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I think one of Hendry's underrated busts was his not winning Rafael Furcal. It led to the Pierre trade, and we could use the guys we gave up now. But also, we didn't get Mr. Furcal and now have a relatively weak middle infield instead of Furcal, who has some patience and plays in Dodger Stadium and had an .814 OPS there last season.

 

The best part was that he wouldn't pony up an extra few million for Furcal, yet had no problem giving over 5 million to Glendon Rush and Neifi Perez...pricless.

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I think one of Hendry's underrated busts was his not winning Rafael Furcal. It led to the Pierre trade, and we could use the guys we gave up now. But also, we didn't get Mr. Furcal and now have a relatively weak middle infield instead of Furcal, who has some patience and plays in Dodger Stadium and had an .814 OPS there last season.

 

The best part was that he wouldn't pony up an extra few million for Furcal, yet had no problem giving over 5 million to Glendon Rush and Neifi Perez...pricless.

 

But you forgot, Neifi saved us.

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I think one of Hendry's underrated busts was his not winning Rafael Furcal. It led to the Pierre trade, and we could use the guys we gave up now. But also, we didn't get Mr. Furcal and now have a relatively weak middle infield instead of Furcal, who has some patience and plays in Dodger Stadium and had an .814 OPS there last season.

 

There was plenty of reason to believe that the Pierre trade would have happened even with Furcal. And while Furcal had a pretty good season by his standards last year, 13M+ is too high of a price tag for him.

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I think one of Hendry's underrated busts was his not winning Rafael Furcal. It led to the Pierre trade, and we could use the guys we gave up now. But also, we didn't get Mr. Furcal and now have a relatively weak middle infield instead of Furcal, who has some patience and plays in Dodger Stadium and had an .814 OPS there last season.

 

There was plenty of reason to believe that the Pierre trade would have happened even with Furcal. And while Furcal had a pretty good season by his standards last year, 13M+ is too high of a price tag for him.

 

 

13M for Furcal AND Lee.

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Which of the following statements do you disagree with or consider unreasonable?

 

It's his team.

 

He had all the money in the world to build it.

 

It's his high priced "pen" (among other things) that he said was "fixed" that's killing this team.

 

There's not a lot of reason for hope in the minor league system he built and oversees.

 

I agree that this is his team and that he has had the needed budget if the situation called for it (i.e. Furcal)

 

His bullpen is NOT high priced but I agree that he has paid specific bullpen arms large contracts. I disagree that he overpaid for them. Considering the market (look at what the Reds paid in players) but Hendry has spent large dollars on typical large dollar positions. Setup men cost as much as some closers and it most cases of large payroll teams, are the biggest source of overspend. From the "fixes" available to Hendry when he signed Howry & Eyre (who both were worth what they got paid last year) who else received big money and were worth it?

 

The minor league system is in better shape then you make it out to be. Hendry has little to do with actual development and scouting. As a GM, you have to delegate many things and Hendry can't be everywhere to see every player. Does he sign off on the big ones? Certainly. But in Hendry's tenure as GM, the "big ones" that went bust went that way mostly from injury and not from lack of talent. You can't predict injury for the most part. Hendry's tenure as scouting director was sucessful, so I doubt that he suddenly forgot how to scout.

 

The main argument I have against the general school of thought on Hendry is the money. Budget has little to do with success. Just because the team has a high payroll shouldn't be a reason for a poor grade on a GM's tenure.

 

Hendry overpaid Eyre based on one career year. If you're going to use last year's performance of Eyre and Howry, you also should use last year's performance of Dempster which was poor. IMO giving Eyre a three year contract was silly.

 

Several scouts and baseball insiders predicted that Kerry Wood's motion would lead to arm trouble but Hendry gave him an expensive long term contract anyway.

 

If you're going to use the Reds for comparison, I'll use the Brewers. The majority of their position players were developed in their farm system and their budget is much less than the Cubs. As for the Cubs, there is Theriot who's starting because of the failure of another high priced Hendry FA who was paid for a career year - DeRosa.

 

Large budgets don't guarantee sucess but they do allow for a margin of error and should increase a GMs odds for success.

 

The failure to get Furcal also led to Hendry giving away Mitre and Nolasco for virtually nothing to get a one year mediocre lead off hitter .

 

Baseball has changed and Hendry hasn't. He's too "old school" and prefers to totally rely on scouts, gamers and "guys who can catch the ball" rather than be open minded about things like OBP, OBS, WHIP, etc.

 

The game has passed Hendry by. It's time for the Cubs to get a new GM.

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Today's idiotic move simply reinforces my belief that everyone outside of Wilken and his specific people need to be fired without hesitation, including Piniella.
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Nice job by Gordo to substaniate my high opinion of the Brewer's GM. What a contrast he is to the incompentence that is Jim Hendry.

 

Again I ask, can we steal this guy? He's only 90 miles away.

 

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/jeffgordon/story/CA0EB6B0A5B09AAF862572E400670A43?OpenDocument

 

There are two factors giving Milwaukee some staying power: A terrific farm system, which provides potential fill-in help and trade fodder, and eager ownership.

 

Prospects and money are the mid-season fuel during the pennant race. The Brewers now have both at their disposal.

 

Should young hitters Prince Fielder (14 homers!), Rickie Weeks, Bill Hall and Hardy need help, the Brewers will have some options. The same goes for the pitching staff, which has a potential hole in the rotation (Dave Bush is 3-4 with a 5.56 earned-run average) and a late-inning reliever (Derrick Turnbow) coming off a tough week.

 

At the top of the Brewers’ help list is Nashville Sounds pitcher Yovani

Gallardo, who was just named the Pacific Coast League Pitcher of the Week for May 14-20. In his first nine starts this season, he was 6-1 with a 2.14 ERA and 76 strikeouts.

 

Last year Gallardo dominated at the Class A and Class AA levels, leading the minor leagues in strikeouts (188), finished third in ERA (1.86) and strikeouts per nine innings (10.9)

 

He beat the Cards’ Class AAA affiliate, Memphis, 3-1 on Tuesday night -–

striking out 10 hitters in the process. And here is the kicker: Gallardo is

just 21 years old!

 

Behind him on the organizational depth chart are blue-chip pitching prospects Will Inman, Jeremy Jeffress and Mark Rogers. Any of these three would have immediate trade value if Milwaukee developed an urgent need to deal.

 

Top Brewers offensive prospect Ryan Braun is also rocking and rolling. After 31 games, he was batting .330 with eight homers and 18 RBIs for Nashville. His challenge is learning to play adequately at third base, because Milwaukee is set at first base and in the outfield.

 

Baseball America ranked the Milwaukee organization as seventh-best for young talent. And the Brewers’ farm teams got off to a collective 100-67 start this season.

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Just checking into this thead to see if Hendry's been fired yet. Carry on.

 

I don't see anyone going with the upcoming sale, but hopefully the new owner cleans house when they step in.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

wha-wha-wha-whaaaa?

 

 

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

POST OF THE .... well, forever.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

 

Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

 

Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

 

Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

 

I'll have some of what's in his pipe as well, if you don't mind.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

 

Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

 

I'll have some of what's in his pipe as well, if you don't mind.

 

Sorry dude, it's cashed.

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If MacPhail stays, there's a good chance Hendry stays. And MacPhail has been a wild success as president in everything but on-the-field performance.

 

I don't think Hendry's demise is a foregone conclusion just yet.

 

 

Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

 

I'll have some of what's in his pipe as well, if you don't mind.

 

oh Raisen....

 

(inside Texas, not directed toward you)

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Bartender, I'll have whatever KyleJRM is drinking.

 

I'll have some of what's in his pipe as well, if you don't mind.

 

I am perfectly capable of saying stupid things without the influence of mind-altering chemicals.

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Just checking into this thead to see if Hendry's been fired yet. Carry on.

 

I don't see anyone going with the upcoming sale, but hopefully the new owner cleans house when they step in.

 

+8

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Just further proves that it is stupid to pay a middle reliever BIG money to do the same thing you can pay a guy 350K to do.

 

I'm sure my wife would stick a needle in my eye for free if I really wanted it done badly enough. But, instead, I think I'll pay my sister a couple grand to do it instead.

 

That makes sense, doesn't it?

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what flukey middle reliever is in the last year of his contract?

 

thank god this is probably Hendry's last year as GM. Hopefully we get an owner who brings in people who actually know what they're doing.

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