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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

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I despise the Heat. Sure I hate the Cardinals more, but I don't really care about baseball right now.
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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

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I despise the Heat. Sure I hate the Cardinals more, but I don't really care about baseball right now.

 

Just because of the Bulls?

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I despise the Heat. Sure I hate the Cardinals more, but I don't really care about baseball right now.

 

Just because of the Bulls?

No, just because of the Cubs.

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Here's something amazing Shaq's complaining about the ref's. Here's a newsflash for you Shaq you really commit about 20 fouls a game that are never called. The ref's in game 2 will let him do whatever he wants because he's the biggest crybaby in the game. I really can't stand O'neal.
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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

 

The calls Wade gets are beyond anything Michael got. I think he mentioned watching the NBA because last Finals, Wade got a foul call after hitting a fadeaway jumper and falling down literally untouched.

 

It's almost reached a new level with him.

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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

 

The calls Wade gets are beyond anything Michael got. I think he mentioned watching the NBA because last Finals, Wade got a foul call after hitting a fadeaway jumper and falling down literally untouched.

 

It's almost reached a new level with him.

 

The calls Wade gets are bad, but they are nothing like Jordan's, or even Shaq's calls for most of his career for example. Those 2 have been the worst in the last 20 years.

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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

 

The calls Wade gets are beyond anything Michael got. I think he mentioned watching the NBA because last Finals, Wade got a foul call after hitting a fadeaway jumper and falling down literally untouched.

 

It's almost reached a new level with him.

 

The calls Wade gets are bad, but they are nothing like Jordan's, or even Shaq's calls for most of his career for example. Those 2 have been the worst in the last 20 years.

 

I'll try to find those Youtube videos of the phantom foul calls, that he got in the Finals against Dallas last year, a little later. Some of them are laugh out loud pathetic.

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What's that stat for the record of teams that win game one in an NBA playoff series?

I believe it's teams that win game one win the series 75% of the time.

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Game 2 will be show on CSNC, as well as TNT. That bumps the Cubs game from CSNC to CSNC+ and the White Sox game from CSNC+ to CSNC++, which is the Total Living Network.
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even though the Cubs game will be the only day worth paying attention (Rich Hill) I think i'm just going to watch the Bulls and have the box score up on the computer.
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I despise the Heat. Sure I hate the Cardinals more, but I don't really care about baseball right now.

 

Just because of the Bulls?

No, just because of the Cubs.

 

I'm unable to hate the Cubs right now the same way I did last year. I'm sure that will be easier as time goes on and they don't improve.

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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

 

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

 

The calls Wade gets are beyond anything Michael got. I think he mentioned watching the NBA because last Finals, Wade got a foul call after hitting a fadeaway jumper and falling down literally untouched.

 

It's almost reached a new level with him.

 

The calls Wade gets are bad, but they are nothing like Jordan's, or even Shaq's calls for most of his career for example. Those 2 have been the worst in the last 20 years.

 

I'll try to find those Youtube videos of the phantom foul calls, that he got in the Finals against Dallas last year, a little later. Some of them are laugh out loud pathetic.

 

So you don't like him for something he does not even control. It's not his fault the refs give him calls. You should hate the refs....not Wade. What is he supposed to do? Tell the refs not to call fouls on the other team?

 

Do you like Pujols?

 

I don't have a problem with him. I surely wouldn't say I hated him because the umpires give him a smaller strike zone.

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I hate the Heat possibly more than I hate the Cardinals. It has gotten to an obsession.

 

I hate Posey, Wade, and Payton with a passion. But I don't hate them more than the Cardinals. They are definitely the team I hate the most in the NBA though.

 

I don't watch the NBA, but why do you not like Wade?

 

The main reason is because if you breath on him, it can be called a foul.

 

 

 

Somebody should actually watch the NBA before coming up with a ridiculous question, and within one Heat game, that question would be answered.

 

Wade's a classy guy, blah blah blah, but the Bulls are going to make him work for everything he gets this series. This is NOT the matchup he wanted.

 

Okay, I don't watch the NBA on a regular basis. I think the NBA sucks, but I wasn't going to say that in this thread since it wasn't relevant. I have watched games from time to time. Personally I don't mind the Heat or Dwayne Wade. Does he get calls? Yes, but so did Michael Jordan. I suppose you didn't care that Jordan got those calls though because you were a Bulls fan.

 

The calls Wade gets are beyond anything Michael got. I think he mentioned watching the NBA because last Finals, Wade got a foul call after hitting a fadeaway jumper and falling down literally untouched.

 

It's almost reached a new level with him.

 

The calls Wade gets are bad, but they are nothing like Jordan's, or even Shaq's calls for most of his career for example. Those 2 have been the worst in the last 20 years.

 

I'll try to find those Youtube videos of the phantom foul calls, that he got in the Finals against Dallas last year, a little later. Some of them are laugh out loud pathetic.

 

So you don't like him for something he does not even control. It's not his fault the refs give him calls. You should hate the refs....not Wade. What is he supposed to do? Tell the refs not to call fouls on the other team?

 

Do you like Pujols?

 

I don't have a problem with him. I surely wouldn't say I hated him because the umpires give him a smaller strike zone.

 

Yep, pretty much.

 

That and how the media was grooming him as "just as good as MJ" last year in the Finals. Made me sick.

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Do you like Pujols?

I don't have a problem with him. I surely wouldn't say I hated him because the umpires give him a smaller strike zone.

How irritatingly magnanimous of you. Keep on liking the best player on rival teams, and leave us haters alone.

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even though the Cubs game will be the only day worth paying attention (Rich Hill) I think i'm just going to watch the Bulls and have the box score up on the computer.

 

If the Bulls are to win, they'll have to fight through the officials as well as the Heat.

 

With all the whining coming from Miami and the national press, you can bet your bottom dollar the refs are going to sell out wholesale and just give Wade/Shaq every imaginable call.

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even though the Cubs game will be the only day worth paying attention (Rich Hill) I think i'm just going to watch the Bulls and have the box score up on the computer.

 

If the Bulls are to win, they'll have to fight through the officials as well as the Heat.

 

With all the whining coming from Miami and the national press, you can bet your bottom dollar the refs are going to sell out wholesale and just give Wade/Shaq every imaginable call.

 

they didn't call the first game that way

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even though the Cubs game will be the only day worth paying attention (Rich Hill) I think i'm just going to watch the Bulls and have the box score up on the computer.

 

If the Bulls are to win, they'll have to fight through the officials as well as the Heat.

 

With all the whining coming from Miami and the national press, you can bet your bottom dollar the refs are going to sell out wholesale and just give Wade/Shaq every imaginable call.

 

they didn't call the first game that way

 

Correct, but they just got an earful from everyone from the Heat to the national press. They're going to cave in.

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even though the Cubs game will be the only day worth paying attention (Rich Hill) I think i'm just going to watch the Bulls and have the box score up on the computer.

 

If the Bulls are to win, they'll have to fight through the officials as well as the Heat.

 

With all the whining coming from Miami and the national press, you can bet your bottom dollar the refs are going to sell out wholesale and just give Wade/Shaq every imaginable call.

 

they didn't call the first game that way

 

What's more likley to happen is during games 3 and 4, you'll see borderline calls go Miami's way.

 

Poor officials are more influenced by fans than good ones are, so pay attention to the crews that work the Miami games.

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John Hollinger[/url]"]It's playoff season, and that means it's whining season. If you lost a close game, rest assured that it's because of the refs and not your own failures.

 

The Pistons have the worst reputation for this, but of late perhaps nobody has become more insufferable than Shaquille O'Neal.

 

Look, I'm a Shaq fan. I think he's been unfairly jobbed out of multiple MVPs because writers always are looking for a David to beat Goliath, and on his good days he's one of the game's most entertaining spokesmen.

 

But just once, could he lose a playoff game without complaining about the refs or opponents flopping? Shaq's completely predictable whine after Chicago's Game 1 victory was notable as the postseason's first (though unfortunately not it's last) postgame pity-fest.

 

"My intention was to come out and be myself, until Eddie Rush derailed me," O'Neal said. "It's just unfortunate that people fall for that."

 

If you're keeping score, the Eddie Rush he referred too is the same veteran official who looked at Eddie Jones and motioned for him to get up after the Miami player's failed flop attempt in the third quarter. Sounds like a real sucker.

 

And while we're checking facts, here's another interesting one for you, Shaq: Two of your fouls came when you tried to flop. Remember those?

 

And just so we're on the same page: If you turn your elbow into Ben Wallace's face, he's going to fall down. That's not flopping, that's physics.

 

"He says that about every team, so I wouldn't put too much into that," Bulls coach Scott Skiles said about Shaq's complaints, and he's absolutely right. Remember, O'Neal was spouting the same excuses last year when the Bulls won Games 3 and 4.

 

The fact is, O'Neal's declining conditioning is what's causing the foul trouble. He averaged a foul every eight minutes this season; if he keeps that up in the playoffs, foul trouble at some point in a game will be the rule, not the exception. Which means we should get ready for more whining.

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I really really really fear that the calls will go the Heat's way this next game.

 

We're going to need a extraordinary effort out of these guys.

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