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We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

An 83 win team winning the WS is the definition of a fluke.

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Really? How often does a inferior team win the WS. Last one I can think of before last year was 88 Dodgers and than 85 Royals.

 

So, basically, if we aren't the runaway best team we should just wrap it up and play kids?

 

Playing Murton is not wrapping it up. He's as good as Floyd and Jones, at least, and should get better. None of the Cubs OF is an ideal OF, they need all of them to produce if they hope to succeed.

 

I would say if we are CLEARLY not a top ten team then I would say there is no reason to play a past prime player over a player who is major league ready.

 

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

 

No, but back to my point of how many times does a inferior team win a WS? Maybe 2 other times in my lifetime. If you throw in the 69 Mets that would be 3 other times in my 40+ years. I would rather take my chances with a young player who has shown plenty of ability to improve than a chance that this team will win the WS. I would even go as far as saying that playing Floyd over Murton would only mean one or two wins anyway.

 

this isn't exactly about the 'game.' it's taking up a lot of space here...

 

Ok I am done

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

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We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

Here's an assignment for you before I leave

 

1. Go check the Cardinals record in 2006

2. Check the records for the teams in the playoffs for the last 10 years and see how many times they would have made the playoffs.

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We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

An 83 win team winning the WS is the definition of a fluke.

 

Yep. They were by far the worst WS team that I have seen in my 11 years or so of watching baseball.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

Their offense was much, much better than the Cardinals. They won more games than any other NL team. They were the best last year.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

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Here's an assignment for you before I leave

 

1. Go check the Cardinals record in 2006

2. Check the records for the teams in the playoffs for the last 10 years and see how many times they would have made the playoffs.

 

Context context context. Each year is its own.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

 

no way! :shock:

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We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

No they weren't they had a terrible pitching staff and it led to their downfall.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

 

I don't subscribe to that school of thought. If you win, you're the best. No whining.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

 

Yeah, but it's not often that the 10th best team in the league wins it either.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

 

no way! :shock:

 

I know. It's a shocker, isn't it?

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Here's an assignment for you before I leave

 

1. Go check the Cardinals record in 2006

2. Check the records for the teams in the playoffs for the last 10 years and see how many times they would have made the playoffs.

 

Context context context. Each year is its own.

 

And a year that is a radical departure from the norm is what we call a fluke.

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How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

 

No they weren't. Their pitching was bad. Worse than St. Louis for sure.

 

You do know that the best team doesn't always win the World Series, right?

 

 

No but very rarely does a team that isnt one of the 5 best not win it.

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