up putting ace pitcher Carlos Zambrano on the trading block, the Mets will go after him.

 

According to one MLB team executive, the Mets would be "heavily involved" if the Cubs look to trade Zambrano.

 

The 26-year-old righty is set to be a free agent after the season, and the Cubs could potentially deal him prior to the July 31 deadline.

 

Zambrano, who got into a fight with Cubs catcher Michael Barrett last week, is 5-5 with a 5.62 ERA in 12 games this year for the Cubs. Last year he was 16-7 with a 3.41 ERA and 210 strikeouts. He threw over 200 innings in each of the last four years.

[UMFan83]

Yuck, anyone but the Mets (and Cardinals and White Sox)

[YearofDaCubs]

Do they have any top pitching prospects?

[TruffleShuffle]

If I'm talking to the Mets, I'm asking for a position player (Milledge, Fernando Martinez) and a pitcher (Pelphrey, Humber)

[tkenm356]

Do they have any top pitching prospects?

 

Mike Pelphrey?

 

Only people I'll see them trade that is young and worth while is Mike Pelphrey or Lastings Milledge.

 

Reyes for Z, straight up, please. (yeah right)

[TruffleShuffle]

(<----hoping someone mentions reyes or wright and is actually serious)

[tkenm356]

(<----hoping someone mentions reyes or wright and is actually serious)

 

It'd be kind of tough, they'd never let them go in a million years, and neither would I if I were the Mets. They're way too valuable, and if there were ever a definition of "untouchable", I would assume the Mets are putting that label on Reyes and Wright.

 

And that makes me a sad panda :cry:

 

Adding Reyes would solve so many problems it's not even funny

[FloridaCubbie]

So what does Milledge do better than Murton? A quick glance at their stats makes me think they are very simiar players.

[Banedon]

So what does Milledge do better than Murton? A quick glance at their stats makes me think they are very simiar players.

 

Well he's not on the Cubs, and that's always helpful.... :P

[JeffH]

Fernando Martinez and Aaron Heilman for Zambrano.

[TruffleShuffle]

So what does Milledge do better than Murton? A quick glance at their stats makes me think they are very simiar players.

 

Murton's VORP, per PECOTA:

2007: 21.5

2008: 17.3

2009: 16.3

2010: 15.2

2011: 13.4

 

Milledge, same:

2007: 28.4

2008: 28.3

2009: 31.7

2010: 34.8

2011: 30.5

 

 

Probably a big part of the difference is due to the fact that Milledge is projected as a CF, and Murton as a LF. In any case, Milledge would give good insurance in case Pie doesn't pan out. But, he's younger and more projectable than Murton, and has a bigger upside. He's also more likely to develop 20-25 HR power, and is a better defender and is faster. Given that the Mets have the ancient Moises Alou and Shawn Green in the corner outfield, they'd probably be reluctant to give him up, though they're certainly a team that's good enough to win it all this year.

[USSoccer]

Milledge, Pelfrey and Heilman for Z and Howry.

[Tedward]

Fernando Martinez and Aaron Heilman for Zambrano.

 

I think we'll need another arm along with those two. Considering we could get get two high draft choices if he were to leave via FA, the Mets should be able to cough up another high end pitching prospect.

[TruffleShuffle]

Fernando Martinez and Aaron Heilman for Zambrano.

 

Heilman? Don't the Cubs have enough average bullpen arms? I'd much prefer Pelphrey, Humber or Mulvey to Heilman.

[TruffleShuffle]

Milledge, Pelfrey and Heilman for Z and Howry.

 

I couldn't see them giving up Milledge and Pelphrey... AND Heilman. I think a lot more realistic is a combo of either Milledge&Humber or Pelphrey&Martinez. Maybe they could get a lower prospect with a pretty good ceiling like John Holdzkom too.

[JeffH]

If I'm lucky enough to get Martinez, I don't much care about the second guy, but Heilman is good.

 

This year: WHIP=0.95, BAA=.198

 

Last year: WHIP=1.16, BAA=.231

[TruffleShuffle]

If I'm lucky enough to get Martinez, I don't much care about the second guy, but Heilman is good.

 

This year: WHIP=0.95, BAA=.198

 

Last year: WHIP=1.16, BAA=.231

 

Yeah, he's not bad. I'd just prefer a younger prospect with a higher ceiling. Plus, I doubt the Mets would be interested in dealing Heilman if they're in win now mode, since he's one of their more reliable relievers.

[NewUserName]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

[USSoccer]

Milledge, Pelfrey and Heilman for Z and Howry.

 

I couldn't see them giving up Milledge and Pelphrey... AND Heilman. I think a lot more realistic is a combo of either Milledge&Humber or Pelphrey&Martinez. Maybe they could get a lower prospect with a pretty good ceiling like John Holdzkom too.

 

You don't think Z is a guy that Minaya would overvalue? Also, wouldn't he get killed in the NY press by refusing to part with a reliever in order to get a front line rotation guy like Z? Also, it's not like the Mets are enamored with Milledge.

[E.J.]

If the Cubs were to trade Z, I think we would be surprised what a Good GM could get for him. I think we will only be angry with what Hendry will get for him.

 

Hopefully he can get Neifi back. Someone needs to backup Izturis.

[TruffleShuffle]

Milledge, Pelfrey and Heilman for Z and Howry.

 

I couldn't see them giving up Milledge and Pelphrey... AND Heilman. I think a lot more realistic is a combo of either Milledge&Humber or Pelphrey&Martinez. Maybe they could get a lower prospect with a pretty good ceiling like John Holdzkom too.

 

You don't think Z is a guy that Minaya would overvalue? Also, wouldn't he get killed in the NY press by refusing to part with a reliever in order to get a front line rotation guy like Z? Also, it's not like the Mets are enamored with Milledge.

 

put yourself in the other team's shoes... would you do that deal if you were the mets?

[USSoccer]

Milledge, Pelfrey and Heilman for Z and Howry.

 

I couldn't see them giving up Milledge and Pelphrey... AND Heilman. I think a lot more realistic is a combo of either Milledge&Humber or Pelphrey&Martinez. Maybe they could get a lower prospect with a pretty good ceiling like John Holdzkom too.

 

You don't think Z is a guy that Minaya would overvalue? Also, wouldn't he get killed in the NY press by refusing to part with a reliever in order to get a front line rotation guy like Z? Also, it's not like the Mets are enamored with Milledge.

 

put yourself in the other team's shoes... would you do that deal if you were the mets?

 

Well...Glavine will retire eventually. Pedro is a half-season pitcher now. Your corner OF's are old. Your 1B and C are older. Your window to win a Worls Series is probably this year and next. You'd be giving up a corner OF prospect who you don't really like, and a P prospect who may or may not pan out, as well as a reliever for a 26 year old with ace stuff.

 

It's not a no brainer, because it's a steep price, but I'd probably do it if I felt that Z was the kind of guy who could not just make you a NL contender but a threat to whoever the AL puts in the World Series, AND I thought I could resign him.

 

I'd probably try and just give up Pelfrey and Milledge.

[JeffH]

No Martinez, no deal.

[Outshined_One]

Gomez + Martinez plz.

[TruffleShuffle]

Gomez + Martinez plz.

 

let's just get beltran too, then we can have 12 CF on this team. Get Patterson some time at CF too.