Theriot needs to start every day

[DiamondMind]

In 2006, Theriot recorded (only) 134 AB's - in which he scored 34 runs.

This is a percentage of 25.3%. That means every fourth time Ryan even stepped foot in the batters box, he came around to score.

 

So far this year, in 56 AB's, Theriot has recorded 10 runs for a percentage of 18%.

 

(Even in 13 2005 AB's, 3 runs)

 

So in all his major league time - Ryan scores 23% of the time he even comes to the plate.

 

Am I the only one that finds that stat incredibly encouraging? And more then enough of a reason to find a spot for the kid to play?

[killthegoat06]

In 2006, Theriot recorded (only) 134 AB's - in which he scored 34 runs.

This is a percentage of 25.3%. That means every fourth time Ryan even stepped foot in the batters box, he came around to score.

 

So far this year, in 56 AB's, Theriot has recorded 10 runs for a percentage of 18%.

 

(Even in 13 2005 AB's, 3 runs)

 

So in all his major league time - Ryan scores 23% of the time he even comes to the plate.

 

Am I the only one that finds that stat incredibly encouraging? And more then enough of a reason to find a spot for the kid to play?

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

[DiamondMind]

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

 

Sigh. I know. Thanks for letting me know there's other parts of this website.

 

My point is that Theriot's run production has not been discussed as much as defensive liability. The fact remains this guy may be our biggest run producer outside of the obvious DLee or aRam.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

[ctcf]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

[DiamondMind]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

 

Yes. I know. Thanks for letting me know something else I've read 20 times.

 

How about discussing how a 390K player is the best run producer on a 100M ball club?

[DiamondMind]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

[CubColtPacer]

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

 

Sigh. I know. Thanks for letting me know there's other parts of this website.

 

My point is that Theriot's run production has not been discussed as much as defensive liability. The fact remains this guy may be our biggest run producer outside of the obvious DLee or aRam.

 

His runs scored only tell you that he gets on a lot, and has been in the 1 or 2 spot every day he's played (with the biggest RBI threats right behind him). Plus he has been used as a pinch runner several times, which don't give him an at-bat but sometimes a run scored.

 

Theriot probably should have actually scored more runs then he has-he hasn't been good on the basepaths so far.

[DiamondMind]

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

 

Sigh. I know. Thanks for letting me know there's other parts of this website.

 

My point is that Theriot's run production has not been discussed as much as defensive liability. The fact remains this guy may be our biggest run producer outside of the obvious DLee or aRam.

 

His runs scored only tell you that he gets on a lot, and has been in the 1 or 2 spot every day he's played (with the biggest RBI threats right behind him). Plus he has been used as a pinch runner several times, which don't give him an at-bat but sometimes a run scored.

 

Theriot probably should have actually scored more runs then he has-he hasn't been good on the basepaths so far.

 

 

I just think its ridiculous that a 390K player is outproducing half the team. It just cant be ignored, and I don't think its a fluke either.

 

We sign Soriano with the intention to play CF, he isn't. We sign DeRosa with the intention to play 2B, he shouldn't be.

 

Where's the faith in our system?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

 

Yes. I know. Thanks for letting me know something else I've read 20 times.

 

How about discussing how a 390K player is the best run producer on a 100M ball club?

 

Your point was that he should be starting. Other threads have said he WILL be starting.

[DiamondMind]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

 

Yes. I know. Thanks for letting me know something else I've read 20 times.

 

How about discussing how a 390K player is the best run producer on a 100M ball club?

 

Your point was that he should be starting. Other threads have said he WILL be starting.

 

Fair enough. Maybe my point should have been he should have been starting in 2005, and handed the job in the offseason instead of comitting to DeRosa. Better?

[CubColtPacer]

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

 

Sigh. I know. Thanks for letting me know there's other parts of this website.

 

My point is that Theriot's run production has not been discussed as much as defensive liability. The fact remains this guy may be our biggest run producer outside of the obvious DLee or aRam.

 

His runs scored only tell you that he gets on a lot, and has been in the 1 or 2 spot every day he's played (with the biggest RBI threats right behind him). Plus he has been used as a pinch runner several times, which don't give him an at-bat but sometimes a run scored.

 

Theriot probably should have actually scored more runs then he has-he hasn't been good on the basepaths so far.

 

 

I just think its ridiculous that a 390K player is outproducing half the team. It just cant be ignored, and I don't think its a fluke either.

 

We sign Soriano with the intention to play CF, he isn't. We sign DeRosa with the intention to play 2B, he shouldn't be.

 

Where's the faith in our system?

 

We signed Soriano with the intention of playing one of the corners-him being a CF didn't happen until January.

 

We signed DeRosa to play 2B-he's been great there, a decent bit better than Theriot has been starting the season.

 

I don't understand the concern.

[Yeti]

ibl?

[killthegoat06]

 

If you read all of the other discussions about Theriot, you'd see that the majority of members on this forum, if not everyone, agree that Theriot should be the everday starting SS.

 

Sigh. I know. Thanks for letting me know there's other parts of this website.

 

My point is that Theriot's run production has not been discussed as much as defensive liability. The fact remains this guy may be our biggest run producer outside of the obvious DLee or aRam.

 

His runs scored only tell you that he gets on a lot, and has been in the 1 or 2 spot every day he's played (with the biggest RBI threats right behind him). Plus he has been used as a pinch runner several times, which don't give him an at-bat but sometimes a run scored.

 

Theriot probably should have actually scored more runs then he has-he hasn't been good on the basepaths so far.

 

 

I just think its ridiculous that a 390K player is outproducing half the team. It just cant be ignored, and I don't think its a fluke either.

 

We sign Soriano with the intention to play CF, he isn't. We sign DeRosa with the intention to play 2B, he shouldn't be.

 

Where's the faith in our system?

 

I disagree. I think Derosa has been playing very well.

[UBlink]

Maybe if we didn't have DeRosa Theriot could play 2B and SS and get twice as many AB's.

[Mizzou]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

Really? He said that? For how long?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Plus I believe at least one of the threads has the quote from Lou saying that he will be starting at SS.

Really? He said that? For how long?

 

This was posted in the why can't Theriot play SS thread:

 

Suntimes

 

''We're not scoring many runs, and I need something that can hopefully jump-start us a little bit, so we're trying this out,'' Piniella said. ''The kid can swing the bat and he's got some energy, and I like the way he plays the game. The problem is, where do you put him? Well, he came up as a shortstop, so we'll play him at shortstop and see what he can do.''

 

''He did exactly what we wanted,'' said Piniella, who said Theriot will be back at short this weekend in St. Louis. ''That's what we were looking for.''

[Ivy Walls]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

 

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

[B]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

 

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

Pagan isn't even on the Cubs.

[abuck1220]

pagan sucks defensively (not to mention he sucks offensively). he should not be included in any plans for the cubs' present or future.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

 

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

I think Murton in RF makes for a stronger line-up than Floyd.

 

Pagan isn't on the team and shouldn't be. Ever! A pinch hitting catcher is a waste. If he could hit worth a crap, he would be starting as a catcher.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

Defensive replacements aren't necessary in every single game. If you can afford it, it doesn't hurt, but doing things like removing Barrett in the 8th inning of every game is the definition of insanity.

[BDWeav71]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

 

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

I think Murton in RF makes for a stronger line-up than Floyd.

 

Pagan isn't on the team and shouldn't be. Ever! A pinch hitting catcher is a waste. If he could hit worth a crap, he would be starting as a catcher.

 

Agreed, on all parts.

 

We all know Jones will be traded somewhere inbetween 10 seconds after i post this, and July 31st. The situation Floyd has caused is one all of us were concerned about when we first signed him. It was a great move IF he was used primarily as a pinch hitter, and that hasn't happened so far. We need Murton's ability to get on base in our lineup, because as it was in years past, this team simply doesnt get on base to save their lives. The feast or famine will continue as long as we continue to struggle to get people on base.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Couldn't this have gone in the other Theriot SS thread?

 

This has nothing to do with whether he should play SS specifically.

 

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

W-w-w-w-w-what???

[BDWeav71]

The Cubs strongest lineup has Theriot at SS and Pie in CF and Floyd in RF

 

defensively the Cubs strongest defensive lineup has Cedeno at SS, and Pagan in RF with Pie still in CF (and Blanco behind the plate)

 

This tells me that the Cubs need to get rid of Izturis, Jones and find a PH-C so they can insert Blanco in later innings.

 

Defensive replacements aren't necessary in every single game. If you can afford it, it doesn't hurt, but doing things like removing Barrett in the 8th inning of every game is the definition of insanity.

 

 

This may be off topic, but is anyone else a little puzzled about how Lou has handled our bench in several of our closer games this season? In both of our extra innings games, it seemed that Lou burned through our bench a little too fast, leaving nobody to pinch hit (besides marquis) in crucial spots later on. I understand that Soriano was out and our bench was a little thin, but having no one on your bench in two different spots was interesting to me.