"All Cubs Know Is Who's On First"

[Derwood]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

 

at this moment is all i'm saying

 

I still don't think it's a given.

 

nothing is a given. but at this moment, with the game on the line, i'd prefer floyd at the plate to murton

[cubfan1955]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

[soapy]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

[seanimal]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

 

at this moment is all i'm saying

 

I still don't think it's a given.

 

nothing is a given. but at this moment, with the game on the line, i'd prefer floyd at the plate to murton

 

At this point, certainly. It seems counterintuitive for Big Murt to be struggling. Well, perhaps not counterintuitive, but something like that. He's shown lapses this season of 'going outside of his game' and not being the patient Murt we all know and love. That being said, Floyd has some power that Murton clearly does not have, and has even shown some patience at the plate that Matt is currently lacking as well. I really like Murton, and I think in a few years his power will come, but I'd have to agree with derwood that with the game on the line, I'll take Floyd these days.

[cubfan1955]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

[seanimal]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Cubs baseball people have "good" reasons for all the silly/stupid things they do. Murton, long term, is going to be a great hitter. Not just a good hitter, a great hitter. A big part of me wants him to get his licks in now, to get comfortable with ML-caliber pitching, however, the other part wants this team to win, NOW, and the way Floyd's been producing lately it's hard to keep him out of the lineup when he's not injured. Hopefully Matt can put together a good string of AB's if he starts against the lefties this series.

[cubfan1955]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Cubs baseball people have "good" reasons for all the silly/stupid things they do. Murton, long term, is going to be a great hitter. Not just a good hitter, a great hitter. A big part of me wants him to get his licks in now, to get comfortable with ML-caliber pitching, however, the other part wants this team to win, NOW, and the way Floyd's been producing lately it's hard to keep him out of the lineup when he's not injured. Hopefully Matt can put together a good string of AB's if he starts against the lefties this series.

I really don't get where you are seeing this.

[Exile on Waveland]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Yes, I'm sure the Cubs "baseball people" have had reasons for doing all the incredibly stupid things they've done over the years. Unfortunately, having a reason for doing something doesn't make it the correct thing to do. Surely we've all learned over the years to be skeptical of any reasons behind this organizations actions.

[seanimal]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Cubs baseball people have "good" reasons for all the silly/stupid things they do. Murton, long term, is going to be a great hitter. Not just a good hitter, a great hitter. A big part of me wants him to get his licks in now, to get comfortable with ML-caliber pitching, however, the other part wants this team to win, NOW, and the way Floyd's been producing lately it's hard to keep him out of the lineup when he's not injured. Hopefully Matt can put together a good string of AB's if he starts against the lefties this series.

I really don't get where you are seeing this.

 

Crystal ball. I dunno, it makes sense in my head, good-excellent patience at the plate plus the power he will have in a few years = great hitter? Why won't he be a great hitter?

[cubfan1955]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Yes, I'm sure the Cubs "baseball people" have had reasons for doing all the incredibly stupid things they've done over the years. Unfortunately, having a reason for doing something doesn't make it the correct thing to do. Surely we've all learned over the years to be skeptical of any reasons behind this organizations actions.

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

[jersey cubs fan]

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Because he's biased toward veteran players whenever possible. Before anybody brings up Theriot, remember he's not really taking a job from any vets. He's older than Izturis, and Cesar's medical problems means he doesn't have much of a track record for the past few years.

 

Lou has made it quite clear throughout his career that he has no problem starting a veteran, regardless of who is actually better.

[Exile on Waveland]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Yes, I'm sure the Cubs "baseball people" have had reasons for doing all the incredibly stupid things they've done over the years. Unfortunately, having a reason for doing something doesn't make it the correct thing to do. Surely we've all learned over the years to be skeptical of any reasons behind this organizations actions.

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Yeah, and in 2003 Dusty hadn't been with the Cubs before and that turned out swimmingly. He had never been tainted by the Cubs organization and made all the right decisions during his tenure. Lou has never favored veterans before and is infallible when filling out lineup cards.

 

The Cubs baseball people have changed numerous times over the past 99 years, but with extremely similar results. From the top down, this organization needs an overhaul in philosophy.

[cubfan1955]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Yes, I'm sure the Cubs "baseball people" have had reasons for doing all the incredibly stupid things they've done over the years. Unfortunately, having a reason for doing something doesn't make it the correct thing to do. Surely we've all learned over the years to be skeptical of any reasons behind this organizations actions.

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Yeah, and in 2003 Dusty hadn't been with the Cubs before and that turned out swimmingly. He had never been tainted by the Cubs organization and made all the right decisions during his tenure. Lou has never favored veterans before and is infallible when filling out lineup cards.

 

The Cubs baseball people have changed numerous times over the past 99 years, but with extremely similar results. From the top down, this organization needs an overhaul in philosophy.

If turnover in personnel doesn't change the philosophy of an organization, what will?

[cubfan1955]

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Because he's biased toward veteran players whenever possible. Before anybody brings up Theriot, remember he's not really taking a job from any vets. He's older than Izturis, and Cesar's medical problems means he doesn't have much of a track record for the past few years.

 

Lou has made it quite clear throughout his career that he has no problem starting a veteran, regardless of who is actually better.

 

And this year Murton has not been better than Jones or Floyd...or DeRosa for that matter. So it seems Lou has been starting the better player.

 

SLG/OPS

 

Murton .346/.679

 

Jones .406/.772

 

Floyd .431/.774

 

DeRosa .494/.841

[jersey cubs fan]

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Because he's biased toward veteran players whenever possible. Before anybody brings up Theriot, remember he's not really taking a job from any vets. He's older than Izturis, and Cesar's medical problems means he doesn't have much of a track record for the past few years.

 

Lou has made it quite clear throughout his career that he has no problem starting a veteran, regardless of who is actually better.

 

And this year Murton has not been better than Jones or Floyd...or DeRosa for that matter. So it seems Lou has been starting the better player.

 

SLG/OPS

 

Murton .346/.679

 

Jones .406/.772

 

Floyd .431/.774

 

DeRosa .494/.841

 

Murton hasn't been given a chance to be better. It's pointless to bring up the small samples you are referring to.

[Exile on Waveland]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

Lets completely ignore Murtons sub 700 OPS though.

 

I think he's talking beyond their small sample of ABs from this year.

 

Three year splits:

 

Floyd: 261/347/466

Murton: 303/370/462

 

Floyd's number have been trending down as he's getting old. Murton is on the rise. I still fail to see how Floyd is the sure-fire better option both long-term and short-term.

I don't think Floyd is a good long term solution but the more I see of Murton, the more I'm not sure he's the long term solution either. I think Lou right now is handling it about as well as can be expected given what Hendry has given him. He's even planning on getting Ward some outfield time in smaller ball parks. That isn't going to help Murton gain any more playing time. It seems the baseball people with the Cubs have cooled on Murton a lot this year. I assume they have areason for that.

 

Yes, I'm sure the Cubs "baseball people" have had reasons for doing all the incredibly stupid things they've done over the years. Unfortunately, having a reason for doing something doesn't make it the correct thing to do. Surely we've all learned over the years to be skeptical of any reasons behind this organizations actions.

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Yeah, and in 2003 Dusty hadn't been with the Cubs before and that turned out swimmingly. He had never been tainted by the Cubs organization and made all the right decisions during his tenure. Lou has never favored veterans before and is infallible when filling out lineup cards.

 

The Cubs baseball people have changed numerous times over the past 99 years, but with extremely similar results. From the top down, this organization needs an overhaul in philosophy.

If turnover in personnel doesn't change the philosophy of an organization, what will?

 

I'm hoping the ownership change.

 

But the Cubs theme song, with apologies to The Who, has been "Won't Get Fooled Again": "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". They keep hiring crusty old school baseball men. Predictably, they make the same mistakes that their predecessors made. The Cubs need, and have for a long time, an infusion of open minded, forward thinking baseball men. Until that happens, the philosophy will remain stagnant.

[soccer10k]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

 

An outfield of Soriano-Jones-Floyd vs RHP/Murton vs LHP gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano-Jones-Floyd.

[cubfan1955]

Well, Lou for one, hasn't been with the Cubs for years and he's the one making out the lineup card. Why isn't Lou seeing that Murton potential?

 

Because he's biased toward veteran players whenever possible. Before anybody brings up Theriot, remember he's not really taking a job from any vets. He's older than Izturis, and Cesar's medical problems means he doesn't have much of a track record for the past few years.

 

Lou has made it quite clear throughout his career that he has no problem starting a veteran, regardless of who is actually better.

 

And this year Murton has not been better than Jones or Floyd...or DeRosa for that matter. So it seems Lou has been starting the better player.

 

SLG/OPS

 

Murton .346/.679

 

Jones .406/.772

 

Floyd .431/.774

 

DeRosa .494/.841

 

Murton hasn't been given a chance to be better. It's pointless to bring up the small samples you are referring to.

I'm sorry the season is only a little more than a month old and the small sample size but that's all I've got to go on this year. I'd like to see Murton succeed but he doesn't look like the same hitter from one year ago. He's regressing instead of progressing. Maybe the league has figured him out? It's up to him to adjust but I don't see it. He only has 13 fewer AB's than Floyd. The RH hitter in a plattoon situation is always going to have fewer AB's so I think Lou has given him the opportunities and he hasn't taken advantage of them. If he ever wants to be an everyday player again he should probably start hitting sometime soon.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm sorry the season is only a little more than a month old and the small sample size but that's all I've got to go on this year. I'd like to see Murton succeed but he doesn't look like the same hitter from one year ago. He's regressing instead of progressing. Maybe the league has figured him out? It's up to him to adjust but I don't see it. He only has 13 fewer AB's than Floyd. The RH hitter in a plattoon situation is always going to have fewer AB's so I think Lou has given him the opportunities and he hasn't taken advantage of them. If he ever wants to be an everyday player again he should probably start hitting sometime soon.

 

Did you know....

 

Last year Murton hit .212/.257/.227/.484 last June, in 70 PA's(to compare, he has 57 or 60 this year, depending on if BR has updated or not). He then went on to put up an OPS north of .900 for the last 3 months(~250 PA's). The sample is not nearly enough to be decisive about his future.

[cubfan1955]

I'm sorry the season is only a little more than a month old and the small sample size but that's all I've got to go on this year. I'd like to see Murton succeed but he doesn't look like the same hitter from one year ago. He's regressing instead of progressing. Maybe the league has figured him out? It's up to him to adjust but I don't see it. He only has 13 fewer AB's than Floyd. The RH hitter in a plattoon situation is always going to have fewer AB's so I think Lou has given him the opportunities and he hasn't taken advantage of them. If he ever wants to be an everyday player again he should probably start hitting sometime soon.

 

Did you know....

 

Last year Murton hit .212/.257/.227/.484 last June, in 70 PA's(to compare, he has 57 or 60 this year, depending on if BR has updated or not). He then went on to put up an OPS north of .900 for the last 3 months(~250 PA's). The sample is not nearly enough to be decisive about his future.

I agree it's not enough to be decisive about his future. His future should be based on his performance now. I hope he turns it around to more like the numbers you pointed out. That would help the Cubs and that's what I want to see. I really have nothing against him. But I can see why Lou isn't playing him everyday. Also, I don't know what happens behind the scenes. Is he doing extra hitting work, asking for help with his hitting, or what?

[muntjack]

Before this year started, Murton was a career .300 hitter in the major leagues. At 25 years old.

 

Not only is this year's sample size too small, but his ABs have been completely sporadic. He's had no chance to develop a rhythm. The kid will be a very productive OF as soon as he's back in a lineup regularly.

 

Unfortunately for him (and us) he is right-handed. They aren't going to give him regular time even if Jones were to be dealt.

 

He should be traded, imo.... what could we get for a Zambrano/Murton/Marmol package? I can almost guarantee you Hendry is on the phone, and in June we will hear the old "We tried to get something done earlier, but no one wants to make deals in May" line.

 

BTW, count me out for the Milledge deal. He has a nice ceiling, but I put way too much energy into rooting for CPatt to do it for his clone.

[Soul]

Christ why can't we just be like other teams and have a roster that makes sense?

[cubfan1955]

Before this year started, Murton was a career .300 hitter in the major leagues. At 25 years old.

 

Not only is this year's sample size too small, but his ABs have been completely sporadic. He's had no chance to develop a rhythm. The kid will be a very productive OF as soon as he's back in a lineup regularly.

Murtons lack of power for a corner OF, not his BA, is what concerns me the most.

[soapy]

Before this year started, Murton was a career .300 hitter in the major leagues. At 25 years old.

 

Not only is this year's sample size too small, but his ABs have been completely sporadic. He's had no chance to develop a rhythm. The kid will be a very productive OF as soon as he's back in a lineup regularly.

Murtons lack of power for a corner OF, not his BA, is what concerns me the most.

Over the last three years, Murton and Floyd have an almost identical slugging percentage. 462 to 466.

[cubfan1955]

Before this year started, Murton was a career .300 hitter in the major leagues. At 25 years old.

 

Not only is this year's sample size too small, but his ABs have been completely sporadic. He's had no chance to develop a rhythm. The kid will be a very productive OF as soon as he's back in a lineup regularly.

Murtons lack of power for a corner OF, not his BA, is what concerns me the most.

Over the last three years, Murton and Floyd have an almost identical slugging percentage. 462 to 466.

And Murtons is dropping when a player of his age should be on the rise. .521 in 2005, .444 in 2006, and .327 thus far this year but then 2005 and 2007 are small sample sizes so...

 

People need to quit quoting 3 year splits with Murton. In 2005 he was only in 51 games and only 23 this year so far, His 3 year splits are more like 1.5 year splits.